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Sergey Karjakin vs Hikaru Nakamura
Tal Memorial (2010), Moscow RUS, rd 3, Nov-07
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1/2-1/2


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Nov-07-10  Kinghunt: <Ulhumbrus>: Thanks, but we're missing a rank there.
Nov-07-10  Strongest Force: Karjakin is as stubborn as a pit bull terrier
Nov-07-10  Ulhumbrus: latest position:

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  mig55: Draw, just like I said:-)
Nov-07-10  Kinghunt: Eljanov-Kramnik 0-1
Nov-07-10  turbo231: According to the official site it's a draw.
Premium Chessgames Member Since the official site announced a draw we're going to close down this game and insert the moves later today when the become available. See you all tomorrow.
Nov-07-10  malthrope: <Ulhumbrus> - the last video image I saw of the Karjakin-Naka game was this one:

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Looked to me like it was Sergey's move (he's was working in his chair getting ready to dig in and concentrate). :)

Nov-07-10  Ulhumbrus: <malthrope:> In that position if Black does nothing, White can play Re2-a2-a7-e7 winning the e6 pawn.
Nov-07-10  malthrope: <Ulhumbrus: <malthrope:> In that position if Black does nothing, White can play Re2-a2-a7-e7 winning the e6 pawn.>

Well, maybe I need new glasses. ;) I just saw it for a split second and that's what I thought I saw. :) We'll have the complete games score soon enough and then we can stop all the boring guessing games! ~lol~

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  whiteshark: <
[Event "Tal Memorial"]
[Site "0:39:33-0:09:33"]
[Date "2010.11.07"]
[EventDate "2010.11.05"]
[Round "3"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[White "Karjakin"]
[Black "Nakamura"]
[ECO "C67"]
[WhiteElo "2760"]
[BlackElo "2741"]
[PlyCount "2"]

1.g5+ Kf7 2.Rc7+ Kf8 3.Rh7 Rb5 4.h5 gxh5 5.Rxh5 Rf5 6.Rh6 Kf7 7.Rh7+ Ke8 8.Ra7 Kf8 9.Ra1 Kg7 10.Re1 Kg6 11.Ra1 Kf7 12.Ra7+ Ke8 1/2-1/2>


Nov-07-10  malthrope: Ah, a very nice defense! I'll let <whiteshark> do the honors now that a complete game score is available. :)

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The final position after 70... Rf6 Draw

So, I did see the position correctly with Sergey to move. At least that's something. :)

- Mal

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  Eyal: Looks like Nakamura's "novelty" (strictly speaking, it's been played in a game between two 2500s last year) 12...Be6 was just an accident:

<Absolutely ridiculous game. Forgetting 12...Nh4 is inexcusable.> (

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  Eyal: ...Though I suppose the chances of "forgetting" moves like that are much higher when you play an opening that is so unsuited to your style.
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  Marmot PFL: The Berlin's reputation as a solid drawing line is well deserved.
Nov-07-10  BradMajors: "GMHikaru

Absolutely ridiculous game. Forgetting 12...Nh4 is inexcuseable. Alas, I somehow drew and now face Kramnik with white tomorrow! Cheers!"

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  Marmot PFL: Who knows? The position after 12...Nh4 is not so easy either after 13 Nd4, and probably Karjakin has studied it well. He may have been better off playing as he did.
Nov-07-10  rapidcitychess: Naka, enjoy your torture tomorrow.


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  whiteshark: It will surely separate the wheat from the chaff.
Nov-07-10  rapidcitychess: Men from the boys. Oh wait, we already know who the boy is.
Nov-07-10  Davolni: I was thinking Naka with black would be in trouble agains somewhat "hot" Karjakin with whites. I didnt follow the game, but the draw result should make him glad IMO.

Good luck tomorrow!

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  Eyal: Shipov on this game:

<Nakamura is becoming a typical elite chess player ready to play any rot, even the dullest of positions, ready to crawl across the board like a cockroach from corner to corner just as long as he can resist. And today he resisted, showing excellent defensive technique. It seems Karjakin took with the wrong piece on move 18. He had more chances after 18. Nxe4!? In the game the American deftly brought play to a rook ending and exploited the infamous tendencies of which Tarrasch wrote.> (

Nov-07-10  malthrope: <Davolni: I was thinking Naka with black would be in trouble against somewhat "hot" Karjakin with whites. I didnt follow the game, but the draw result should make him glad IMO. [...]>

Hey <Davolni> good point! ;) I too would have had a smirky "Cheshire cat" grin on my face having held this ending. ;) White was always in the position to 'press' and Naka held it anyway. At least he made it look easy now that we have the complete game score at our disposal to peruse (note: for those of you not witnessing the 'live' broadcast we begin having massive transmission difficulties in all games and specifically after move 28 in this game).

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The position after 28... Ke7 where the live transmission broke down. :(

If it were not for the 'live' video feed today [ ] we would have not caught quick glimpses of the resulting positions occurring later in the game. =)

<whiteshark: It will surely separate the wheat from the chaff.>

I'm thinking maybe Cherrios for breakfast tomorrow!? Or, perhaps even better yet some bite sized Shredded Wheat! ~lol~ :P

The quick 'edit' add-on:

Just caught this on the Twitter. :) Our resident 'Russian to English' translator <Polarmis> (btw: who goes by several handles and he's <mishanp> when he writes on his own website) published this fine account by GM Sergey Shipov (of 'Crestbook' fame):

<"Sergey Shipov on the Tal Memorial Rd 3"> (by mishanp on November 8, 2010):

GM Sergey Shipov covers in a brief report all games from the round as well a few select pictures from the wonderful Chess Blog of Evgeny Surov. Including a viewer so you can go over the games! ;) It's a fun read and GM Shipov is always entertaining! :D

- Mal

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  whiteshark: Did Karjakin really move <1.♙e2-e4>? We're not so sure anymore...
Nov-08-10  FISCHERboy: You guys don't like Naka that much, do you?
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