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|Jun-04-12|| ||voyager39: <DanielBryant> <I think this is unworthy of GOTD status> I can bet my last penny that you're the typical computer crippled patzer who has no clue what's actually going on. |
This was a brilliant and historic game.
|Jun-09-12|| ||King.Arthur.Brazil: Comming back to Chessgames in 2012, I fill (badly) surprised for this kind of game! I really don't believe in a 17 moves game with some mis-prepared oppening trap. Tell me, where are the computers? Are they fooling me? Fistly, I don't understand that in a prepared line (homework) didn't GELFAND see the answer 12.g4 for his Bxf5? So, in his study the "best" 14...Qf6(?) lose by 17.Qf2... And didn't he see it at home before? Could he tried a little step more? Why didn't he played 17...Nc6? If lost, try something first. If 18.dxc6 Qxc6, and black has fight. But, if 18.Be2? Nd4+ treating 19...Rxe2+ followed by 20...Qxb1 and 21...Nxe2. Also, if 18.Bd3 Nb5+, now 19.Kd2, Nxd3, 20.Kxd3, Qxb1 and black has 2R x N+Q,lost but with fight... Back to the point: this "black prepared trap" is an absurd for a WCC game... He trow out his yesterday victory (point) in such a easy way, that seemd to me like a child playing. Sorry, but it is ridiculous...|
|Jun-09-12|| ||LIFE Master AJ: My web page on this game - link below.
(I have not done the video yet.)
|Jun-30-12|| ||reisanibal: I set the last position up on computer (Chessmaster 9000). Both sides were CM9000. And black went on to winning this game :S Maybe, Gelfand resigned too early. Material count is not that bad.|
|Jul-29-12|| ||kappertjes: <reisanibal> An interesting experiment indeed. Now CM9000 is not the best engine in town, but still intriguing. |
I am convinced that anyone who says that 'it is obvious' that Qf6 was not the move is just an engine junkie. I was watching the game and it was not super simple, it was not obvious. Gelfand missed it, as did the super GMs commenting. Not only are there patzers, patzers everywhere, they talk trash about the best players in world. brr...
|Aug-13-12|| ||vikram2791: I analyzed the game: After Gelfand plays something like 17...Nd7( not saving the queen) 18.Be3, Gelfand can play ...Qxb1 19.Kxb1 because 2 rooks are equal to a queen. I think Gelfand was in shock or something, because he resigned too early. Anyway, I'm glad Anand won.|
|Aug-13-12|| ||Eyal: <vikram2791: I analyzed the game: After Gelfand plays something like 17...Nd7( not saving the queen) 18.Be3, Gelfand can play ...Qxb1 19.Kxb1 because 2 rooks are equal to a queen.>|
Count the pieces again - White has an extra bishop; that's completely lost for Black (and it's 18.Bd3, not Be3). As was already noted several times here, the only way for Black to put up any kind of fight instead of resigning on the spot was 17...Nc6.
|Aug-13-12|| ||vikram2791: To eyal,
Thanks for correcting me.
|Sep-26-12|| ||LIFE Master AJ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiG8...
This is my YT video on this game ... again, it is supported by a web page, that link has already been given.
|Jan-19-13|| ||voyager39: I think this 17 move record will hold till eternity...the much hyped challenger Carlsen in any case never wins anything before time trouble around move 40.|
|Feb-02-13|| ||hchrist: Gelfand played like a patzer here. What a shame.|
|Feb-23-13|| ||talisman: Indian Game/Anti Grunfeld/Alekhine Variation...is that the same as Neo-Grunfeld?|
|Mar-26-13|| ||dagwood2005: Pretty sure this is a kind of King's Indian and not a Neo-Grunfeld|
|Apr-02-13|| ||morfishine: Inexplicable...Improvements?: no comment
What not to do? Well, Nh5 is useful in many systems/variations; but on move 7? of a hybrid-Gruenfeld?; with the Q-side still undeveloped?; against Anand? LOL
|Nov-19-13|| ||scholes: Shameful game. Gelfand deserved to be the world champion if not for this- probably his most weak game in decades. |
He just choked hard.
|Nov-20-13|| ||ThumbTack: I am late to look at this game, but as <LIFE Master AJ> has already pointed out in his analysis, after 8.Bg5, Black needs to play 8..h6, not 8..Bf6!? . 8..Bf6 really deserves a simple "?". And even after 8..h6, 9. Be3 Nd7, Black still has a struggle to equalize. It is also quite true that, if Black had played 17..Nc6 instead of resigning, it would have only postponed the inevitable.|
How best to play this opening after 6.Ne2 O-O 7. Nec3...? It would seem that 7..Nh5 is not the way to go.
|Feb-13-14|| ||talwnbe4: Critical line seems to be 17..Nc6 18. dxc6 Qxc6 19. Bd3 Re5 20. Rf1 Qc7 (defends f7) 21. Nd5 Rxd5 22. cxd5 c4 23. Be2 Re8 24. hxg6 hxg6 25. h4 Re5 26. h5 gxh5 2.0 (Fruit 2.2)|
|Feb-13-14|| ||weisyschwarz: That is one nasty trap. Anand can be very sly, and that enough should have been a red flag for Gelfand that this is not what it seems.|
|Feb-22-14|| ||cplyakap: I don't understand Gelfand's resign decision.17..Nc6 saves queen and Gelfand's position isn't bad.|
|Apr-01-14|| ||OldTimr: Maybe Gelfand was hoping for 16. Kc1 then just played one more move before resigning.|
|Aug-27-14|| ||Ke2: Great opening. The Pawn Pyramid attack.|
|Nov-18-14|| ||freeman8201: Fisher would be rolling in his grave...this is outright trivial...|
|Mar-11-15|| ||RookFile: What a very strange game. Black plays the king's indian and strives to exchange off the fianchettoed king bishop. Then he gets his queen trapped.|
|Aug-23-17|| ||cormier: And he opens the center until the opponent evacuated the king. 11.exf5 White clears the center. [In the case of 11.Bd3, one had to reckon with 11 ... f4 and Nb8-d7-e5.] 11 ... Bxf5 [Shah 11 ... Qh4 + did not look, after all, after 12.Qf2 the exchange of queens is bad for Black, since then it will not be possible to take an elephant on f5 because of g2-g4. What if (It is necessary to look and brisk 12.Kd1) 12 ... Qg5 with the threat of an invasion on c1, it's easy 13.Nd2] [I also studied 11 ... Qh4 + 12.Qf2 Qe7 + and White does not repeat the moves by Qf2-e2, Qe7-h4 +, but simply evolve without fear of hurling: 13.Be2 Nf4 14.O-O, etc. Overweight.] [It was also studied 11 ... Re8 + !? 12.Kf2 Bxf5, and it is extremely difficult to bring the calculations to a clear valuation. Here is the first estimate: 13.g4 Qh4 + 14.Kg1 Re1! 15.Qf2 Qe7 16.gxf5 (16.Ne4 !?) 16 ... Qg5 + 17.Qg2 Qc1 and ... white unsweetened! So, I was wrong, they need to play more carefully. But this was left out.] 12.g4 Well done, Vichy! Still dared to start a war. He picked up the glove, picked up the gun ... By the way in the game, White is unlikely to win the figure, because Black has a reserve for b1. More importantly, since they push out the active light figures of black. The hours are: 1.28 - 1.18. Boris can not choose the path in any way. There is something to think about. The trick is that on Qd8-h4 + White will no longer close the queen, and Ke1-d1 will respond, and in the case of Kh5-g3, the insidious bunch of Qd2-e1 will follow! With a winning figure. It seems that Gelfand sowed the wind and reaps a storm ... 12 ... Re8 + Also check. [So, I considered here the main option 12 ... Qh4 + 13.Kd1! (Much worse 13.Qf2 Re8 + 14.Be2 Qg5!) 13 ... Bxb1 14.Rxb1 Ng7 15.Kc2 Nd7 16.Qe1 Qxe1 (Not so successful 16 ... Qd8 17.Qg3!) 17.Rxe1 f5 - this ending does not look bad for Black. Of course, they do not have complete equality, because the horse g7 is limited, and the pawn d6 is weak. But life went on.] 13.Kd1 And the same reaction of whites! After exchanging a black elephant for b1, the white king will comfortably be placed on c2. [In the case of 13.Be2, Black played 13 ... Qh4 + 14.Kd1 Bxb1 15.Rxb1 Nf6! , Leaving the queen in the active position.] 13 ... Bxb1 Otherwise, the figure can not be saved. 14.Rxb1 Well, it's going to have to be a daring horse of blacks to return home, not saltingo. The applicant sits, thinks, grieves ... Black's activity in the center of success has not brought, they have worse. And the champion is probably in a good mood now. In principle, Anand always held on to the board much more restrained than Gelfand - he is less temperamental, his mask of dispassion on his face looks more convincing. Although, on the eve of clearly visible feelings Vichy. Too bitter and painful was the defeat ... 14 ... Qf6 What-what? Boris continues to gamble under the motto "No step back!". As if he had to recoup this, of course,
and there would be no other chance. So harsh and provocative, but now I did not expect any adventure from him either. Black's queen is going to eat the boat h1, and White is almost obligated to sacrifice it, because defending the pawn with an elephant f3 they will allow the horse h5 to go out to f4. [Peaceful continuations 14 ... Nf6 15.Kc2 Na6 16.Rd1] [Or 14 ... Ng7 15.h4 gave White, maybe not a big, but a persistent advantage.] 15.gxh5 Only in this way. 15 ... Qxf3 + 16.Kc2 Qxh1 Will the glutton return from the trek? <17.Qf2> That's it. The queen of black is hobbled. Threatened by Bf1-d3 with capture. There is no doubt that Anand saw this possibility while playing g2-g4. And Gelfand, apparently, must now play 17 ... Nc6, saving the queen at the cost of the figure. Of course, this will not be a sweet position, but it will be possible to play a little more ... BLACK DEDICATED! It was Gelfand's disaster. I imagine in what shock his fans are now ... Looking closely, I realized that the surrender of the party was not premature. Option 17 ... Nc6 18.dxc6 Qxc6 19.Bg2 Qc8 [19 ... Qd7 20.Nd5!] 20.Rf1 Qf5 + 21.Qxf5 gxf5 22.Rxf5 is completely hopeless for Black.|
|May-04-18|| ||Penguincw: Video analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-5....|
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