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Predrag Nikolic vs Nils Grandelius
Tata Steel Group B (2013), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 8, Jan-20
Neo-Grünfeld Defense: General (D70)  ·  1-0
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Jun-20-14
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  Phony Benoni: The sort of position where you see players pointing their fingers and waving their hands wildly, trying to keep track of what is going on.
Jun-20-14
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: If it's possible for chess pieces to feel scared of the players moving them, these pieces did.
Jun-20-14
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  Sneaky: The Dude's take on this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw36...
Jun-20-14  ThumbTack: I do not understand why so often I find the easy ones difficult and the difficult ones easy. In any case, 14.Qxe5 seemed fairly obvious to me. Of course, it doesn't end the game immediately, but it does give a clear winning advantage.
Jun-20-14
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  Sneaky: Whenever your queen and your opponent's queen are simultaneously en prise, you have to think "What can I gobble?" In that sense the answer here was obvious. I certainly didn't foresee that White would be an entire piece to the good when the smoke clears. However it was clear that it would be Black trying to cling on to equality, not White.
Jun-20-14  gofer: It seems that black has simply miscalculated the exchange.

<14 Qxe5 ...>

14 ... Qxg5
15 Qxe8+ Rxe8
16 Nxg5 Nxg5
17 Nxd6 cxd6
18 h4

White is an exchange and a pawn up...

14 ... Bxe5
15 Bxe7 ...

White is an piece up...

14 ... f6?
15 Qxe7 Rxe7
16 Nxd6 Nxg5
17 Nxg5 ...

White is an piece up...

14 ... Qxe5
15 Nfxe5 Bxe5
16 Bxe4 ...

White is an piece up...

14 ... Qf8?
15 Qd4 ...

White is an piece up...

~~~

Yep...

Jun-20-14  dfcx: white wins a piece with 14. Qxe5

14... Bxe5 15. Bxe7 Rxe7 16 Nfxe5
14... Qxe5 15. Nfxe5 Bxe5 16. Bxe4
(if black plays 15...Nxg5 instead, 16. Nxd7 ).

Black can't avoid loss of material

Jun-20-14
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  agb2002: The material is identical.

Black threatens 14... Nxg5 and 14... Nxc3.

White can tackle them with 14.Qxe5, defending the bishop on g5, taking a piece and adding the threat 15.Qxe7:

A) 14... Bxe5 15.Bxe7 Bxb2 (15... Rxe7 16.Ncxe5 wins a piece) 16.Nxb2 Rxe7 17.Rfd1 + - [N vs P].

B) 14... Qxe5 15.Nfxe5

B.1) 15... Nxg5 16.Nxd7

B.1.a) 16... Rxe2 17.Rfe1 + - [N vs P] (17... Rae8 18.Nf6+).

B.1.b) 16... Kg7 17.f4 followed by Nde5, keeping the extra knight.

B.2) 15... Bxe5 16.Bxe4 Bxb2 17.Nxb2 Rxe4 18.Rfe1 + - [N vs P].

B.3) 15... Rxe5 16.Nxe5 is even worse than the previous lines.

C) 14... Nxg5 15.Qxg5 (15.Qxe7 Nxf3+) wins a piece.

D) 14... Qxg5 15.Qxg5 Nxg5 16.Nxg5 wins a piece.

E) 14... Qf8 15.Qd4 wins a piece.

Jun-20-14  Cheapo by the Dozen: Most White attempts to win material fail to one or both of two interpolations: ... Nxf3+ or, after ... Nxc3, ... Nxe2+ 14 Qxe5 neatly takes both off the table. It also captures a piece, so Black has to recapture in response. (He lacks the numbers to capture immediately on g5 instead.) But neither recapture works.
Jun-20-14  Nick46: Chance nil after white's dragnet.
Jun-20-14  morfishine: <14.Qxe5> and Black must exchange accurately to avoid losing material

*****

Jun-20-14  morfishine: Its funny, I had White winning a piece, but after seeing the game, I thought material was even but White had a winning position, then noticed White wins a piece after all :)
Jun-20-14  VanPoolPlayer: At the end, black has a passed pawn on C that could tie up some white material for a few moves. It also seems that black could have attacked rank 2 with the rooks and tried for a stalemate.
Jun-20-14  sombreronegro: I saw 14. Q X e5 and thought it would one of the better moves.

It was either 14. Q X e5 or 14 Nc4 x e5 or Nf3 X e5. Taking the queens off with 14 B X e7 two bishops in an open position. 14. Qe3 leaves the knight hanging.. 14 Nf3 X e5 unless I found a good reason I think the N on c4 was the looser one so it was between 14. Q X e5 or 14 Nc4 x e5. I think I would have needed 1/2 an hour between the two.

Jun-20-14
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  kevin86: Can white be hanged for stealing a horse? lol
Jun-20-14
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  Honza Cervenka: Black's attempt to unpin the Knight ran into quite obvious desperado combo winning a piece. I saw 14.Qxe5 as a right solution within a millisecond here. Well, it took me a while to calculate that it wins a piece in all lines but in a blitz game I would have played it instantly by instinct. Bit too easy for Friday, I guess. But instructive for sure.
Jun-20-14
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  radtop: So, did white win, or black lose?
Jun-20-14  GoldenKnight: Saw this one all the way to move 16 and knew that White was a piece up for a pawn and in good shape.
Jun-20-14
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  sfm: An exercise in counting. Simple, but difficult.
Jun-20-14  JimNorCal: Like so many others, Qe5 was the first move I considered, though working out the lines was not so easy for me.

The other noteworthy thing is that the Black position is visually imposing. His pieces are more developed and just look more centralized.

Jun-20-14
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  Zhbugnoimt: at the end here white is a full piece up, as 19...Rxe2 loses to 20.Nc5
Jun-20-14
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  thegoodanarchist: About right for Thursday - Friday range.
Jun-20-14  BOSTER: Playing 13...Ne4
<Honza Cervenka :
Black's attemp to unpin the knight >
Nf6.
White won
a piece.
But sometimes <unpin> combo very successful like this pos.,where black played Nxd5.


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Jun-20-14  King.Arthur.Brazil: I didn't work hard, but my intuition after 5 minutes analysing said Qxe5. I didn't face all the combinations involved, sure. I only think that after changes the black Ne4 will be on the air waiting for the Bg2 embrace... lgs I wasn't wrong. Chess sometimes is feeling!
Jun-20-14  gars: Way out of my league. I did not see a thing.
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