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|Mar-08-15|| ||Granny O Doul: No fork for Chow?|
|Nov-16-16|| ||indomega: qxd4 nf3+ forks queen/king|
|Dec-29-16|| ||Phony Benoni: By the way, I would appreciate confirmation that this game was actually played in the US Open. Chow was definitely there -- and took home the Class B prize -- but in the absence of a crosstable I do not know for sure that Karklins participated, nor that they played.|
|Dec-30-16|| ||zanzibar: I would assume the xtab would be in this pamphlet, correct?|
(have the wrong year earlier - the right year is 1979)
|Dec-30-16|| ||Phony Benoni: <zanzibar> That's Chicago <1973>. This game is ostensibly from Chicago <19779>. |
Actually, it appears I don't have a copy of 1973 xtab either. "Chess Life & Review didn't publish one, and the only material I have are the tournament bulletins. which do no have one. The pamphlet might well contain one, but is probably all but impossible to obtain.
Does Di Felice have any kind of xtab, or just a short list of prizewinners and players?
|Dec-30-16|| ||Granny O Doul: I believe this event was at the Palmer House in town (assuming it was the US Open), and not an airport hotel. Helps a bit after you've lost the only game you'll play that day in ten minutes.|
Zanzibar, that link shows an issue of Chess Life whose cover served to advertise what is after all the USCF's own tournament. Even were it the report issue, though, they seldom ran the full crosstable of several-hundred-player events. Then there is the question of whose $6.90 it would be worth to confirm whether this game was played in that Open.
|Dec-30-16|| ||zanzibar: Sorry <Phony>. I caught that mistake, and deleted the post, substituting the old above (i.e. with the correct year, 1979).|
De Felice also lists the 1979 source I think, let me dig it out and report back.
<Granny> generally, it wouldn't be worth it unless one could actually confirm it was something worth the money asked.
The advantage of ye olde fashioned Used Book Shoppe.
|Dec-30-16|| ||zanzibar: Unfortunately, not available as a preview, and I don't have a hardcopy of Di Felice's:|
<Chess Competitions, 1971-2010: An Annotated International Bibliography>
(There is some mention, I think. Could someone at least dig that out?)
|Dec-30-16|| ||zanzibar: I could only readily find this:
<Gheorghiu won the 1979 U.S. Open chess championship, played in August in Chicago, and Bisguier was runner-up.>
|Dec-30-16|| ||zanzibar: Oh, it's surely but a pittance, but here's the ref:|
(the quoted material shows up in the general google search listing)
|Dec-30-16|| ||Phony Benoni: <Granny O'Doul> Yes, Chicago 1979 was held at the Palmer House. One of the less pleasant memories was the Beatlemania convention right next to the tournament room. We had to pass it to reach the convention to reach the playing hall, and we issued badges to wear so the bouncers would let us pass. There was much unpleasantness.|
<Zanzibar> I used to have a run of Chess Life CL&R from 1960 to 1999, but sold it off before I began work on the US Open in earnest.
The CDs for Chess Life / Chess Life & Review / Chess Review cove runtil 1975, except for 1973, which was of monstrous size. After 1976 I don't recall seeing crosstable; the events were generally 400-500 players, and there wasn't room. Besides, who really cared?
I wouldn't be surprised if the pamphlet had a 1973 xtab, but I'm all but positive the 1979 CL&R did not have one.
|Dec-30-16|| ||Phony Benoni: <Zanzibar> I have the 1979 bulletins, which contain about 125 games and a complete list of prize winners. Plus about three pages of errata.|
|Dec-30-16|| ||zanzibar: <Besides, who really cared?>|
Well, somebody had to care enough to update the ratings of all the players involved.
I suppose, 500 players (actually 4 GM's, 4 Senior Masters, 25 masters, and 58 experts in a field of 563 players) would take what? 25 pages for the swiss xtab? Not that much for an official tournament book/pamphlet to do.
OK, moving on.... maybe you've already seen this report, or maybe not?
Has a few games, and some grainy photos.
|Dec-30-16|| ||Phony Benoni: <zanzibar> Thanks; that will help! I have been using the ICB archive available hre:|
But that doesn't include the September 1979 issue.
The games appear to be lifted directly from the tournament bulletin, without revision: I've already found some typos repeat4ed. However, I can still use it to check my reading of the print bulletin by enlarging the font size.
|Jun-03-17|| ||FSR: <Phony Benoni> I submitted this game. I know about it because I was playing at the board next to it.|
|Jun-03-17|| ||morfishine: Karklins had a remarkable if not stunning chess career being that chess was never more than a hobby (per his bio)|
|Jun-03-17|| ||perfessor: <FSR> I was there too - I'm glad someone had a shorter game than my 12 move loss to GM Soltis!|
|Jun-03-17|| ||Phony Benoni: <FSR> Thanks. So you were playing in the US Open as well? I wasn't aware of that! Since I don't have a crosstable from Chicago 1979, I'm grateful for any information I can find. Anything else you could supply would be much appreciated.|
|Jun-03-17|| ||FSR: <Phony Benoni> Sorry, I don't have anything else - not even my own scoresheets from that event. I just remembered the Chow game because it was so short and I witnessed it.|
|Jun-03-17|| ||Phony Benoni: Well, at least you relieved my doubts about this game, and I can add one more player to the list Thanks again.|
|Jun-03-17|| ||FSR: <Phony Benoni> I do remember the results of a few of my games. I won as White against William Harris, Jr., won as Black against Clint Vose, drew as White against Jon Silverman on my birthday (August 6), and lost as Black against Daniel E Shapiro. I won a game as White against someone from Wisconsin that began 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.Nc3 e6 5.Nxd5 exd5 6.d4 cxd4? 7.Qxd4 Nc6 8.Qxd5 d6 9.Bf4 Be6. His name was very similar to Martin Olesen, but that can't be the guy.|
My friend Kenneth Mohr lost a heartbreaker as Black against Paul Brandts. (Ken played a move like ...Qe2+, hanging his queen to Kxe2, intending to follow up with a royal knight fork (maybe ...Nd4+) that would leave him a piece up, but then realized to his horror that Brandts' queen was pinning Ken's knight against his king.) I see that you already found Ken's bizarre win in K Mohr vs F La Rota, 1979. I believe that my friend Mario Spinosa also played, but I am not 100% certain of that.
|Jun-03-17|| ||FSR: <Phony Benoni> Oh, and sometime before Round 6 I lost a game as Black against Sergey Kudrin. In Round 7 or thereabouts there was a short draw between Arthur Bisguier (White) and Florin Gheorghiu (Black) in which they played the drawing line later seen in
Sosonko vs Ljubojevic, 1986.|
|Jun-04-17|| ||Phony Benoni: <FSR> This helps more than you might think. One of my subsidiary goals withte US Open project is to compile a list of players, so every bit of information from the years without crosstables helps.|
Since Kudring had White in round 5, he probably had White in round 1 (opponent rated around 1600) and round 3 (opponent rated around 2000). The latest rating supplement I have (1975) puts you at 1625, so I would guess you were an Expect by 1979 and played him round 3. Besides, I think it more likely ou would have remembered if a game was in round 1.
The game with Silverman would have been in round 8, and help clear up another problem. He had a game from the Open that was attributed to Julius Silverman, so I'm having that corrected.
I don't have the game between Bisguier and Gheorghiu, but was able to dedue it was from round 9.
|Jun-04-17|| ||FSR: <Phony Benoni> Glad to be of help. Yes, I'm sure I didn't play Kudrin in Round 1. I think I won my first two games, so it's plausible that I would have played him in Round 3.|
|Dec-06-17|| ||FSR: <perfessor> How did you lose in 12 moves?|
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