Magnus Carlsen vs Viswanathan Anand (2014) Something Vishy This Way Comes

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Magnus Carlsen vs Viswanathan Anand
"Something Vishy This Way Comes" (game of the day Jun-24-2014)
World Rapid Championship (2014) (rapid), Dubai UAE, rd 12, Jun-18
Slav Defense: Exchange Variation (D10) · 0-1

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Given 3 times; par: 87 [what's this?]

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Jun-18-14		kia0708: cool end game, Mr Anand

Jun-18-14		cplyakap: Anand's first victory against Carlsen since 2011.

Jun-18-14		gregory2188: Hope this is a preview of what we're going to see from Anand in the WCC.

Jun-18-14		Rascal Nikov: No matter what the age is, tiger will always remain tiger.

Jun-18-14		vkk: Anand is not respecting carslen's authority and its paying off.

Jun-18-14		beenthere240: Oh yes, move 34. Black to play should be a Sunday puzzle! What a genius Anand was have seen that 34...Rb6!!! wins a piece. The spectators must have thrown gold on the board. Joking aside, I suspect that Carlsen didn't miss the pin but was planning to play 35 Nc5, but missed the fact that black doesn't have to take the bishop, but wins with 35...a3 since the Knight cuts off the bishop.

Jun-18-14		RookFile: This one was drawn: Lasker vs Ed. Lasker, 1924 I'll have to think about the difference between the two.

Jun-18-14		Check It Out: <RookFile> That's uncanny, thanks for linking that game.

Jun-18-14		honeypot: Anand at 44 is still formidable and the latest prodigy has learnt another valuable lesson. Twnety years ago Anand would have wiped the tables with these wannabes.

Jun-18-14		latvalatvian: Anand will win the world title back this year.

Jun-18-14		Pulo y Gata: Great game. This is the kind of squeeze that Carlsen usually administers. It's good for Anand, in the light of their rematch, to be reminded that he can serve as well.

Jun-18-14		centralfiles: <RookFile: This one was drawn: Lasker vs Ed. Lasker, 1924 > Thanks Rookfile! It would seem with an a-pawn the Rook can keep the king out, but with a b-pawn the King goes behind the pawn

Jun-19-14		fgh: <Pulo y Gata: Great game. This is the kind of squeeze that Carlsen usually administers. It's good for Anand, in the light of their rematch, to be reminded that he can serve as well.> Yes, a "one move squeeze", as Carlsen had the advantage before blundering by playing Nxe6. You fail at objectivity. <Twnety years ago Anand would have wiped the tables with these wannabes.> About twenty [sic] years ago, Anand was getting beaten by Kasparov in a match. The fact that you described Carlsen, the World Champion, as a "wannabe", proves that you are here to troll, jackass.

Jun-19-14		Pulo y Gata: fgh, take it easy, man. I took a quick look at the game and posted my comment. My quick assesment was off, well, tough luck then. But even if Magnus did not play the blunder Nxe6, I don't think his advantage, if any, is enough to win. In fact, I maintain that Anand was the one putting the pressure on in the midgame before Magnus was forced to give up his Rook. Not a pleasant position to play for White at all.

Jun-19-14		perfidious: <honeypot: Anand at 44 is still formidable and the latest prodigy has learnt another valuable lesson.> <vkk: Anand is not respecting (Carlsen's) authority and its (sic) paying off.> The horsebleep-o-meter has gone clear off the charts in the aftermath of one fortuitous result in a rapid game, what with the jingoism exhibited in this thread.

Jun-19-14		Absentee: Honeypot, the indian tolengoy?

Jun-19-14		perfidious: <Absentee> Sure hope not--one such animal is quite enough, thank you very much.

Jun-19-14		SimonWebbsTiger: @<rookfile> have fun playing about with the Nalimov tables available here! http://chessok.com/?page_id=361 The position after 51...Ke5 is mate in 22. click for larger view It goes without saying that the chessok link is a useful, free Tool to assist understanding more technical endgames.

Jun-19-14		JohnBoy: <perf: horsebleep-o-meter has gone clear off the charts> - still in all, Anand played a damned good game. Plenty of bite left in those teeth.

Jun-19-14		notyetagm: Carlsen vs Anand, 2014 NOTE: Carlsen did not miss the obvious SKEWER 34 Ng5xe6?? Rb2-b6!. What he planned was 35 Ne6-c5? Rb6xBd6 36 Nc5xa4 with a good endgame for White. What he did miss was that his intended 35 Ne6-c5? BLOCKS THE GUARD LINE of the White d6-bishop to the a3-sq in front of the Black a4-passer so that Black then wins instantly by not playing 35 ... Rb6xBd6? but rather PUSHING THE PASSED PAWN 35 ... a4-a3! which can then no longer be stopped.

Jun-19-14		perfidious: <JohnBoy> Here's to a class act who is nothing but a credit to the game.

Jun-19-14		Petrosianic: <notyetagm> <Carlsen did not miss the obvious SKEWER 34 Ng5xe6?? Rb2-b6!. What he planned was 35 Ne6-c5? Rb6xBd6 36 Nc5xa4 with a good endgame for White.> I doubt it. Why should he be in such a hurry to deliberately give up a piece? In your line, he loses the g pawn too. So not such a good endgame at all. The simple 34. Bc5 leaves the e pawn still hanging, and Black's a pawn going nowhere. It sounds like you're defending him on the charge of blundering by accusing him of panicking for no reason. Unless he said in the press conference that this is what he overlooked (and you don't claim that), I'm still going to think he overlooked the skewer. He was probably in a hurry and didn't notice that Black's last move made the skewer possible (it wasn't when the Rook was on a2).

Jun-19-14		JohnBoy: Sorry, <Petrosianic>. My money is on <notyet>'s explanation. It is clear that white MUST attend to black's a pawn, and this will cost his own g pawn. Probably his e pawn as well. In your line (35.Bc5) black is left with two pawns and the winning task is much easier. In MC's chosen line white has 3-1 pawns for the X. But the a pawn is so much of a threat that white cannot manage.

Jun-19-14		Petrosianic: He stated it as a fact, not an explanation. If we can reasonably disagree about it, that pretty much tosses the "fact" claim out the window, unless there's some other reason he didn't mention. And I don't see your point. After Bc5, the a pawn is permanently guarded. Black has 2 pawns after the e pawn falls, true, but he can give the Bishop up for one at any time. What's the rush?

Jun-19-14		JohnBoy: <Petro> - yeah... I went back and reread <not yet>'s post. You are right. Maybe he has more info to support his claim, but it is not offered. Anyhow, with respect to losing pawns, after 34.Bc5 Re6 does white guard the e pawn? Black marches his king up and snags the g pawn (I don't believe white can't stop this) and then it's 2-2 pawn-wise, with the white e pawn read to fall. I don't see how white's job is easier in your scenario.

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