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Sergey Karjakin vs Wesley So
World Championship Candidates (2018), Berlin GER, rd 7, Mar-18
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Normal. Ragozin Variation (E51)  ·  1-0


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Mar-18-18  Gregor Fenrir: <35...Ke8> is a losing move. After <35...Rc7> Black is okay.
Mar-18-18  Nina Myers: <(+1 -3 =3)> So what's the what?
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  tpstar: RN vs RN is a tricky endgame, similar to RRN vs RRN and QRN vs QRN. After 26 ... Re8 I figured this game was a sure draw. So had just pinned the Nc6 with 34 ... Rc8, then 35. Kb5 breaks the pin while threatening 36. Rf2 pinning and winning the Nf3:

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So had to play 35 ... Rc7 (35 ... Kg8?? 36. Ne7+) giving the Rook escape squares while meeting 36. Rf2 with 36 ... Rf7. Unfortunately he blundered with 35 ... Ke8?! and after 36. Kb6 his Rook was about to get trapped. A tragic outcome, which may have involved time pressure.

Go Wesley!

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  rogge: At last!

Go Sergey!

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  chancho: Wesley's chances of winning this tournament are embedded between slim and none.
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  HeMateMe: geez, look at the position after 26. 4 pawns lined up against 4 pawns. Why did black have to make the pawn advancements that weakened his position? It seemed he could just button up and wait it out.
Mar-18-18  Marmot PFL: Didn't like black's play starting with 7...cd4 which left white with bishop pair and better development. Maybe So didn't either as he started using lots of time.
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  Richard Taylor: The Stockfish on board engine thinks that after 28. Nxe5 Black is lost.

All was not well in the state of Denmark.

Karjakin is very good player. He should be World Champion if they had a proper tournament format for the World Champs which is getting more and more like a lottery...But such is life and I suppose that is irrelevant now in any case.

So lost track of the ending in this case. He played a little so so...

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  Richard Taylor: I think this might be a better way to deal with the Bd2 nonsense:

7...Bxc3 8. Bxc3 Ne4 9. Qc2 Nxc3 10. Qxc3 cxd4 11. exd4 Nc6 12. cxd5 Qxd5 (my quick dabble not a computer variation)

...I have faced the early Bd2 after 3...Bb4. I presume it is sound but seems a bit unambitious for White. But it is probably logical.

Mar-18-18  chuparinov: a masterpiece yesterday,piece less today..

consistency is what seperate Carlsen from these pretenders..

Mar-18-18  chuparinov: separate
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  offramp: separates.
Mar-19-18  tigreton: Instructive example of domination. White pieces are much more active, and Karjakin puts constant pressure on Black ones, which will never find proper squares. 26 ... Re8 is too pasive, 26 ... Rb6 keeping the rook active would have saved the day.
Mar-19-18  tigreton: I think this kind of endgames are clear for Russian players, they learn how to play them from school.
Mar-19-18  Kapmigs: and to think the Wesley fans claimed before the game that Karjakin is Wesley's customer
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  tpstar: Speaking for the pro-Wesley contingent, that is not true at all.

I remember the real <kapmigz> just like I remember the real <epistle> and don't you forget that.

This was a well-played game except for one move.

Go Wesley.

Mar-19-18  Kapmigs: Suki = customer

<Mar-16-18 KlingonBorgTatar: Next game is vs Karjakin. Suki nya Ito.>


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Black to move

1) =0.00 (38 ply) 35...Rc7 36.Kb6 Rd7 37.Ra8+ Kf7 38.Nd8+ Ke7 39.Nc6+ Kf7

2) +0.39 (37 ply) 35...h5 36.gxh5 Rc7 37.Ra8+ Kf7 38.Ra3 Nxh2 39.Rg3 Rd7 40.Rg2 Nf3 41.Rf2 Rd3 42.Kc4 Re3 43.Nd4 Rxe5 44.Rxf3+ Kg8 45.Rh3 Kh7 46.Nf3 Rd5 47.Nh2 g6 48.Ng4 Ra5 49.Kb4 Rf5 50.hxg6+ Kxg6 51.Ne3 Rf7 52.Rg3+ Kf6 53.Ng4+ Ke7 54.Ne5 Rf5 55.Re3 Kd6 56.Nc4+ Ke7 57.Nb6 Kf6 58.Kc4 e5 59.Nd5+ Ke6 60.Nc7+ Kd6 61.Nb5+ Kc6 62.Nc3

3) +1.02 (37 ply) 35...Ne1 36.Kb6 Nd3 37.Ra5 Nf4 38.Kb7 Re8 39.Kc7 g5 40.Kd7 h6 41.h4 Nd5 42.h5 Nb6+ 43.Kc7 Nd5+ 44.Kd6 Ne3 45.Kd7 Nc4 46.Ra1 Ne3 47.Ra3 Nd5 48.Ra7 Nb6+ 49.Kc7 Nd5+ 50.Kd6 Nf4 51.Kd7 Ng2 52.Ra5 Ne3 53.Ra4 Nd5 54.Ra3 Nb6+ 55.Kc7 Nd5+ 56.Kd6 Nb6 57.Ra1 Nc4+ 58.Kc7 Ne3 59.Kd7 Nd5 60.Kd6

6.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 9 v010218

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  whiteshark: Now trying variation <35.Kb5 Rc7 36.Kb6 Rd7 37.Ra8+ Kf7>:

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1) =0.00 (46 ply) 38.Nd8+ Ke7 39.Nc6+ Kf7 40.h4 Nxh4 41.Rc8 Nf3 42.Nd8+ Kg6 43.Nxe6 Rd1 44.Nf8+ Kf7 45.e6+ Ke7 46.Nxh7 Kxe6 47.Rc7 Rb1+ 48.Ka6 Ne5 49.Rxg7 Rb3 50.Rg5 Rb4 51.Rg7 Rxg4 52.Nf8+ Kf6 53.Rxg4

2) =0.00 (45 ply) 38.h3 Rd5 39.Ra7+ Kf8 40.Ra8+ Kf7

3) =0.00 (45 ply) 38.h4 Nxh4 39.Rc8 Nf3 40.Nd8+ Kg6 41.Nxe6 Rd1 42.Nf8+ Kf7 43.e6+ Ke7 44.Nxh7 Kxe6 45.Rc7 Rb1+ 46.Ka6 Ne5 47.Rxg7 Rb3 48.Rg5 Rb4 49.Rg7 Rxg4 50.Nf8+ Kf6 51.Rxg4

6.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 9 v010218

Mar-21-18  Saniyat24: Very good middle game by Karjakin...!
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  tpstar: Ang kanyang tunay na mga tagahanga ay may lubos na paggalang at paghanga para sa kanyang mga kalaban. Sa pagsasalita para sa kanila muli, humihingi ako ng paumanhin kung sinuman ang gumamit ng nakakatakot na termino, gayunpaman ito ay mas malamang na ito ay isang maling pagkukunwari ng isang dating supporter upang maging sanhi ng problema. Gusto mo bang paniwalaan na ang ilang mga tao ay sobrang masigla at lubhang sabik na makabalik sa kanyang lupon na ginagamit nila ang dating pagkakakilanlan ng isang patay na tao para sa pansin.

Tatlong taon na ang lumipas, oras na upang makuha ito. Mga Kapatid.

Go Wesley.

Mar-21-18  Ulhumbrus: concedes the bishop pair. It may be that Karjakin has one strength in common with Carlsen to at least some extent: He is able to make count the bishop pair if he has it.

14...Be8 hopes possibly to play for a position where a bishop and knight will be stronger than the bishop pair. Perhaps the idea is to obstruct White's queen's bishop by placing his pawns on f6 and e5. An alternative is to remove White's bishop pair by 14...Bxc3+ first.

If so, something else happens instead. White gives up his bishop pair but ends up with a rook on the seventh rank.

One suspects that So loses only because he misplays the ending somewhere and that Karjakin's advantage is not sufficient to win.

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  wordfunph: beautiful game!


Aug-23-19  epistle: <Kapmigs: Suki = customer <Mar-16-18 KlingonBorgTatar: Next game is vs Karjakin. Suki nya Ito.>


I agree with the laugh

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