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Raymond Keene
Keene 
Photograph copyright (c) 2003 Bo Zaunders
courtesy of keeneonchess.com.
 

Number of games in database: 1,909
Years covered: 1960 to 2012
Last FIDE rating: 2455
Highest rating achieved in database: 2510
Overall record: +1018 -180 =665 (72.5%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 46 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Reti System (148) 
    A04 A05 A06
 King's Indian (119) 
    E62 E80 E63 E69 E94
 English (73) 
    A15 A13 A14 A16 A12
 Nimzo Indian (72) 
    E30 E41 E42 E49 E26
 Grunfeld (53) 
    D91 D85 D79 D74 D76
 Queen's Gambit Declined (49) 
    D31 D35 D37 D30 D06
With the Black pieces:
 Robatsch (121) 
    B06
 Sicilian (113) 
    B32 B22 B25 B30 B78
 Pirc (99) 
    B09 B08 B07
 King's Indian (69) 
    E83 E73 E94 E62 E92
 French Defense (58) 
    C18 C05 C00 C02 C09
 Queen's Pawn Game (56) 
    A45 A40 A41 A50 D02
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Keene vs Miles, 1976 1-0
   S J Hutchings vs Keene, 1973 0-1
   Keene vs V Kovacevic, 1973 1-0
   Keene vs Robatsch, 1971 1-0
   Keene vs E Fielder, 1964 1-0
   Keene vs Briant, 1988 1-0
   M Basman vs Keene, 1981 0-1
   Keene vs S Kerr, 1979 1-0
   E Jimenez Zerquera vs Keene, 1974 0-1
   Keene vs J N Sugden, 1961 1-0

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Strasbourg Open (1973)
   British Championship (1971)
   Lugano Olympiad qual-1 (1968)
   Slater Young Masters (1968)
   5th Lloyds Bank Masters Open (1981)
   Capablanca Memorial-B (1974)
   Alicante (1977)
   Sydney IM (1979)
   Hanover (1976)
   Hastings 1968/69 (1968)
   Esbjerg (1981)
   Commonwealth Championship (1983)
   Stevenson Memorial (1965)
   British Championship (1982)
   Reykjavik (1976)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   0ZeR0's collected games volume 46 by 0ZeR0
   0ZeR0's collected games volume 45 by 0ZeR0
   50 K Players of Yesteryear by fredthebear
   ANNOTATED HUMAN GAMES by rpn4
   ANNOTATED+ GAMES by Patca63
   ANNOTATED HUMAN GAMES by gambitfan
   ANNOTATED+ GAMES by kafkafan
   ANNOTATED HUMAN GAMES by Rickdudester
   franskfranz's 1. Nf3 by franskfranz

GAMES ANNOTATED BY KEENE: [what is this?]
   Leko vs Kramnik, 2004
   Leko vs Kramnik, 2004
   Leko vs Kramnik, 2004
   Kramnik vs Leko, 2004
   Topalov vs Kramnik, 2006
   >> 406 GAMES ANNOTATED BY KEENE

RECENT GAMES:
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   Keene vs A Pleasants (Aug-??-12) 0-1, exhibition

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RAYMOND KEENE
(born Jan-29-1948, 77 years old) United Kingdom

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Raymond Denis Keene won the British Chess Championship in 1971, and was the first player from England to earn a Grandmaster norm, in 1974. In 1976 he became the second Englishman (following Tony Miles) to be awarded the Grandmaster title, and he was the second British chess player to beat an incumbent World Chess Champion (following Jonathan Penrose's defeat of Mikhail Tal in 1960). He represented England in eight Chess Olympiads.

Keene retired from competitive play in 1986 at the age of thirty-eight, and is now better known as a chess organiser, columnist and author. He was involved in organising the 1986, 1993 and 2000 World Chess Championships; and the 1997, 1998 and 1999 Mind Sports Olympiads; all held in London. Keene was the chess correspondent of The Times from 1985 to November 2019, and is a prolific author, having written over 100 books on chess. He was appointed an Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) for services to chess in 1985.

Keene is a controversial figure in the chess world. He has been accused of plagiarism, and his business dealings and the quality of his chess books, columns and articles have also been criticised.

Chess career
Keene won the London and British Under 18 Championships (shared with Brian Denman) in 1964, and represented England at the 1965 and 1967 World Junior Chess Championships, held in Barcelona and Jerusalem respectively. At the latter event he took the silver medal, finishing behind Julio Kaplan. He was educated at Dulwich College and Trinity College, Cambridge (where he studied modern languages and graduated with an MA). Keene wrote his first chess book whilst studying at Cambridge, and won the British Chess Championship at Blackpool 1971. As a result, he was awarded the International Master title in 1972, the first English player to achieve this since Jonathan Penrose in 1961. In 1974, Keene married Annette, the sister of International Master David S. Goodman. They have one son, Alexander, born in 1991.

Keene was the second British player to meet the necessary requirements to become a Grandmaster. He was pipped to the post by a few months by Tony Miles, the first British Grandmaster in 1976. Both he and Miles won financial prizes for this feat.

Miles and Keene were at the forefront of the English chess explosion of the next 20 years, and they were followed by other British grandmasters such as Michael Stean, John Nunn, Jon Speelman and Jonathan Mestel.

Keene represented England for nearly two decades in international team events, beginning with the 1966 Chess Olympiad in Havana at age 18. He followed with the next seven straight Olympiads: Lugano 1968, Siegen 1970, Skopje 1972, Nice 1974, Haifa 1976, Buenos Aires 1978, and La Valletta 1980. His individual performances at Lugano and Haifa merited bronze medals (although individual medals were not, in fact, awarded at Haifa) and he was undefeated in three Olympiads – these two and Siegen. His later performances, though, were less impressive, with just two draws from four games at Buenos Aires and losses in both his games at La Valletta.

He represented England four times at the Students' Olympiad (Örebro 1966, Harrachov 1967, Ybbs 1968 and Dresden 1969) and four times at the European Team Championships (Bath 1973, Moscow 1977, Skara 1980 and Plovdiv 1983). At Skara he won both a bronze medal with the team and the individual gold medal for the best score on his board.

Keene won the 1971 British championship and shared second place on three occasions, in 1968, 1970 and 1972. His tournament victories include Hastings Challengers 1966, Slater Challenge Southend 1968, Johannesburg 1973, Woolacombe 1973, Capablanca Memorial (Master Group) 1974, Alicante 1977, Sydney 1979, Dortmund 1980, Barcelona 1980, Lloyds Bank Masters 1981, Adelaide 1983 and La Valletta 1985.

Playing style
Keene's playing style tended toward the strategically original and positional. Strongly influenced by Aron Nimzowitsch and Richard Réti, he accordingly preferred hypermodern openings such as the Modern Defence, Nimzo-Indian Defence and King's Indian Defence.

Chess-related work

Organiser
Keene worked as a chess event organiser. He was the originator and organiser of the annual Staunton memorial chess tournaments, one of the few regular events for masters held in London. The Oxford Companion comments: "By a combination of ability and shrewdness, Keene has attracted considerable sponsorship and has proved himself capable of efficient and rapid organisation of chess events".p196

Keene brought Victor Korchnoi and Garry Kasparov together for their 1983 Candidates' semi-final match in London as part of the 1984 World Championship cycle; the semi-final match between Vasily Smyslov and Zoltán Ribli was also played at the same site. He organised the 1984 Russia (USSR) vs Rest of the World match in London within two weeks, enabling the event to go ahead on time after the previous plans had fallen through, described by John Nunn as "a magnificent organisational achievement at such short notice."

Keene has also been involved in organising several World Championship finals matches. He arranged for the first half of the World Chess Championship 1986 return match between Kasparov and Karpov in London. The match, however, made a loss for the British Chess Federation (BCF) and, for reasons never clarified, he resigned from his position in the BCF shortly afterwards. He organised the 1993 PCA World Championship match between Kasparov and Nigel Short in London, for which he was one of the official commentators along with Grandmasters Jonathan Speelman and Daniel King. He was the instrumental force behind 'Brain Games', which organized the World Championship match in 2000 between Kasparov and Vladimir Kramnik. Following the match, however, he retained the trophy in lieu of money he believed he was owed by the collapse of Brain Games: Kramnik did not receive it until 2008. Brain Games later collapsed in controversial circumstances.

Columnist
Keene became the chess columnist of The Spectator in March 1977. His column was terminated in September 2019, when he was replaced by Luke McShane. Following the retirement of Harry Golombek, Keene was appointed the chess correspondent of The Times in 1985. In November 2019 he was replaced by David Howell. In December 1996 he became the chess columnist of the Sunday Times. In August 2017 he was replaced by David Howell.

Television personality
Keene has appeared on television. He covered the world championships of 1981, 1985, 1986, 1990, 1993, and 1995 for BBC 2, CHANNEL 4, and Thames TV. In the "Duels of the Mind" series which aired on the UK ITV network, Keene, along with South African author and civil rights campaigner Donald Woods, discussed and analysed what Keene regarded as the twelve best chess games ever played.

Magazine editor
From 1978 to 1982, Keene was the editor of Modern Chess Theory, a magazine on openings which included contributions from the Soviet world champions Mikhail Botvinnik, Vasily Smyslov, and Mikhail Tal.

Author
Keene claims to be "the author of 140 books on chess". He was the Chess Advisor to Batsford. His early books such as Howard Staunton (1975, with R. N. Coles) often dealt with players with styles similar to his own. Aron Nimzowitsch: a Reappraisal (1974) is much admired and was revised and translated into Russian in 1986,1 with an algebraic edition published in English in 1999. In 1989, he and Nathan Divinsky wrote Warriors of the Mind, an attempt to determine the 64 best chess players of all time. The statistical methods used have not met with wide approval, but the player biographies and games were regarded by one book as providing a good overviewbut also incurred criticism for inaccuracy. Much of Keene's later work has attracted criticism for sloppiness, plagiarism and the habit of copying passages, including errors, from one book to another.

Controversies
Allegations of plagiarism
Keene has on several occasions been accused of plagiarism. In 1993 John Donaldson accused Keene of committing plagiarism in The Complete Book of Gambits (Batsford, 1992). Donaldson wrote "Just how blatant was the plagiarism? Virtually every word and variation in the four and a half pages devoted to Lisitsin's Gambit in Keene's book was stolen." After Keene refused to pay Donaldson a requested $200 for the use of his material, Keene's American publisher Henry Holt and Company ended up paying Donaldson $3,000.

In 2008, Keene was accused of plagiarising a column by Edward Winter for a piece published in The Spectator and subsequently on the website Chessville and on page 129 of his book The Official Biography of Tony Buzan. More than a third of the article was taken directly from Winter's column.

In 2013, Winter reflected on plagiarism in chess: "a particularly sordid corner of the chess world which will never be eradicated without maximum public exposure". He went on: "The latest instance is the discovery by Justin Horton that material from the first volume of Kasparov's My Great Predecessors series has been misappropriated by Raymond Keene in The Spectator."

Private Eye describes the plagiarism as involving "substantial amounts of text lifted from chess books, mainly Kasparov's but also other authors". One case involves Keene's notes to a game between Garry Kasparov and Anatoly Karpov, which he annotated for The Times on 8 December 2011 and The Spectator on 5 January 2013.

These alleged plagiarisms, which Edward Winter calls "eye-popping" are catalogued at "a convenient 'plagiarism index' which is being kept updated".

Tony Miles
In 1985, Keene received £1,178 from the BCF for being Tony Miles' second at the Interzonal in Tunis; however, he had not actually been Miles' second but accepted the money and shared it with Miles. Miles had initially agreed to this plan but eventually told the BCF about it in 1987. Two months later, Keene resigned his posts as BCF Publicity Director and FIDE delegate. Keene said that his resignation was for different reasons, and that he was "furious" at his treatment after organising numerous events from 1983 to 1987.

Brain Games Network
In 2000, Keene's former brother-in-law David Levy accused him of deceiving the directors of their company Mind Sports Olympiad Ltd (MSO) by setting up a rival company, Brain Games Network plc (BGN), without their knowledge and using £50,000 of MSO Ltd money to do so. Levy further alleged that Keene changed his story several times as to the purpose of the payment and the reasons why the new company had been set up. He complained that shares in the new company were held by Keene and an associate (Don Morris) but not by the company for which they had been supposed to be working, nor any of its directors other than themselves. Levy wrote:

As one would expect, our original investors were equally astounded at the news and extremely angry at Keene. They had by now invested £1.5 million (approximately $2.25 million at that time) partly or largely on the basis of their faith in Keene and myself. Now they had learned that one of their two key consultants, the one with money-raising skills, had been working to set up a rival company.

Nothing, however, was proven against Keene (who had swiftly paid an identical sum, i.e. £50,000 to MSO, making the subsequent explanation that this constituted a personal loan from himself) and his new company went on to organise the world championship match later that same year. (It was at this time that Private Eye started referring to him as "The Penguin", a nickname he had first acquired in 1966.)

Levy further criticised Keene for selling three of his own companies to BGN for £220,000 despite their being "virtually worthless". The three companies had between them "a total capital and reserves of only £2,300". At much the same time, according to Levy, BGN purchased a web site and two domain names from Chess and Bridge Limited. However, they made the purchase in two stages. The first of these stages was its sale to Giloberg Finance Limited, owned by Keene's associate Alan Lubin: the second was the immediate sale of the same items, by Giloberg, to BGN. The first sale was for approximately £60,000 (in fact $100,000) and the second was for £290,000, hence making Giloberg "an instant profit of approximately £230,000" and raising the question of why BGN should have paid a sum much greater than the original vendors considered the items were worth.

BGN collapsed in controversial circumstances. Shareholders were unhappy that sums amounting to at least £675,000 had been paid to directors in "fees and payments" despite the company swiftly becoming insolvent. Investors were also unhappy that Keene and Lubin had acquired 88% of the company "for a song" even though the remaining 12% had been sold for around £3 million.

During the course of the 2000 Braingames World Championship Keene was accused of heavy-handed behaviour in having journalist John Henderson removed from the press room with the assistance of bouncers.

Korchnoi
Viktor Korchnoi alleged that when acting as his second in the 1978 World Championship match, Keene broke his contract by writing a book about the match (which appeared three days after the match finished) having specifically signed an agreement "not to write, compile or help to write or compile any book during the course of the match". Korchnoi commented: "Mr Keene betrayed me. He violated the contract. It was clear that while Mr Keene was writing one book and then another, Mr Stean was doing his work for him."

Attempts to defend Keene were rebutted by Michael Stean's mother, who stated that she was in a position to know what was in Keene's contract since she herself had typed it. Keene, she claimed, had signed this despite having already negotiated a contract with Batsford to write a book about the match. She described "a premeditated and deliberate plan to deceive" and noted that Keene's conduct had come under suspicion during the match.

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. N Totton vs Keene 0-1381960Bromley tourneyE00 Queen's Pawn Game
2. Keene vs J N Sugden  1-0241960Match game 8B90 Sicilian, Najdorf
3. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0261960Dulwich CollegeA12 English with b3
4. H T Jones vs Keene  0-1241960Exhibition gameC55 Two Knights Defense
5. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0191960Dulwich CollegeB98 Sicilian, Najdorf
6. J N Sugden vs Keene  0-1481960MatchD22 Queen's Gambit Accepted
7. J N Sugden vs Keene 0-1341960MatchD22 Queen's Gambit Accepted
8. J N Sugden vs Keene 0-1311960MatchC16 French, Winawer
9. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0261960Match game, ClaphamA12 English with b3
10. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0281960Match game 1, ClaphamB23 Sicilian, Closed
11. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0261961MatchD47 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
12. Keene vs L Bauer  1-0271961Clapham Common CCA70 Benoni, Classical with 7.Nf3
13. S Leff vs Keene 0-1361961Clapham Common CCA20 English
14. J N Sugden vs Keene 1-0261961MatchA55 Old Indian, Main line
15. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0341961Match game 21, Dulwich CollegeA17 English
16. J Regruto vs Keene  0-1331961Clapham Common CC ChampsA47 Queen's Indian
17. T D Baldwin vs Keene  0-1351961Olympia ExhibitionC17 French, Winawer, Advance
18. G K Sandiford vs Keene 0-1271961Dulwich CollegeB00 Uncommon King's Pawn Opening
19. A Ogus vs Keene  ½-½371961School matchC18 French, Winawer
20. G K Sandiford vs Keene  0-1521961Match, game 5B16 Caro-Kann, Bronstein-Larsen Variation
21. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0351961OlympiaA67 Benoni, Taimanov Variation
22. J N Sugden vs Keene 0-1301961Match game 6, BeckenhamE40 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3
23. Keene vs J N Sugden 1-0251961Match game 6, Bognor RegisD43 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
24. Keene vs Orly 1-0101961Clapham Common CCB02 Alekhine's Defense
25. J N Sugden vs Keene 0-1291961MatchE40 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3
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Oct-18-04  square dance: <eggman> well one problem with the referee idea is that if players are determined to get draws they will just play lines that are known to be draws.
Oct-18-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  Eggman: Note, further, that if there are no SERIOUS objections to my suggestion then the whole POINTS SYSTEM stuff would be TOTALLY SUPERFLUOUS.
Oct-18-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  Eggman: <<well one problem with the referee idea is that if players are determined to get draws they will just play lines that are known to be draws>>

I've heard this kind of objection before, but making players go through so much trouble as to practically prearrange draws would very much reduce the number of draws (after all, you'd be pretty much forcing players to conspire and cheat, and surely far far fewer players would be willing to do that, let alone do so habitually), and in time the precedent thus set would, I believe, wind up almost wiping out these kinds of things. Players would get used to the idea of actually playing the game out, and such prearrangements would be unlikely to even enter their heads.

Even with so many GM draw today, the draw is not prearranged. The players don't USUALLY get together before hand to plan on a draw (though this does happen).

Oct-18-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  ray keene: <amondy>

dont get me wrong-i dont think kramnik is anywhere near fischer-except in his performance as world champion-in which case he was obviously much better than fischer who didnt play at all!!

devil games-lovely question

i will pick out three and tell you why

lasker 1914 because of his win v capa at st petersburg

fischer 1972 sui generis

kasparov 1987 because of last game in wcc v karpov

thats really a great question-thanks

Oct-18-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  ray keene: <eggman> your suggestion is pretty similar to the rule back in 1964 when you cdnt agree a draw without the arbiters permission. if he said no we tended to repeat moves-nothing he cd do about that-or shuffle aimlessly till we reached move 30.see for example a game between lawrence day and ray keene from the junior world championship jerusalem 1967.
Oct-18-04
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  Eggman: <<if he said no we tended to repeat moves-nothing he cd do about that-or shuffle aimlessly till we reached move 30.>>

I have no sympathy for the thirty-move rule, incidentally. The number of moves played is neither here nor there.

But, percentage-wise, how many professionals would be willing to embarrass themselves and the game (especially during a prestigious event like, say, Kasparov-Kasimdzhanov) by playing on for 150 moves like yourself and Mr. Day (for the background see L Day vs Keene, 1967)? And how often would a situation arise where the combatants were so mutually-benefitting from a draw like yourself and Mr. Day? Surely such situations happen, but only in a small minority of games. Surely in, say, the fourth round of Linares, you're not going to find Leko and Anand pulling such a stunt? Or am I wrong?

And is it always so easy to repeat moves, especially if the position isn't closed? Surely my suggestion would at least greatly reduce the number of draws, while reinforcing the spirit of the draw-agreement rule, and in-no-way changing the game?

Oct-18-04  templar: <eggman> you're right... it's a shame to have 16 move games on a championship level when we look at bco or mco with all their openings ending with infinity signs... these are the players that should bring new ideas to chess, not rehash old ones for the strategic purpose of a draw... personally I think we need the x number of wins system back and allow only x number of draws under the first time control per number of games... or something to that effect....
Oct-18-04  templar: <ray keene> has fide addressed how they will handle themselves after reunification it terms of discrimination as happened in Libya with Jewish players?

Has there been a decision separating classical from speed from fischerrandom?

Done right they could market the three types of chess well it seems.... take classical like Kasp/Kasim to exotic "Kingly" style like the location in UAE... take rapid to more public high profile locations to enhance public awareness take fischerrandom to detention centers in say Japan...... i had to do that...... but seriously will there be a return to the purity of classic chess or is it in the works?

Oct-18-04
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  Eggman: It seems to me that promoting more than one type of chess is self-defeating ... it creates confusion. Making chess more followable, with identifiable events and a consistent format is the way to go.
Oct-18-04  templar: one format only would need to be classical then imho... still many sports exist in multiple formats.... it's really how it's delivered/managed that makes it successful...
Oct-18-04
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  ray keene: <eggman> i have a lot of sympathy for your idea since i sugggested something similar a while back with a panel of three wise men to say yeh or nay to draws.however-we are only at the start of this debate and sometimes it cures itself. for example the experts really didnt like the capa v alekhine match of 1927-far too technical-they much preferred it when alekhine and bogoljubow slashed at each other in 1929.who knows-after this match kramnik may find his feet and become a reformed character.very many thanks for your carefully considered ideas which are a valuable contribution to the debate.
Oct-18-04
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  ray keene: <templar> i hate fischerrandom-i cant even get chess right and along comes someone to make it more difficult and forcing me to unlearn decades of hard earned opening theory. bad idea. if you want another form of chess play shogi or xiangqi-beautiful variants of chess hallowed by centuries of oriental culture.
Oct-18-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  ray keene: fide-i will now make the following predictions

1 the kasparov kasi match will take place

2 kaspy will probably win

3 the kramnik kaspy match will probably take place some time late 2005 or early 2006

4 whoever wins will not take the prague system lying down-whether its kramnik or kasparov -and i predict kramnik-that champion of the soi disant unified title will then insist on a challenge being made to him directly-he wont go back into a pool where games are played off at fast rates. whether its kramnik or kaspy that person will be in a very strong position -exactly what fide has been tryig to avoid. leko wd have been less of a problem for them but imagine-kramnik with three world title wins behind him to back up his credibility or kasparov world champ for 15 years and on top again in an amazing comeback-these guys wont kow tow to fide and go into a group to defend their title-they will insist upon the ancient aristocratic rights of the incumbent!!

Oct-18-04  templar: <ray keene> my post was regarding fide using rapid chess as tie breakers in classic chess to decide outcomes... my feeling was if they believe in rapid they should spin it off and keep it separate... not mix the two... the fischerrandom was mentioned with tongue firmly planted in cheek... apologies if it set you off...
Oct-18-04
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  ray keene: more on fide-jewish/israeli representation-at some point a jewish or israeli player with backbone and resources will take fide to court over this-in fact i heard that it already happened-if they continue to organise events where israeli/jewish players are discouraged they are heading for a disaster!!
Oct-18-04
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  Chessical: <Raykeene> I thought that FIDE had arrived there several years ago, (and has had the time for return visits).
Oct-18-04  Gypsy: < tamar: It is incredible how much thought you put into this. > Thanks Tamar. <...As a player though, it would be distracting to know that a draw as White could put me behind. I think it might skew the game itself.> Indeed, the point system is designed to knock players out of their current drawing comfort zone. I see no other path to change.

And if there should be a change, I sincerely hope that the game would be skewed towards what some fans would term the "old-fashion chess". Players of already uncompromising styles, like Christiansen, Hodgson, J. Polgar, Kasparov, would be helped right off the bat. Players of super solid style, like Kramnik or Leko, would probably have to adjust their approach. Also openings like exchange French and exchange Slaw would probably become quite rare.

<Eggman> I am sorry I got under your skin as it seems. That was not my intention. Nor is my intention to <... change chess into some kind of chess variant or something > . Instead, I hope that the traditional, slow chess I grew to love forty odd years ago be preserved as much as possible, without rapid, blitz and bulet chess sudden-death shootouts. I like fast chess, but I consider time-to-think a wonderful luxury of life. And, for me, it is an essential part of our game. (Otherwise, <ughaibu's> earlier reccomendation, which takes away the draw completely, is a brilliant method of dealing with the fightless draw problem.)

As for your suggestion: It has been tried and failed. Moreover, I dislike it on a human level -- it treats players as incompetent juveniles. Had it worked, we could put up with that. Alas it does not seem to work.

Oct-18-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  ray keene: <templar> more or less everything fide does is a joke-i just hope they learn some lessons and that kaspy v khasi actually does take place-all this stuff in the khaleej times about 16 chess shaped hotels to accompany it in a multi billion dollar development sounds like megalomania to me-but perhaps i am out of touch!

if you recall the roman senator cato used to end all his speeches with the words -cartago delenda est! well-a bas fischerrandom!! let me see how long i can keep it up.

Oct-18-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  ray keene: <chessical> amen to that-which is your favourite alekhine game by the way?
Oct-18-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  ray keene: forgot-a bas fischerrandom!
Oct-18-04  Larsker: <all this stuff in the khaleej times about 16 chess shaped hotels to accompany it in a multi billion dollar development sounds like megalomania to me-but perhaps i am out of touch!> I think we need a comment from mahmoudkubba about all this. He's our expert concerning Mecca and that part of the world.
Oct-18-04
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  Chessical: <Raykeene> It may not be his most sophisticated game, but it impresses me for its sheer forcefulness: Tarrasch vs Alekhine, 1922
Oct-18-04  iron maiden: I'm a little late to the discussion on WC match formats, but here's my quick plan: First to win five or six games takes the title. To preserve the advantage for the world champion, I suggest that he automatically gets White in the first game. That way he has a better chance, however small the difference may be, of reaching that X number of wins first.
Oct-18-04  templar: And though he took his life with his own hands, he made inevitable the ides of March... 16 chess shaped hotels... a pipe dream of someone who wishes to control chess not serve it... but I do like the sail shaped 7 star hotel in the UAE....
Oct-18-04  Gypsy: I'd like chime in on the <Devil's match> issue. To prosecute the game on the behalf of my sould, I'd also sellect 1.Lasker, 2.Fischer, and 3.Kasparov; in that order and for the same reasons as stated previously. My current question is: who to put 4.-6. in the lineup?

I reckon I'd like to have 4.Bronstein, during 1953 black win with Reschevsky, upon Kremlin orders. He is one of few ever cunning enough to outfox Mr. Devil. Next, 5.Karpov; tough like nails and Devil would underestimate him. And then 6.Korchnoi; he would would not yield an inch and probably would scare Devil to death. :-)

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