| Feb-09-05 |
| WMD: The charismatic, if crooked, former FIDE president deserves a victory to his name. |
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| May-17-05 |
| soberknight: No he doesn't! He's a loser and it shows. |
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| May-17-05 |
| aw1988: Quite possibly the worst FIDE president. |
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| May-17-05 |
| Kangaroo: "Quite possibly (Campomanes was ) the worst FIDE president." Ilyumzhinov has proven to beat the records of Campomanes. Shame on FIDE! |
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| Jul-09-05 |
| OlimpBase: In 2003 he was sentenced for 22 months of prison however journalists reported that due to his mature age he could avoid jail. Anyone knows what actually happened to him? |
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| Aug-15-06 |
| Bobak Zahmat: <aw1988: Quite possibly the worst FIDE president.> Do you think? What about Kirsan? |
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Jan-16-07
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| acirce: <THE Supreme Court acquitted former International Chess Federation president Florencio Campomanes after he was convicted by the Sandiganbayan for failure to make an accounting of funds during the Chess Olympiad in Manila in 1992. In an 18-page decision promulgated on December 19, the Court’s Third Division cleared Campo-manes, saying the prosecution failed to prove culpability. The Sandiganbayan found Campomanes guilty of irregularities in the disbursement and liquidation of the funds that the Philippine Sports Commission (PSC) made available to FIDE for the Chess Olympiad. Campomanes was at the time president of the Federation Internationale Des Echecs (FIDE), which organized the Olympiad. But the Supreme Court reversed the Sandiganbayan’s decision, saying there was no legal basis to compel Campomanes to make an accounting to the Commission on Audit (COA).> http://www.manilatimes.net/national... |
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| Jan-16-07 |
| setebos: Kirsan claims he took a ride on an UFO,maybe Campomanes was the pilot :) |
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| Jan-16-07 |
| barbababa: Kirsan is crazy. I read some time ago some articles written on him, here are two of them. http://www.buzzle.com/articles/1095...
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...
I can't understand how he was re-elected to FIDE president, when every brain cell should shout "Anybody but Kirsan!". The thought that he was re-elected is really depressing, makes me think that democracy really can't work when people are so hopelessly stupid. I think each country's chess federation had one vote. Would be interesting to know wich countries voted for Kirsan and what were their reasons. I wouldn't be surpriced if Kirsan just bribed some poor countries to vote him. |
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Jan-16-07
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| Caissanist: While Kirsan is certainly corrupt, I rather doubt that he's been in Campomanes' league when it comes to crookedness. It was Campomanes whose greed convinced the world champion to abandon FIDE, and then it was Ilyumzhinov who convinced him to come back--that should count for something. A lot of the criticism of Kirsan seems to stem from frustration over the lack of sponsorship and general decline of chess as a public sport, but I think that is mostly a larger trend. After all, the PCA couldn't get sponsors either. |
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| Jan-16-07 |
| barbababa: I am not so concerned about sponsors. I don't understand why people voluntarily choose crazy, corrupted, possible murderer, dictator who uses common money as his own to lead an international organization with tens of thousands of members. Here are some of the "best" parts of articles about Kirsan Ilyumzhinov. <And then there is the danger of alien abduction. He has already been pressganged into one trip on a UFO - seven years ago when he was on a business trip to Moscow. "They took me from my apartment and we went aboard their ship," he says, sitting in his office in Kalmykia's capital, Elista. "We flew to some kind of star. They put a spacesuit on me, told me many things and showed me around. They wanted to demonstrate that UFOs do exist."> On top of this Kirsan believes in angels, mind reading, parapsychology, etc. Clearly, a patient in a mental hospital is a better place for him than President of FIDE (, not to mention President of Kalmykia). While Kalmykia is one of the poorest regions in Russia, Kirsan lives in a luxury haouse and owns several Rolls-Royces. <He once campaigned in a 9m-long Lincoln saloon under the slogan "a wealthy president is a safeguard against corruption".> <On becoming its leader, Ilyumzhinov - who was the country's chess champion at 15 - abolished its parliament and installed an authoritarian regime, promising to introduce "economic dictatorship".> Big part of poor Kalmykia's tax moneys obviously goes to Kirsan's pockets. <Chess City - the $50m complex that he built on the edge of his sleepy capital - turned out to be a white elephant of Millennium Dome proportions: its foundations are subsiding and few of its luxury homes are inhabited. The match this week could not be held there because although the complex has a swimming pool, a hotel and a grocery store, it does not have a hall large enough for a big chess match. >
<In 1993 he met the pope who told him to help the Catholic church in his country. When
Ilyumzhinov returned he discovered there was exactly one Catholic person in Kalmykia.
Nevertheless he built a Catholic cathedral in Kalmykia.> Some examples of how Kirsan uses money. Probably, one of top performances of how to spend other peoples money stupidly in whole world history. Surely, Kirsan is not a good choice to decide about FIDE money. Gadafy and Saddam Hussein are Kirsan friends, George Bush to Genghis Khan his idols. <In 1998 Larisa Yudina, editor of the opposition newspaper Sovetskaya Kalmykia, was stabbed to death and her body dumped in a pond on the outskirts of Elista.> Ilyumzhinov is believed ordering the murder. |
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Jan-16-07
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| Gregor Samsa Mendel: <I don't understand why people voluntarily choose crazy, corrupted, possible murderer, dictator who uses common <<<<money>>>> as his own to lead an international organization with tens of thousands of members.> I believe the answer to your question is highlighted in color. Money doesn't talk; it dictates. |
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Jan-16-07
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| Shams: <barbababa: On top of this Kirsan believes in angels, mind reading, parapsychology, etc. Clearly, a patient in a mental hospital is a better place for him than President of FIDE, not to mention President of Kalmykia.> then billions of people in the world belong in mental hospitals, too. 60% of Icelanders believe in faeries, according to my Let's Go: Europe 1998. As for alien abductions -- SOMETHING is happening to these people. There are enough real reasons to slag on Ilyumzhinov. <GSM> great quote. |
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| Jan-16-07 |
| setebos: I will vote for Shams in the next FIDE election on the condition that I get a free ride in the UFO :) |
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Jan-16-07
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| Shams: sorry, setebos. rides start at 200 grand-- and that's coach. :) |
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| Jan-17-07 |
| barbababa: <Gregor Samsa Mendel> <I believe the answer to your question is highlighted in color. Money doesn't talk; it dictates.>
Money in what sense? Do you mean that Ilyumzhinov bribed some of the chess federarions or that they believed that Kirsan brings more money to the chess or something else? At least if I consider how he has behaved as a President of Kalmykia, I would expect that also some of the FIDE money would end up in his pockets. |
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Jan-17-07
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| Caissanist: It seems to me that he can't be stealing much, since FIDE's total budget is only about two million dollars. http://www.fide.com/news/download/a... |
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Feb-02-07
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| Resignation Trap: According to http://64.ru , Campomanes was injured in a rollover accident today. |
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Feb-02-07
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| acirce: This is very sad to hear. http://www.fide.com/news.asp?id=1245 has more information. |
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| Feb-13-07 |
| gazzawhite: It seems Campomanes is too corrupt to wear a seat belt. |
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| Feb-13-07 |
| setebos: Campomanes was ejected from the car and is extremely lucky to be alive. It seems he was not restrained by a seatbelt. Apparently Satan is too busy right now to attend to such a distinguished personage :)) |
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