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| Mar-01-13 | | IndigoViolet: The problem with this event wasn't too many draws, but too few ties. |
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| Mar-01-13 | | enqwert: I think Kramnik simply experimented. His blunders came from avoiding easy, natural, 1st choise moves, perhaps to become tricky or to keep the game alive. He avoided winning exchange vs Gelfand, g4 (a superficial attack vs Caruana)and Re3 and avoided exchanging Anand's centralised queen. It became clear that tricky chess does not score well for him. |
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| Mar-01-13 | | Jambow: Although Kramnik blundered, Vishy gave him the chance to do so with the exchange sac. Anand looked like Anand of old with dynamic activity in various locations and piece coordination. This didn't look like all I'm playing for is not to make a mistake chess that so soothes me to sleep. Caruana played a nice game again looking stronger than ever. For a young player he has mature understanding in how to win the won game. Maybe Anand has or will adopt a new philosophy (or his former one) for 2013 I see glimmers of hope. |
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Mar-01-13
 | | Peligroso Patzer: Although the comment by <FadeThePublic> (stating, i.a., that "Caruana destroyed this field") strikes me as distictly fatuous, it is interesting that Caruana (by far the youngest participant) achieved the only plus-score in this event. It often happens that a decsive result from a hard-fought struggle comes down to the question of who will first falter technically or tactically, and thereby suddenly stumble into a lost position. Older players were the ones who in this event faltered in this way, very possibly due to fatigue setting in after several hours' play. In passing, I will note that the reference by <Jason Frost> to Caruana's finishing "second to Anand in ZCC" should, of course, refer to the GRENKE Chess Classic (2013), not the ZCC (this event) |
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| Mar-01-13 | | SetNoEscapeOn: <Jim Bartle: Parmedt: "The number of armchair quarterbacks amazes me."
Yes, and we never throw an interception, or even an incompletion.> And no completions either. Call it long castling :) |
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| Mar-01-13 | | Eyal: <Although Kramnik blundered, Vishy gave him the chance to do so with the exchange sac.> There wasn't any real exchange sac - 22.Rxa6! followed by 23.Qxd3 wins two minor pieces for the rook; and the basic game-losing blunder by Kramnik came before that with 21...Qb8?? (later, 23...Qa8 instead of Qxb2 might lose more slowly, but it doesn't really make a fundamental difference anymore). It looks like Kramnik tried to create a sharp and unbalanced game, like he did in his 3 previous games in this tournament as well, and at a certain point got too reckless and lost his sense of danger. He avoided the exchange of bishops on move 11, a move before the blunder he avoided forcing a draw with 20...Nxh3 (21.gxh3 Qd7 22.Rac1 Qxh3+ 23.Kg1 Qg4+ and perpetual check), and then he avoided the exchange of queens - which would have been the sensible thing to do - on move 21, at which point it backfired badly. |
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| Mar-01-13 | | DrAttitude: 2013 will be remembered as the changing of the guard. |
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Mar-02-13
 | | Phony Benoni: Those who think this tournament had a high percentage of draws might want to check out this (still incomplete) collection: Game Collection: Petrosian Memorial 1999 |
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| Mar-02-13 | | Absentee: Fitting for a Petrosian memorial. |
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| Mar-02-13 | | timbol: <<FadeThePublic: Cuarano destroyed this field, lets stop inviting these old farts, the chess world is not for Old Men.>
Or we could stop inviting Caruana since he got <destroyed> at Tata Steel and second to Anand in ZCC.> Stop all invitations and let's all prepare to embark for a voyage into the open sea...where the true chess messiah awaits...Who is he? I don't need to answer that. It is <SO> clear and plain to see. |
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| Mar-02-13 | | Billy Vaughan: At risk of baiting certain kibitzers with a piece of trivia they're sure to misinterpret.... Caruana is not much older than Carlsen was when he, too, played a four-player DRR against Anand and Kramnik. Carlsen, you may remember, did not fare as well! Congratulations to Caruana for a fine tournament win and a bold statement about his place in the world elite. |
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| Mar-02-13 | | Kinghunt: Everyone but Caruana lost rating points here, with Kramnik being the largest point donor by far. |
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| Mar-02-13 | | Kinghunt: <Billy Vaughan> I think the comparison is naive at best. This is one of Caruana's best results ever. That was one of Carlsen's worst results ever. It's rather meaningless to cherry pick individual tournaments and then compare results. |
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| Mar-02-13 | | SetNoEscapeOn: <Billy Vaughan: At risk of baiting certain kibitzers with a piece of trivia they're sure to misinterpret...> And sure enough fanboy #21 answers the call |
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| Mar-02-13 | | Sokrates: I have to agree with <Kanatahodets> (thanks for you amusing, witty posts!) on the statements that sometimes flourish here. It's a forum of free speech so anyone can write that Wesley So is the strongest player in the world or that Kramnik and Anand are has-beens. It is a pleasant contrast, however, to read some substantiated reasonings and arguments, and fortunately those who execute that good deed are still around. |
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| Mar-02-13 | | sofouuk: <And sure enough fanboy #21 answers the call>the point made by said fanboy is still valid, of course |
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| Mar-02-13 | | jancotianno: I have to say I'm really surprised by Kramnik's results in the tournament, I thought he would win it. |
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| Mar-02-13 | | Tiggler: <jancotianno: I have to say I'm really surprised by Kramnik's results in the tournament, I thought he would win it.> Kramnik and Gelfand were gambling, while Anand and Caruana played conservatively. The results show which is the more profitable strategy. The opposite works better in Open Swiss tournaments, but in this company solid play is the only way to go. |
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| Mar-02-13 | | FadeThePublic: Yeah, too bad Kramnik and Gelfand don't know as much tournament strategy as your mighty self there GM Tiggler. |
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| Mar-02-13 | | jancotianno: <Tiggler> I agree with your comment about solid play in this tournament, unfortunately many people will think it isn't the most attractive form of chess, something like the candidates should be brilliant to watch. |
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| Mar-02-13 | | LucB: <SNEO>
<And sure enough fanboy #21 answers the call> You're not keeping count, are you? ;o) |
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| Mar-02-13 | | LucB: <Kanatahodets>
<Both are not ethnic Russians> Kramnik is not ethnic Russian?? News to me ... |
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| Mar-02-13 | | Billy Vaughan: <Kinghunt: <Billy Vaughan> I think the comparison is naive at best. This is one of Caruana's best results ever. That was one of Carlsen's worst results ever. It's rather meaningless to cherry pick individual tournaments and then compare results.> I know that, of course ;). That's why I prefaced it as a piece of trivia, rather than a similarity that means anything. |
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Mar-02-13
 | | perfidious: <Sokrates: ....It's a forum of free speech so anyone can write that Wesley So is the strongest player in the world....> He is. By far.
<....or that Kramnik and Anand are has-beens.....> They are.
Haven't you learnt ANYthing from my brilliant commentaries here? <....It is a pleasant contrast, however, to read some substantiated reasonings and arguments, and fortunately those who execute that good deed are still around.> In all seriousness, it is indeed a good thing we have some of that, to counterbalance the flag-waving and fanboyism which appears all-pervading at times. |
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| Mar-02-13 | | Refused: In all fairness, there was backlash on the So fans reasonable (yes, they exist) and unreasonable alike.
So got quite some bashing for his last round short draw in Reykjavik. Which was probably way harder than for any other GM, because of the annoying and unreasonable (trolling) half of his support.
Afterall it was a good result (maybe not flashy for some reasons), he passed the 2.700 mark, he finished second (shared first). Those are all quite remarkable achievements, but ofc. some other kibitzes took some joy into mentioning, that a 4 move draw is not what the real deal barracuda like creature would do.
That was a reasonable tournament decission between professionals. |
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