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SPICE Cup Tournament

Maxime Vachier-Lagrave6/10(+2 -0 =8)[games]
Le Quang Liem5.5/10(+1 -0 =9)[games]
Ding Liren5.5/10(+2 -1 =7)[games]
Wesley So5/10(+1 -1 =8)[games]
Csaba Balogh4/10(+0 -2 =8)[games]
Georg Meier4/10(+1 -3 =6)[games]

 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 30  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. C Balogh vs Vachier-Lagrave ½-½682012SPICE CupB52 Sicilian, Canal-Sokolsky (Rossolimo) Attack
2. G Meier vs Le Quang Liem  ½-½482012SPICE CupB27 Sicilian
3. Ding Liren vs So ½-½462012SPICE CupD37 Queen's Gambit Declined
4. Le Quang Liem vs Vachier-Lagrave  ½-½802012SPICE CupA29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto
5. G Meier vs Ding Liren 1-0642012SPICE CupE94 King's Indian, Orthodox
6. So vs C Balogh ½-½452012SPICE CupC67 Ruy Lopez
7. Vachier-Lagrave vs So  ½-½392012SPICE CupD31 Queen's Gambit Declined
8. C Balogh vs G Meier  ½-½362012SPICE CupC07 French, Tarrasch
9. Ding Liren vs Le Quang Liem ½-½342012SPICE CupD44 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
10. C Balogh vs Le Quang Liem  ½-½242012SPICE CupC07 French, Tarrasch
11. Ding Liren vs C Balogh 1-0432012SPICE CupD16 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
12. G Meier vs Vachier-Lagrave 0-1272012SPICE CupA35 English, Symmetrical
13. So vs G Meier 1-0372012SPICE CupC11 French
14. Vachier-Lagrave vs Ding Liren ½-½532012SPICE CupE60 King's Indian Defense
15. Le Quang Liem vs So  ½-½352012SPICE CupD44 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
16. Vachier-Lagrave vs C Balogh  ½-½362012SPICE CupA29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto
17. So vs Ding Liren ½-½572012SPICE CupE67 King's Indian, Fianchetto
18. Le Quang Liem vs G Meier  ½-½302012SPICE CupE32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical
19. Ding Liren vs G Meier 1-0462012SPICE CupD39 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin, Vienna Variation
20. Vachier-Lagrave vs Le Quang Liem  ½-½332012SPICE CupB90 Sicilian, Najdorf
21. C Balogh vs So ½-½282012SPICE CupB40 Sicilian
22. Le Quang Liem vs Ding Liren  ½-½332012SPICE CupE62 King's Indian, Fianchetto
23. So vs Vachier-Lagrave 0-1532012SPICE CupD81 Grunfeld, Russian Variation
24. G Meier vs C Balogh  ½-½452012SPICE CupD12 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
25. Le Quang Liem vs C Balogh 1-0422012SPICE CupD16 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
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Oct-28-12  tolengoy: Hear ye all. Lest I be mistaken, let me make myself clear. My lamentations are not meant to troll or provide self amusement..nor are they meant to stir the calm waters and create a tsunami.

Rather, they are part and parcel of an honest crusade for justice and truth. I do not speak for Wesley. He can speak his own mind. I only articulate in defense to what I believe is just and true- to which the elo system is not. It gives a result greatly dependent on volume of activity - for a couple players of equal strength, the one with more tournaments logged in with turn in the higher numbers. That's why Carlsen is on top...he gets countless tokens to play the video game, when all is counted and done, he will surely top Wesley who is given only one.

I have nothing against Magnus...the system is to blame. Fortunately for him, he and his fellow goldfish stand as the beneficiary...Sadly for Wes, he and his fellow barracudas and the rest of the sardines and planktons stand as the casualty.

Is it that hard to see? Probably not...the problem is maybe you folks are not able to see more deeply. You are all in a hypnotic state. Snap out of it. It's a mirage your seeing. Time to break the projector which is flashing a wrong image in the video screen. Is it Magnus? No it is Wesley.

Oct-28-12  joachimvhw: No, you are, in fact, a troll. You ignore explanations and corrections, you ignore statistics, you cherry-pick, you are often times openly lying, ... You have compared yourself and Wesley So to Jesus, Galileo, etc... You wallow in an insane persecution complex. You talk about 'defending truth, justice, ...' like only truly egomaniacal people can, meanwhile mistaking your appeals to emotion for answers to our posts.

<I only articulate in defense to what I believe is just and true- to which the elo system is not. It gives a result greatly dependent on volume of activity - for a couple players of equal strength, the one with more tournaments logged in with turn in the higher numbers. >

Prove it.

You continue to lie about this.
You have been corrected on this core issue numerous times, but still post it, all the while becoming more grotesque in your replies and bloated egotism.

This is the definition of trolling (or, if you're genuinely not trying to troll, of particular personality disorders).

Oct-28-12  tolengoy: <He does NOT NEED you. His performance will SPEAK FOR ITSELF.> Did I say otherwise. Maybe its time for me to end my agony. Forgive me Wesley...http://youtu.be/hcO4MMzdYE8
Oct-28-12  tolengoy: <Prove it.> I can't. I'm dead!
Oct-28-12  tolengoy: My funeral:

http://youtu.be/QjiV1wKGMU8

Oct-28-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  alexmagnus: < It gives a result greatly dependent on volume of activity - for a couple players of equal strength, the one with more tournaments logged in with turn in the higher numbers>

Only:

a)if both (starting with the same rating) perform higher than expected by this very same rating. If both perform at par with the rating, it doesn't change at all, and if both perform lower, the more active player comes out worse.

b)for one rating period. In the second rating period the first player may actually - if maintaining the same level of activity - come out with a smaller rating. Because he has a higher starting rating.

Oct-28-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <tolengoy: <Prove it.> I can't. I'm dead!>

If only.

But just in case this blessed news is true, here's your epitaph.

<SPICE 2009: 4th
Corus B 2010: 4th
Spice 2010: 4th
Tata Steel B 2011: 4th
Airports Authority of India 2011: 4th.
Spice 2012: 4th.
Aeroflot blitz: 5th >

Oct-28-12  MarkFinan: keypusher... LOL.

My own view Is all these Filipino's are just complete @#$%@#$%s, to put it nicely!

Oct-28-12  Absentee: <Benjamin1981: What will happen when his 30? He'll grow a beard? Start wearing sandals?>

Perhaps he'll start bowling and have people call him "The Dude".

Oct-28-12  Jim Bartle: Better watch out for the Nihilists, then!
Oct-29-12  drik: <tolengoy: <Your ignorance of Tennis is no less complete than your ignorance of Chess or you ignorance of Cosmology> Why didn't you mention golf? and billards?>

Because I only have to prove you a liar once - as I did by pointing out the ATP policy of INVITING the top 104 out 128 competitors.

I don't have to try to prove you a fool - anyone who refers to the great Bjorn Borg as Bjorg, needs no help in that regard. Confuse him with Bjork did you?

Oct-29-12  drik: <tolengoy: It's still a very good performance if you compare with with Magnus finishing <dead last>.>

His first & only poor performance. He finished SECOND in his next event, Linares if I remember right. So by his SECOND elite tournament, the 16 year old Carlsen was already better than Wesley So is ever likely to be. Hurts does it?

<...Wesley finishing in the middle of the pack...invited he is not.>

Wesley has never finsihed middle of the pack - he has NEVER qualified for an elite event in his life. Because he finished 4th, 4th & 4th in all 3 B events. Carlsen in contrast tied for first at the B event at his VERY FIRST ATTEMPT.

Oct-29-12  drik: <tolengoy: He has Arianne- his losing antidote:>

So having a girlfriend is the antidote to ratings inequity? Makes me wonder whether your ignorance of chess, tennis and cosmology is matched by your ignorance of women!

Oct-29-12  FamilyTree: Celebrating Wesley So's 19th Birthday:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oVyn-JIDw...

A closer look to the cake:
http://back2pack.files.wordpress.co...

Oct-29-12  Parbrahman: With hard work, perseverance and the breaks going his way, the 4th of July can become the 1st of May.
Oct-30-12  drik: <tolengoy: <.but then you know So little - http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybka... "Carlsen, by a fairly hefty 24.5-15.5 score." ...& Naka's best ICC rating was 3750. LOL!> fairly hefty you say? I say fairy tale....>

...knowing so little, it is not surprising you cannot distinguish between 'fairly hefty' and 'hefty fairy'. Perhaps it reflects on your social circles.

Oct-30-12  iking: i like <tolengoy> ... smash them dude
Oct-30-12  iking: < tolengoy: <Prove it.> I can't. I'm dead!>

tsk tsk

u can't answer then <tolengoy> ... sayonara

Oct-31-12  kardopov: Peace beckons. No more bashing and counter-bashing pls!? 'Til next tournament would be ok.
Oct-31-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: < tolengoy: ....some spelling corrections if you don't mind:

1. forth should be fourth
3. moar should be more>

On the first, you're right of course, but 'moar' is actually fairly commonly seen on the Internet.

Nov-01-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <kardopov: Peace beckons. No more bashing and counter-bashing pls!? 'Til next tournament would be ok.>

If your fellow Pinoy stops posting stupid crap there can be peace much longer than that.

Nov-16-12  brankat: It appears <tolengoy> has not been seen (under that user-name) ever since his Funeral, Oct-28-2102.

He shall not be missed :-)

Nov-16-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Troller: <Brankat> He is alive and well under User: liwanag

As Troll-connaisseur it is always vexing to see young ambitious trolls succumb to peer pressure and retire, but rest assured <tolengoy> is not one of these quitters :)

Nov-16-12  brankat: <Troller> Thanks! Yes, his resurrection has been fully expected. SO, then, the show must go on :-)
Nov-16-12  liwanag: <He is alive and well under User: liwanag>

I went over the history of this page. I say the protagonist <tolengoy> makes a lot of sense...agreeing with him is one thing...branding me as his copycat is a serious allegation and must be based on empirical evidence than mere baseless insinuation.

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