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| Mar-03-09 | | swarmoflocusts: I just want to say that this pun is one of my favorite jazz songs. |
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| Mar-11-09 | | shaqcosteau: Bg2 was a hell of a move. Fischer was brilliant. |
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| Mar-11-09 | | AnalyzeThis: Presumably you mean 29. Bg2, not 5. Bg2. :) |
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| Mar-11-09 | | parisattack: A very workman-like KIA - although Myag did not put up much counter attack on the queenside. Leonid Stein played some sweet KIAs against the Caro-Kann...often employing a b4 thrust as black hasn't played ...c5. |
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| Mar-12-09 | | AnalyzeThis: I was talking about this in relationship with another game tonight. The problem with a lot of these black defenses involving kingside castling is the c8 bishop for black. Look at this game - that thing was a useless piece of wood. If black could have traded it for something - any piece - he would have. As it was, Fischer was basically a piece ahead in his kingside attack. It's for reasons like this that the Caro - Kann can be a safer defense for black. The c8 bishop comes out to some square, f5 or g4, and you trade it off at some convenient opportuntity for some piece that would have, as in the Fischer vs. Myagmarsuren game, burned your kingside down. |
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Apr-04-09
 | | Jarman: <shaqcosteau: Bg2 was a hell of a move. Fischer was brilliant.> 29. Bg4 was much better, is it so difficult to understand? Jeez. |
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| Apr-04-09 | | ounos: <Woody Wood Pusher: ... Master Chess (32 bit 20 MHz)>
Wow, you are a bit on the slow side of computation there, aren't you? |
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| Apr-04-09 | | AnalyzeThis: <Jarman: I have no idea, especially because after 29. Bg4 he would have had a forced mate in 14 moves. And I am amazed nobody has pointed that out yet after five pages of discussion. > We all just glance at the position these days, and see mate in 14's, just like that. Of course, it sort of helps that we're looking at it through the lens of something that can calculate more moves in a second than the rest of humanity will calculate in a lifetime. |
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Apr-04-09
 | | keypusher: <traction: Any idea why fischer played Bg2 first?> To set up the mate that would have occurred in the game after 31....Kxh7 32. hxg6+ Kxg6 33. Be4#. <jarman> You do not show to advantage in the reflection of your engine's glory. :-) Instead of preening, why not post the mate so we can all learn something? |
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Apr-04-09
| | keypusher: Here is a mate after 29. Bg4:
29.Bg4 dxc2 30.Qh6 c1(Q)+ 31.Rxc1 Rxc1+ 32.Kh2 Rh1+ 33.Kxh1 Bb7+ 34.Kg1 Qf8 35.Qxh7+ Kxh7 36.hxg6+ Kxg6 37.Bh5+ Kh7 (37....Kf5 38. Rf4#) 38.Be2+ Qh6 39.Bd3+ Be4 40.Bxe4+ Kg8 41.Rxh6 any 42.Rh8# A little like some of the variations in Larsen vs Petrosian, 1966. |
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Apr-08-09
| | Jarman: <AnalyzeThis: We all just glance at the position these days, and see mate in 14's, just like that.> <keypusher: You do not show to advantage in the reflection of your engine's glory. :-)> I apologize for my rude comments, although I must admit they were also meant to provoke some ironic replies :-) I just hate when people don't even try to find a better move, blindly trusting the judgement of human champions. These people will always be unable to find the purest chess truth. |
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| Apr-08-09 | | Everett: <<Jarman> These people will <always> be unable to find the purest chess truth.> That's total BS, because MANY human's have played the "best moves" after continued computer scrutiny, all the way back to Morphy. And there are still, and probably always, some positions that computers don't always understand. ... and by "purest" you mean "most accurate," that's your opinion, but my idea of purest chess has much more to do with the fight, the emotions and the resiliency expressed by humans when there is chaos on the board. I have much less use for your view of chess truth. |
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| Apr-23-09 | | WhiteRook48: 31 Qxh7+!! Kxh7 32 hxg6+
32...Kxg6 33 Be4#
32...Kg8 33 Rh8# |
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| Jun-01-09 | | sfm: Hah! Love the sneaky little innocent 29.Bg2. Must have surprised Black. "Huh? Pointing out in the blue. Should I be afraid of that?"
At 31.Qxh7+ it all became clear... |
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| Jun-01-09 | | WhiteRook48: 29 Bg2! takes the e4-square |
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| Aug-24-09 | | tentsewang: Fischer was ready to boom the double check and mate in 3. 31.Qxh7+ Kxh7 32.hxg6+ Kxg6 33.Be4# |
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| Nov-01-09 | | jerseybob: Following up Charles Sullivan's post about the move a3, I'm thinking of a game I saw around 69 or 70 with Uhlmann as black against maybe Wade, though it's not in this database. In that game white(Wade?)didn't play a3 and allowed BLACK to play a3, to which white replied b3. Black then played the manuever Nc6-a7-b5 and had a total stranglehold. |
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| Mar-02-10 | | anandrulez: Does Rybka 3 spot bf6 here ? My old Rybka doesnt spot it and takes lot of time to find the idea . |
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| Apr-14-10 | | Ulhumbrus: On 29 Bg4 (Jarman) 29...Qf8 30 hxg6 fxg6 31 Bxe6+ Rf7 32 Rxh7! Kxh7 33 Bxf7 Qh6 ( 33...Qxf7 34 Qh4+ Kg8 35 Qh8 mate) 34 Qxh6 Kxh6 35 Kg2 wins as Black has no satisfactory answer to the threat of 36 Rh1 mate eg 35...Bc6+ 36 f3 dxc2 37 Rh1 mate or 35...Kh5 36 f3 dxc2 37 Rh1 mate Both 29 Bg4 and 29 Bg2 appear to win.
Perhaps Fischer thinks that 29 Bg2 dxc2 30 Qh6 Qf8 31 Qxh7+ wins more quickly than 29 Bg4 dxc2 30 Qh6 Qf8 31 Qxh7+ wins quickly. |
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| May-22-10 | | Philidor: <sfm: Hah! Love the sneaky little innocent 29.Bg2. Must have surprised Black. "Huh? Pointing out in the blue. Should I be afraid of that?" At 31.Qxh7+ it all became clear...> Exactly! |
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| Jul-06-10 | | Damianx: After 28 R h4 its mate in a multiple of ways no matter i myself like 29 pawn takes pawn pawn takes pawn 30 queen takes pawn pawn takes queen 31 rook h8 mate |
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| Jul-06-10 | | Damianx: woops sorry i,m wrong |
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| Jul-07-10 | | Wrong: I'm the real Wrong. |
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| Aug-02-10 | | sevenseaman: Brilliant! The coup comes at the very (wit's) end. |
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| Aug-02-10 | | MaxxLange: such a beautiful finish!
I have read that the French "long variation" against the KIA, as seen here at about move 9-12, has been patched up, and is now considered equal by theory. |
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