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| May-02-05 |
| BeautyInChess: I was thinking 20.  xc5. Does anyone see a refutation of this move? 20 ... dxc5 is out because of  f6+ winning the queen. |
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May-02-05
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| Shams: <BeautyInChess>it's an interesting try but black gets a rook, dark-squared bishop, and e-pawn for his queen. I think it would be very difficult for white to fashion a win out of the resulting position. |
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May-02-05
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| AgentRgent: <BeautyInChess/Shams> I agree with Shams, after 20. Bxc5 dxc5 21. Nf6+ Bxf6 22. Rxd8 Raxd8 Black may in fact be better, but certainly he's not worse. (ITPO of course) |
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May-02-05
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| Boomie: GM Keene's elegant queen sac after 22...e6 23. Bg5 exd5! looks good. Not only does black control the black squares but it's difficult for white's queen to enter the action. Here's one possible line:
22... e6 23. Bg5 exd5 24. Bxd8 Raxd8 25. cxd5 (25. b4 Ne4 26. cxd5 Rde8 27. g3 f5 28. Bf3 Kg7 29. Bxe4 Bd4+ 30. Kh1 Rxe4 31. Qh3 Rfe8 32. Rc1 Re1+ 33. Rxe1 Rxe1+ 34. Kg2 b5 35. Qh4 Re2+ 36. Kf1 Rf2+ 37. Ke1 Bf6 38. Qh3 Rxa2 =}
25... Bxb2 26. Bf3 Rde8 27. Rb1 Be5 28. Qh6 Bd4+ 29. Kf1 Bg7 30. Qd2 Be5 31. g3 Kg7  However white can improve by trading down to an endgame with two bishops vs. a rook, which is probably a win. Here's one line to show how that works:
23. Qxd8 Rfxd8 24. Rxe5 dxe5 25. Bxc5 Rac8 26. Be3 Rxc4 27. Bd1 a5 28. Bg5 Rd7 29. Bf6 Rc5 30. Bf3 Rd2 31. Bxb7 g5 32. Rb1 Rb5 33. Bc6 Rbxb2 34. Rxb2 Rxb2 35. a4 Rc2 36. Bb5 g4 37. Bxe5  |
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| Nov-20-05 |
| Eggman: The Keres-Petrosian game referred to by GM Keene above: Keres vs Petrosian, 1959 |
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Nov-20-05
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| khense: <Larsker> I had the pleasure of being in the Miramar Hotel tournament room to see QXG6. Larson - a great guy - went into the analysis room and cheerfully stated that he played QXG6 because he had no other move! |
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Nov-20-05
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| IMlday: People remember this game. It was in the top ten 20th century games accordian Toronto Star readers. |
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| Nov-20-05 |
| DeepBlade: What does Grand Larseny mean?
Anyway, great game by Bent Larsen. |
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Nov-20-05
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| WannaBe: <DeepBlade: What does Grand Larseny mean?> It is a pun from larceny, which is stealing. I have often faced the same situation as black, once I 0-0, I often face a relentless assault on my K in the corner, and I often lose the game that way. It always seems that my queen and a8 rook are out of action, and I am forced to defend only using the B & Ns =( |
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| Nov-20-05 |
| TigerPawns: drunkenknight, 28... Be5 29. Rf5 (K-any) 30. RxB PxB 31. RxQ is a win (two bishops and no weaknesses vs rook and devastated pawns). White has pawn majorities on both sides of the board which is too much for the lone rook to hold. |
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Nov-20-05
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| kevin86: Larsen sacs his queen vs a world champion! What a great thrill!! |
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| Nov-20-05 |
| Robreke: I am new to this site.....have a question; On this game ( and others I've seen ) the database ends when the material in the games is about even. There appears to be no clear winner at the end ( at least to me) How do we best interpret this? Can someone tell me why the analysis on this game ends at move 30 with about equal material and no imminent danger to the king? Thanks ! |
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| Nov-20-05 |
| sitzkrieg: Robreke; There is a threat to the black king. The main line i think is 1 Rh3 chess, Kg8 2. Rxg7chess Kxg7 and then Bd4 mates. Petrosian saw this and therefore resigned. |
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| Nov-20-05 |
| sitzkrieg: O yes, Black can't prevent the threats without giving material, so he has a lost position. |
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Nov-20-05
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| Albertan: Shredder 8 found an interesting exchange sacrifice that no one else has mentioned. Instead of playing 22...Ne6 Petrosian could have played 22...Nd7!? and an interesting exchange sacrifice is possible: 22... Nd7 23. Bxd7 Qxd7 24. Rf3 Qe6 25. Rh3 Rfc8 26. Bf4 Qxh3 27. Qxh3!? Bxf4 |
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| Nov-20-05 |
| RookFile: Kasparov felt that 22.... Ne6 was
ok, and black would be ok after 24...Ng7 25. Bf3 (25. Qh7+ only draws)
Kf7 26. Rb5 Rh8 27. Bd5+ Ne6 28. Qg5 Qd7 |
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| Oct-02-06 |
| Operation Mindcrime: Another terrific, thought slightly difficult to see, combination by Larsen. "Basically uncomplicated, but nonetheless beautiful and rare" - Petrosian's comment on 25.  xg6!! |
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| Mar-01-07 |
| Inf: < RookFile: Kasparov felt that 22.... Ne6 was
ok >
i think 22...Nf6 was weak, but 23...Bf6 was weaker, thats when Petrosian realized what was coming. 23...f5! was the only move that needed to play, at least to hold on, since white's plan was to place the rook on the h file and the king can escape on the check. but great sac from Larsen (who said that the sac was not that hard to see!) |
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Aug-30-08
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| chancho: From the March of Chess Ideas:
<25.Qxg6!!>
<A rustle of excitement spreads through the audience-Larsen> <has sacrificed his Queen against the World Champion!>
<The worshipper of Caissa can make no greater offering than to part with the powerful lady of his chessboard army.
The sacrifice of the Queen is a recurrent theme in Larsen's games.
It must have for him a potent symbolic meaning.> Anthony Saidy |
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| Oct-13-08 |
| TheWizardfromHarlem: whats the genius in 20. e5 ? was he expecting him to make a mistake with 20...dxe5 then 21 Nf6+ winning the queen...because i dont see any lines or files being opened by the pawn sac that were used in the attack the square wasnt used for any of Larsens pieces so what was the motive behind it?!? was it just for the tempo? |
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| Oct-13-08 |
| gus inn: <The Wizard..> 20.e5! forces Petrosian to take with the bishop.Hence gaining an all
important tempo for the attack.Making the black king naked for while.So in a way it is more than a tempo.And it is fully justified when Larsen says that this pawnsac is much more difficult to find than the later (decisive)Queensac.
But somehow the broader audience finds Queensacs more attractive than pawndo. |
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| Jan-10-09 |
| WhiteRook48: what a game! Petrosian falls into a mate in 4: 31. Rh3+ Bh6 32. Rxh6+ Kg8 33. Rfh7+ Kf8 34. Rh8+ Kg7 35. Bd4#!! |
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| Feb-07-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Petrosian accused his opponent of cheating |
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| Feb-20-09 |
| MarbleSkull: 15. Nc5 would have saved Petrosian three moves. It also would have allowed for an early e6, which no doubt would have failed him worse than this because I'm a patzer. Still, it looks like it would've solved some of his problems. |
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| May-01-09 |
| WhiteRook48: and that was Larseny |
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