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| Jun-02-06 | | better: <some ad-hoc routine> Exactly the same as humans. No one knows what is the best move anyway, in 99% of cases. And it depends on who the opponent is, doesn't it? If the opponent is somewhat weaker than you and a less-than-brilliant defender, then ultra-aggressive is what wins the game. With the theoretical "best move", you may end up drawing. Anyway, I just brought it up in response to Dr.B's thought that it might whitewash Topalov. |
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| Jun-14-06 | | h1a8: Everyone is forgeting that there are positions in chess that one can either draw or be clearly losing (especially in many closed positions). Sometimes there are no inbetweens. Thus if a human can create or luckily come across such a position then Hydra will most likely draw (instead of clearly losing). Thus, Hydra as black must get some draws eventually against a very strong human. |
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| Jun-14-06 | | Dionyseus: We'll be able to get an idea of who is stronger, Hydra or Rybka 2, this Friday. http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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| Jun-17-06 | | Dionyseus: Hydra just blew a simple win in its third round game today.
In this position, Hydra, or rather its handler, played the horrible 51.b5??:
click for larger view51.bxc5 wins easily! For example if 51...d5, 52.Kd4 wins the d pawn. If 51...dxc5, white wins wiht 52.Kd3 Kd5 53.a4 c4+ 54.Kc3 Kc5 55.a5 and black must chase the a pawn:
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obvious win for white |
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| Jun-17-06 | | Dionyseus: The handler gave Hydra only 21 seconds on the 51st move, despite the fact he had over 14 minutes left on his clock. I showed Zor_Champ my variation, and after some initial confusion he agreed that my line wins by force. |
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| Jun-17-06 | | s4life: <better: <some ad-hoc routine> Exactly the same as humans. No one knows what is the best move anyway, in 99% of cases> Up to a certain depth, computers know exactly which one is the best move. |
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| Jun-17-06 | | LoFarkas: Yeah, so do I. Unfortunately, that depth is 1 ply... |
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| Jun-17-06 | | Dionyseus: Three draws today for Hydra, so after 5 rounds from this 8 round qualifier it has 3/5 so it'll start tomorrow's round at around 20th+ place, and it needs to finish in the top 8 to qualify, doesn't look like it'll happen. |
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| Jun-18-06 | | Dionyseus: Hydra scored 2.5 out of 3 today to finish with 5.5/8, so it will be able to play in the tiebreaks next weekend. 12 players tied with 5.5, and only the top 4 in the tiebreakers will be able to advance to the finals. |
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| Jun-25-06 | | Dionyseus: Hydra was eliminated in the tiebreaks because it didn't show up. The tournament director said that they first sent a letter telling Hydra that it would get a Bye on the first leg of the tiebreaks and would play on Sunday. But a second email was sent correcting the mistake, saying that Hydra will play in the first leg of the tiebreaks on Saturday. A participant however said that the tournament director told him Hydra had confirmed its participation. Sucks, I wanted to see how it'd fare against the top Rybkas, oh well. |
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| Aug-22-06 | | UnderdogBA: In response to the earlier commentary criticizing the handler for not giving the machine enough time -- are there any reasonable implementations of having the machine handle it's own time out there? |
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| Sep-25-06 | | lion crater: i can't wait to see the new updated hydra in action. it will kill all in its path |
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| Sep-25-06 | | lion crater: i can't wait to see the new updated hydra in action. it will kill all in its path |
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| Oct-15-06 | | Lt. Col. Majid: This Hydra plays some dangerous chess, scary. |
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| Oct-21-06 | | Dionyseus: Hydra's loss to Ibermax today in the 4th Freestyle tournament finals, round 5: [Event "4th PAL-CSS Freestyle Tournament Finals round 5"]
[Site "playchess.com #078752"]
[Date "2006.10.21"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "Ibermax"]
[Black "zor_champ"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C97"]
[WhiteElo "2448"]
[BlackElo "2615"]
[PlyCount "151"]
[EventDate "2006.10.21"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 c5 11. d4 Qc7 12. Nbd2 Rd8 13. b3 Bd7 14. Nf1 h6 15. Ne3 Be6 16. Bb2 Rac8 17. d5 Bd7 18. Qd2 Re8 19. c4 Rb8 20. Bc3 Bd8 21. Rab1 Nh5 22. a3 Kh7 23. Kh2 Nf6 24. Nh4 g6 25. Nf3 Qb6 26. Kg1 Kg7 27. Red1 Kh7 28. Qe1 Qc7 29. Nh2 Kg8 30. Qd2 Kg7 31. Rf1 bxc4 32. bxc4 Rxb1 33. Rxb1 Kh7 34. Bd3 h5 35. Nf3 Kg8 36. Qc2 Nh7 37. Be2 Bc8 38. Bd1 Rf8 39. Qd2 Nb7 40. Nf1 Na5 41. Nxe5 dxe5 42. d6 Qc6 43. Bxa5 Qxe4 44. Bc2 Bxa5 45. Bxe4 Bxd2 46. Nxd2 Rd8 47. Rb8 Nf8 48. Bb7 Rxd6 49. Rxc8 Rxd2 50. Rxc5 Ra2 51. Ra5 Ne6 52. Bxa6 Kg7 53. Bb7 Kf6 54. Ra6 h4 55. Bd5 Ra1+ 56. Kh2 Kf5 57. Bxe6+ fxe6 58. c5 Rc1 59. c6 e4 60. a4 Rc2 61. Rb6 Ke5 62. Rb5+ Kd6 63. Rb4 Kd5 64. a5 Rxc6 65. Ra4 Rc7 66. a6 Ra7 67. g3 g5 68. Kg2 Kd6 69. g4 Ke5 70. Kf1 Kf4 71. Ke2 e5 72. Kf1 Kf3 73. Ra3+ Kf4 74. Kg2 e3 75. fxe3+ Ke4 76. Kf2 1-0 |
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| Oct-21-06 | | notyetagm: <Dionyseus> In the words of Chernev, 73 ♖a3+! ♔f4 74 ♔g2! is <ZUGZWANG> with a capital Z:
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| Oct-21-06 | | Assassinater: And another loss:
Xakru (2502) - zor_champ (2589)
4th PAL-CSS Freestyle Tournament round 6 playchess.com #078775 (1.1), 21.10.2006 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 c6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Qc2 Bd6 7.g4 dxc4 8.Bxc4 e5 9.g5 Nd5 10.Ne4 Bc7 11.Bd2 exd4 12.Nxd4 0-0 13.0-0-0 Ne5 14.Be2 Re8 15.h4 Ng4 16.Bf3 Bb6 17.Rhg1 Nh2 18.Be2 Qe7 19.Nf6+ Nxf6 20.gxf6 Qxf6 21.Be1 Bc7 22.Bc3 Qxf2 23.Nf5 Qxf5 24.Rxg7+ Kf8 25.Bd3 Qf3 26.Bxh7 Bg4 27.Rg5 Ke7 28.Bb4+ Ke6 29.Qc4+ Kf6 30.Bc3+ Re5 31.Re1 Bh3 32.Bc2 Rd8 33.Qf4+ Qxf4 34.exf4 Nf3 35.fxe5+ Ke7 36.Bb4+ Ke6 37.Bb3+ Rd5 38.Bxd5+ cxd5 39.Rg3 Nxe1 40.Rxh3 Ng2 41.Bd2 Bxe5 42.h5 zor_champ resigns (Lag: Av=0.67s, max=3.5s) 1-0 Anyone care to annotate this one? :P |
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| Oct-21-06 | | notyetagm: Two questions:
1) What is the playchess.com server command to find zor_champ's games? In an ICC command window I would type <history zor_champ> and get a popup window containing the most recent 20 games played by zor_champ. But I do not know how to do this on playchess.com. 2) Wow, two losses for zor_chump, I mean, zor_champ today! What engine were Xakru and Ibermax using, Rybka right? |
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| Oct-22-06 | | Dionyseus: Hydra loses again against Rybka 2.1omp:
[Event "4th PAL-CSS Freestyle Tournament – Fina"]
[Site "playchess.com #078858"]
[Date "2006.10.22"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "Nebula, Rybka 2.1o mp"]
[Black "Zor_champ"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C99"]
[WhiteElo "2484"]
[BlackElo "2560"]
[PlyCount "116"]
[EventDate "2006.10.22"]
[EventType "match (rapid)"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3
O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 c5 11. d4 Qc7 12. Nbd2 cxd4 13. cxd4 Nc6 14. Nb3 a5 15.
Be3 a4 16. Nbd2 Nb4 17. Bb1 Bd7 18. a3 Nc6 19. Bd3 Na5 20. Qe2 Qb8 21. Rac1 Re8
22. Rc2 h6 23. Rec1 Bd8 24. dxe5 dxe5 25. Nh4 Bb6 26. Nf5 b4 27. Rd1 Bxf5 28.
exf5 Bxe3 29. Qxe3 Nb3 30. Ne4 Nd5 31. Qg3 Rd8 32. Bc4 Nf4 33. Rxd8+ Qxd8 34.
f6 g6 35. Bxb3 axb3 36. Qxb3 bxa3 37. bxa3 Rb8 38. Rd2 Qc7 39. Qd1 Ne6 40. Rc2
Qa7 41. Qc1 Kh7 42. Kh2 Ra8 43. Rc3 Rd8 44. f3 Qa4 45. Qb1 Qa7 46. h4 Kg8 47.
Rc6 Qd4 48. Qc2 g5 49. hxg5 hxg5 50. a4 Qd1 51. Qf2 Qd5 52. Qb6 Ra8 53. a5 g4
54. Qb7 Rf8 55. a6 Qa2 56. Rb6 gxf3 57. Rb2 Qa1 58. a7 Qc1 1-0 |
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| Oct-22-06 | | notyetagm: <Dionyseus> So Hydra has lost to 3(!) Rybkas! Wow, that is some advertisment for Rybka. Adams couldn't beat Hydra once but Rybka has done it three striaght times! |
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| Oct-22-06 | | Dionyseus: Looks like Hydra is losing yet another game to Rybka 2.1o, I'll post pgn once the game is done. |
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| Oct-22-06 | | Dionyseus: Hydra lost yet again to Rybka 2.1o, ending up last place with only 3 out of 9 points. [Event "4th PAL-CSS Freestyle Tournament – Fina"]
[Site "playchess.com #078877"]
[Date "2006.10.22"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "Zor_champ"]
[Black "Icy45, Rybka 2.1o mp"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B72"]
[WhiteElo "2538"]
[BlackElo "2466"]
[PlyCount "124"]
[EventDate "2006.10.22"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be2 Bg7 7. Be3 Nc6 8.
Qd2 O-O 9. O-O-O Nxd4 10. Bxd4 Be6 11. Kb1 Qa5 12. a3 Rab8 13. f4 Rfc8 14. Rhe1
b5 15. Nd5 Qxd2 16. Rxd2 Bxd5 17. exd5 Ne4 18. Rdd1 Nc5 19. Bg4 f5 20. Bf3 Bxd4
21. Rxd4 Kf7 22. c3 a5 23. Kc2 Rc7 24. Ra1 Nd7 25. g3 Rc4 26. Rxc4 bxc4 27. Rd1
Rb5 28. Be2 Rc5 29. Bf3 Nb6 30. Kc1 Kf6 31. Rd4 h6 32. h3 Kg7 33. Kc2 Rb5 34.
Kc1 Kf6 35. Rd2 g5 36. Rd4 Kg6 37. Rd2 Kf7 38. Bh5+ Kf6 39. Bf3 Kg6 40. Rd4 Rc5
41. Kc2 Kh7 42. Bg2 g4 43. Kc1 h5 44. h4 Kg6 45. Rd2 Kg7 46. Rd1 Kf7 47. Rd4
Kf6 48. Rd1 Rc8 49. Bf1 Nd7 50. Rd4 Nc5 51. Bxc4 Ne4 52. Bd3 Nxg3 53. Kd2 Nh1
54. Ke3 Rg8 55. Be2 Ng3 56. Bd3 Ne4 57. Bxe4 fxe4 58. Kxe4 g3 59. Rd1 g2 60.
Rg1 a4 61. Ke3 Kf5 62. Kf3 Rg4 0-1
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| Oct-22-06 | | notyetagm: <Dionyseus> Good Lord, Hydra lost four(!) games to Rybka! Seems like Rybka 2.1o is just much stronger than Hydra. Astounding. |
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| Oct-24-06 | | llauro: Yes, since the Rybka has become MultiProcessor and can run in 4 or 8 highspeed (Intel) cores, it seems it's enough to crush the 32 or 64 1-or-2-year old CPUs with a (it seems) simple brute forze program. I think Zor_Champ should have used Rybka 2.1o if wanted to win the FreeStyle :) It's a pitty we will never see a Kramnik-Rybka or Topalov-Rybka or anyhuman-Rybka match. After this result, Hydra should became opensource to try to catch the Rybka! |
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| Oct-25-06 | | ahmadov: But why there is not game of Hydra vs Rybka in this database? I cannot believe that Rybka is stronger than Hydra. |
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