<"It was Mr. J. H. Blake who won the world's tourney of the British Counties Chess Association ... from experts such as Mills, Bird, Thorold, Pollock, MacDonnell and Locock, and as the tourney was open to the world, he should be greeted, according to the arguments of certain editors, as the champion of the world, as we remarked last week. Reductio ab absurdum applies to championships as well as to Euclid's theorems.">

Seven participants (Blake, Mills, Bird, Thorold, Pollock, Macdonnel and Locock) and Blake scored 5 points followed by Mills with 4 points while Bird and Thorold shared 3rd place.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Nxe4 6. d4 b5 7. Bb3 d5 8. dxe5 Be6 9. c3 Be7 10. Nbd2 O-O 11. Re1 Nc5 12. Nd4 Nxd4 13. cxd4 Nd3 14. Re3 Nf4 15. Nf1 Rc8 16. Rg3 Ng6 17. f4 f6 18. Bc2 fxe5 19. fxe5 Bh4 20. Rf3 Bg4 21. Rxf8+ Qxf8 22. Qd2 Qf7 23. g3 Rf8 24. Qe1 Bh3 25. Be3 Qf3 26. Qf2 Qg4 27. Qd2 Bxg3 28. Nxg3 Nh4 29. Qe2 Rf3 30. Kh1 Rxg3 31. Qxg4 Rxg4 32. Bb3 c6 33. Rc1 Rg6 34. Bf2 Bg2+ 35. Kg1 Nf3# 0-1

<Sally Simpson>

I was looking at this game on the game processing page, but it has some pgn errors.

If I processed your pgn as is, it would create a new player called "Reginald, P Michell" or P. Michell Reginald." Or maybe even something else...

We need to look up the player names at cg.com before spelling them in our pgns. We should use the exact form of the name already in use.

So in this case, either of these spellings would produce the existing name in our database, : Reginald Pryce Michell :

[White "Michell, Reginald Pryce"]

[White "Reginald Pryce Michell"]

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Your spelling on the other player also does not match the existing spelling of Joseph Henry Blake .

[Black "Blake, Joseph, H"] Would create a new player name with a different spelling.

You need to write this as:

[Black "Blake, Joseph Henry"]

[Black "Joseph Henry Blake"]

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Before submitting any more games, please carefully read all of the instructions on this page: PGN Upload Utility

I find the example pgn <Daniel Freeman> provided for us to be particularly useful:

<The following PGN is provided as an example: [Event "London Match"]
[Site "London ENG"]
[Date "1866.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "6"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Bird, Henry E"]
[Black "Steinitz, Wilhelm"]
[ECO "A02"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[Source "New York Spirit of the Times, 1866"]

1.f4 e5 2.fxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.d4 Nc6 6.Bg5 Bg4 7.e3 Qd7 8.Bxf6 gxf6 9.Bb5 O-O-O 10.d5 Qe7 11.Bxc6 Qxe3+ 12.Qe2 Qc1+ 13.Qd1 Rde8+ 14.Bxe8 Rxe8+ 15.Kf2 Qe3+ 16.Kf1 Bxf3 17.gxf3 Bc5 18.Kg2 Rg8+ 0-1 >

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Thank you replying. I have successfully submitted a lot of games before it is only recently there has been a problem. (maybe there was an error before and it was corrected.)

I did use the example and you say

My ["Blake, Joseph, H"]

Should be [Black "Joseph Henry Blake"]

Which I did have at first.

<Geoff> You are making progress, but still missing one of the most important steps.

Every name in every pgn has to be checked against the existing name in cg.com- every single time. Usually this is easy to do, though time consuming, by looking up the player's surname from the cg.com search page. It's not always so easy though, it can take a bit of work sometimes. But we all do this work because we can't have players listed with multiple, differently spelled "identities."

One of the main reasons this is so important is because from time to time, the editors decide to alter a player's name.

So in the case of <Henry E Bird>- that player name was long ago changed to Henry Bird .

Today, if you enter ["Bird, Henry E"] then you will create a second player name for the same player- <Henry E Bird>. The sample pgn was created by <Daniel Freeman> many years ago, so it cannot be relied upon to list current sample player names. When Daniel created the sample, we did indeed have <Henry E Bird> as that player's name- but no longer. The only reliable way to check for an existing player name is to use the search page.

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I can only report for myself, but probably the main reason many of your previous submissions have been processed is because an editor has fixed any mistakes that may have been in your pgn before processing it.

I have processed several of your games in the past, and in just about every case I needed to edit something in your pgn before processing it.

The bottom line is that if you want to submit games to cg.com, you do need to practice creating a pgn until you learn how to do it correctly yourself.

Feel free to call on me at any time with any questions. Say you have completed a pgn- you could post it in my forum, and I would be happy to check it. If there are any mistakes we can discuss them, and eventually you will remember how to construct a pgn that will process correctly every time.

Looking for little things is important-

["Blake, Joseph, H"] has an extra comma in it. If processed, it would make a (strange) new player name that actually included a comma.

And not your fault obviously that no actual admin or owner could be arsed to keep that "sample pgn" template updated and current eh?

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Just to make sure this is clear- there are two forms of syntax that will be read correctly in the name tag.

Let's take Joseph Henry Blake as an example.

Either of these tags will process correctly:

[Black "Joseph Henry Blake"]

I was correct but changed it to follow the one in the example.

I see the Blake game has still not been added. I only subbed it because Sir Ivanhoe has been waiting for this game in his game collection.

Game Collection: Chess by Yourself - Reinfeld (see game 2)

I have to assume he has subbed it and got it wrong as well.

He last posted on here 9 years ago but is still about, his last visit was on the 30th Jan this year. (it's also a good game.)

<Geoff> I will process your game now, and post the pgn in here as an illustration...

Here is the pgn as it is now on the Processing Page:

[Event "City of London Club-ch"]
[Site "London"]
[Date "1920.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Michell, Reginald, Pryce"]
[Black "Blake, Joseph, Henry"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Source "Game 2, 'Learn Chess from the Masters' by Fred Reinfeld."]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Nxe4 6. d4 b5 7. Bb3 d5 8. dxe5 Be6 9. c3 Be7 10. Nbd2 O-O 11. Re1 Nc5 12. Nd4 Nxd4 13. cxd4 Nd3 14. Re3 Nf4 15. Nf1 Rc8 16. Rg3 Ng6 17. f4 f6 18. Bc2 fxe5 19. fxe5 Bh4 20. Rf3 Bg4 21. Rxf8+ Qxf8 22. Qd2 Qf7 23. g3 Rf8 24. Qe1 Bh3 25. Be3 Qf3 26. Qf2 Qg4 27. Qd2 Bxg3 28. Nxg3 Nh4 29. Qe2 Rf3 30. Kh1 Rxg3 31. Qxg4 Rxg4 32. Bb3 c6 33. Rc1 Rg6 34. Bf2 Bg2+ 35. Kg1 Nf3# 0-1*

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Here is the pgn after I edited it:

[Event "City of London Club-ch"]
[Site "London ENG"]
[Date "1920.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Michell, Reginald Pryce"]
[Black "Blake, Joseph Henry"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Source "Game 2, 'Learn Chess from the Masters' by Fred Reinfeld"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Nxe4 6. d4 b5 7. Bb3 d5 8. dxe5 Be6 9. c3 Be7 10. Nbd2 O-O 11. Re1 Nc5 12. Nd4 Nxd4 13. cxd4 Nd3 14. Re3 Nf4 15. Nf1 Rc8 16. Rg3 Ng6 17. f4 f6 18. Bc2 fxe5 19. fxe5 Bh4 20. Rf3 Bg4 21. Rxf8+ Qxf8 22. Qd2 Qf7 23. g3 Rf8 24. Qe1 Bh3 25. Be3 Qf3 26. Qf2 Qg4 27. Qd2 Bxg3 28. Nxg3 Nh4 29. Qe2 Rf3 30. Kh1 Rxg3 31. Qxg4 Rxg4 32. Bb3 c6 33. Rc1 Rg6 34. Bf2 Bg2+ 35. Kg1 Nf3# 0-1

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Here is the processed game:

R P Michell vs J H Blake, 1920

Notice how many of the fields are filled in automatically by cg.com software- you can see the fields I filled out in the pgn, but if you click "view" on the published game, you will see all the blank fields have been filled in by the processor.

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The only real error in your original pgn was to include an extra comma in each player name. In addition, I added "ENG" to the site tag, deleted an unnecessary period at the end of the source tag, and deleted the * at the end of the game score.

All the other guys will jealous I'm getting personal instruction. (please tell me I'm not the only one who subs bad PGN's.)

I use chesspdad http://www.wmlsoftware.com/chesspad... for noting up games on blogs, columns in magazines, articles and for posting here. It's perfect.

(it has an edit PGN function that is probably OK, at the moment it is pilot error.)

Notepad adds a '*' at the end of each game. I usually take it out. Now I know I MUST.

<Geoff> It's my pleasure to be able to help. When I first started uploading games I had a lot of help from fellow members.