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| Jan-06-08 | | timhortons: 
click for larger view instead of taking the pawn at e4 the queen shufflr back and forth at f6 and g6...considering benjamins role in fine tuning deep blue in his match with kasparov these machine hes dealing is better than the one he prepared for kasyparov...deep blue was made design special for kasparov..> |
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| Jan-06-08 | | minasina: Rybka (Computer) vs Joel Benjamin II - Match at Draw Odds' (Jan-03-08 ... Jan-06-08) L I V E
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http://www.chessok.com/broadcast/li... Click on '2008', then 'Draw odd match' and 'Live' and 7th game. |
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| Jan-06-08 | | minasina: Rybka (Computer) vs Joel Benjamin II - Match at Draw Odds' (Jan-03-08 ... Jan-06-08) STARTING L I V E
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http://www.chessok.com/broadcast/li... Click on '2008', then 'Draw odd match' and 'Live' and 8th game. (More information: http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybka... ) |
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Feb-29-08
 | | HeMateMe: Joel, (1) could you log in and leave us some thoughts about your auto bio "American Grandmaster", and (2) Does Kasparov get the "weanie award" for being a bad sport after being defeated by Deep Blue? |
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| Mar-11-08 | | DarthStapler: I recently read part of this guy's autobiography, it was quite good. |
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Jun-04-08
 | | ketchuplover: There's a review of American Grandmaster at chessville.com |
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Jun-19-08
| | HeMateMe: I bought it, gonna donate it to the library. I hate it when a library doesn't have any chess books, so I give away some of my extra stuff. |
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| Jun-19-08 | | Jim Bartle: Worse than no chess books in the library is having just a few ancient, dry, dull books with titles like "Chess Technique," which only drive newcomers away. |
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Jun-19-08
| | HeMateMe: Really, sometimes just some old Fred Reinfield stuff with food stains on the books, very depressing. I keep reference books, but give away biographies and stuff that seems repetitive. |
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| Feb-04-09 | | whiteshark: Quote of the Day
" A few months after all the work I did on the Deep Blue project, at the US Championship, I thought <miserable Earthlings, you have no chance against me!> " -- Joel Benjamin |
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| Feb-04-09 | | Alphastar: Benjamin kidnapped Elvis? |
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| Mar-11-09 | | blacksburg: oh jeez, is he really wearing a tie with chess pieces on it? i don't know how the ladies are going to feel about that, Joel. |
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| Mar-11-09 | | sallom89: <oh jeez, is he really wearing a tie with chess pieces on it? i don't know how the ladies are going to feel about that, Joel.> LOL, I just realised that!:D |
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| Mar-11-09 | | wordfunph: Happy Birthday GM Joel Benjamin!!! I have your book "American Grandmaster"...a good read coz of funny anecdotes. |
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Apr-19-09
| | HeMateMe: Benjamin has had a long and interesting career. He coached Ireland's Olympiad team a few years ago. He's married to a girl from Ireland. I guess he no longer plays in the US closed championships. In his book, I like the chapter where he mentions his first experience with Kasparov. He said that the teenage Kaspy was playing blitz for money at the Junior World Championships, I think at odds of 5 minutes to 3, and winning. Benjamin mentions a Wijk an Zee (CORUS) tournament, when Kasparov won every single game with white (except a game against Benjamin) and won the tournament. JB says he has the scoresheet framed, hanging on his living room wall. Benjamin said that he (JB) wasn't winning enough games to get to play Kasparov. I didn't know Kaspy even played in the juniors. It seems like he went very quickly up to IM and GM status. |
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| Aug-04-09 | | HannibalSchlecter: By refusing to give the logs of Deep Blue to Kasparov your IBM team sunk to such lows I have forever boycotted buying their products. Do you honestly in your right mind think looking at the thinking process of a computer computing millions of moves a second could be of any use for a human to try and get an advantage?? That was the lamest excuse ever. Shame on your guys for your deplorable sportsmanship. |
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Aug-04-09
| | HeMateMe: It wasn't Benjamin's decision to make. He was in charge of setting up DP's opening book, and checking other areas of Blue's performance, with some help from Fed and Nick DeFirmian. Shouldn't matter. Any Blue games played were available, although there were probably only a few. He lost, and youz kin take dat to da bank. |
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| Aug-04-09 | | Jim Bartle: Is that true? Kasparov had the opportunity to review Deep Blue's games, including training games? |
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Aug-05-09
| | HeMateMe: I read a couple of books about the match, years ago. One by Feng Sui, the Carnegie Mellon grad student who oversaw the project, and one by an outsider. I don't think they allowed the training games to be seen. If there were any public games, they were available. I don't think it would have mattered. The best player will win. Rybka and Hydra's games are all overthe place, and they are mostly unbeatable. I thought it was interesting that Feng Sui, the chief developer of the project, is a very strong player himself. When these software programs were around 2400, he was still "competitive" with them, but was run off the board against the version that Kasparov played. I've never understood why IBM didn't allow a rematch, even for less money, or whatever. They would have been favored, perhaps even more so than in the first match. And another round against Kaspy, who gives instant star wattage, would have just brought more free publicity to IBM. In his book "American Grandmaster", Benjamin explains about how happy he was with getting this high paying gig for a year or so, working in New Jersey, refining Deep Blue. Most chess players don't make IBM money, especially semi retired ones. |
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| Aug-05-09 | | Jim Bartle: Interesting stuff. I'd really like to read that book. Now I don't know how it would be with such a powerful program as Deep Blue, especially if programmers are constantly tinkering with it, but it seems to me in general if a player can look at lots and lots of its games, he can find some weaknesses. |
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Aug-05-09
| | HeMateMe: I think they still make mistakes in closed or semi closed positions. But GM wins against the best software are now few and far between. Maybe 10 years ago Kaspy could have reasoned some things out from the training games/and the logs of the codes. He would be the one guy to do it. But the money would have been on big blue. my first chess computer was from fidelity electronics, 30 years ago. the computer and board came together, in one unit. I think at its best, it could play at 1800,if you gave it three minutes per move. the last one I bought was about 10 years ago, it had a top rating of 2300, I couldnt give it a decent game. |
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| Aug-05-09 | | Jim Bartle: " I think they still make mistakes in closed or semi closed positions." Probably true. Which brings up something I wondered about during the 97 match: Kasparov was the world's best player, but was he the best at these sort of closed, maneuvering games? It certainly wasn't his typical style. |
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| Aug-05-09 | | HannibalSchlecter: It was not Benjamin's decision to make however he was adamant in defending the decision as can be seen in the documentary "game Over." |
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Aug-05-09
| | HeMateMe: I saw the movie, too. I think they are correct, because the 'logs' are the computer's inner workings, not its record against people or other software programs. Its private property. Like all World Champions, Kasparov has a pretty big ego, and it made him look bad in this one instance. |
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Aug-05-09
 | | JointheArmy: <HeMateMe> *Sigh* Not this s*&* again. The issue wasn't the ethical question of whether or not IBM would hand over the logs, it was IBM AGREED to hand over the logs since Kasparov already booked a ticket out of New York forfeiting the match. IBM agreed to let Kasparov have them after the match was over. It took years before they were even made public and no one even knows if they were tampered with given the allotted time they weren't handed over. |
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