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OhioChessFan
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______________ Moves Prediction Contest

<Main Focus>: Predicting how many moves in a game for each pairing.

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==4 Different Scoring Methods==

Standard Moves Ranker (1st place-Over[3pts], 1st place-Under [7pts], Exact [10pts])

Bonus Ranker (3rd place-Over[1pts],2nd place-Over[2pts],3rd place-Under [5pts], 2nd place-Under [6pts]

Standard Moves/Bonus Ranker [Add all to together]

1st place Ranker [how many 1st place you have in Standard Moves Ranker]

For example:

<Note: Participants 3, 4, and 5 are predicated on nobody scoring an exact as Participant 2 did. If someone hits an exact, the closest score under and over will score the points for second place.>

Actual Game: [player]-[player] 0-1 45

Participant 1: [player]-[player] 1/2 45
Participant 2: [player]-[player] 0-1 45
Participant 3: [player]-[player] 0-1 44
Participant 4: [player]-[player] 0-1 43
Participant 5: [player]-[player] 0-1 46

Participant 1: No points even though 45 is correct. Results must be correct. If Result is wrong and moves # is correct...you get no points whatsoever

Participant 2: 10 pts rewarded for correct Result/moves #

Participant 3: 7 pts rewarded for closest under (1st-Under) to 45 moves

Participant 4: 6 pts rewarded for the 2nd closest under (2nd-Under) to 45 moves.

Participant 5: 3 pts rewarded closest OVER(1st-OVER) to 45 moves.

Again, the description of Participant 3, 4, and 5 are based on there being no exact prediction as made by Participant 2.

<IF> there is an exact or an under closest, the highest scoring over participant will be 2nd over. The second closest over will be 3rd over. The <ONLY> time there will be a first over is if there is no exact or under winner.

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   Nov-22-25 Miles vs Andersson, 1980
 
OhioChessFan: Offbeat opening, I didn't have a clue what was going on. Miles crushed the h file.
 
   Nov-22-25 Chessgames - Music
 
OhioChessFan: Four best harmony songs I know: Blackbyrds-Walking in Rhythm https://youtu.be/Vxg-a8a2UuY?si=cph... Beach Boys-Sloop John B https://youtu.be/nSAoEf1Ib58?si=nS6... Eagles-Seven Bridges Road https://youtu.be/73x16ne6auo?si=NVC... Earth Wind and Fire-September ...
 
   Nov-21-25 Chessgames - Politics (replies)
 
OhioChessFan: Best singer in a band is Freddie Mercury. Best woman singer in a band is Grace Slick. Best singer ever is Sam Cooke. Best female ever is Aretha Franklin. Quick takes on some others mentioned: Dylan is painfully bad. Sinatra is off key 75% of the time. Jim Croce had the best ...
 
   Nov-21-25 S J Stevens vs Gracie, 1878
 
OhioChessFan: White to make his 18th move would be a decent Tuesday puzzle.
 
   Nov-21-25 A Niyibizi vs Cheda, 2014 (replies)
 
OhioChessFan: Amusing pun. Patience paid off.
 
   Nov-19-25 W Hug vs Korchnoi, 1978 (replies)
 
OhioChessFan: 18. Ne4 opened up the middle to Black's Queen and LSB. 18. Nb1 was fine.
 
   Nov-18-25 S P Sethuraman vs C Anto, 2025
 
OhioChessFan: <redundant> I never noticed that. I had 5 semesters of college German so I have a basic knowledge of the language. I guess the different languages of "time" in the same sentence render it acceptable. Monty Python just doesn't work for me. I like maybe 10% of their stuff.
 
   Nov-14-25 McShane vs I Samunenkov, 2025
 
OhioChessFan: Nice analysis from Mikhail Golubev https://www.chess.com/blog/MikhailG...
 
   Nov-14-25 Mikhail Golubev
 
OhioChessFan: I just played over the Samunenkov game. What do you think of the Petroff in general? Do you need to be booked up on the latest lines or can you just rely on general principles?
 
   Nov-14-25 V Biliy vs V Golovach, 2003
 
OhioChessFan: Wildly entertaining game that lasted a long time with an odd material imbalance. 41...Ke5 was losing, as it gave up the skewer on the two Rooks on the long diagonal. 41...Kd7 would have been fine.
 
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Moves Prediction Contest

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Aug-23-18  DerDiemer: <<DD> will start minding his own business>. <OCF>, i will start minding my own business. See you got a very big issue here with me, you got very bad manners bra, do your mother know you here ???

Just play the game, not the man. "Jys n regte njamao, masipahao, umshumiwami jou etter"

Aug-23-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  juan31: ROUND 6

Nakamura - Aronian 0-1 45
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1/2 40
Caruana - Karjakin 1/2 39
Grischuk - Carlsen 1/2 38
So - Anand 0-1 45

Aug-23-18  WinKing: Man, that <OCF> sure is a meany isn't he <DerDiemer>? lol But don't worry I have the men in their white coats bringing the situation under control. Pretty soon <OCF> will be singing this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fn...

I'd of loved to hear Elvis sing this one!

Aug-24-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Round 6:

Nakamura - Aronian 0-1 40
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1/2-1/2 40
Caruana - Karjakin 1/2-1/2 40
Grischuk - Carlsen 1/2-1/2 40
So - Anand 1/2-1/2 40

Aug-24-18  chessmoron: Nakamura - Aronian 1/2 37
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1/2 41
Caruana - Karjakin 1-0 42
Grischuk - Carlsen 1/2-1/2 38
So - Anand 1/2-1/2 39
Aug-24-18  Count Wedgemore: Hi there, <OCF>. I repost my response to your recent post in Team White vs Team Black, 2017 here in your forum. I am interested in yours and others take on this, since many of the best Chessbookie players also play in the Moves Prediction Contest.

<OCF: I had my suspicions, but the fact he participated in team games, which was against the rules, and won Caissars, which was likewise against the rules,>

He played the Chessbookie game as well. I noticed <Sneaky>'s name among the participants just last leg, and the one before that. This made me have a look at the ChessBookie Hall of Fame page, and I see that he ended up in the Top Ten several times: most notably he took 3rd place in the Championship leg in 2015, and 4th in the 2010 Championship. So he's been close to winning the whole thing.

This was clearly a bit unethical. I mean, as I understand it, he often put up events to bet on in the game, helping out and supplementing the bookie and/or substituting for the bookie. And surely he had access to see what (and how much) the other players were betting on. I find this to be a bit disconcerting.

Me personally, I admit that If I had been around here almost since the beginning, like so many of you guys here have, I would have felt a bit let down, and not found this whole <Sneaky> business to be just charming and amusing. Quite frankly, I understand if some of you also feel a bit disappointed. This doesn't take away all the great qualities this remarkable person had, of course.

<..but I wonder if he had ever intended to come clean in a public manner.>

I seriously doubt that.

Aug-24-18  Golden Executive: Round 6:

Nakamura - Aronian 1/2 37
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1/2 36
Caruana - Karjakin 1/2 37
Grischuk - Carlsen 1/2 37
So - Anand 1/2 36

Aug-24-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Round 6:

Nakamura - Aronian 1/2 42
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1-0 44
Caruana - Karjakin 1/2 32
Grischuk - Carlsen 1/2 40
So - Anand 1/2 43

Aug-24-18  wordfunph: Round 6:

Nakamura - Aronian 0-1 46
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1-0 48
Caruana - Karjakin 1-0 46
Grischuk - Carlsen 0-1 48
So - Anand 0-1 46

Aug-24-18  AlphaXerox: Round 6:
Nakamura - Aronian 1/2 36
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1/2 39
Caruana - Karjakin 1-0 43
Grischuk - Carlsen 1/2 32
So - Anand 1/2 32
Aug-24-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp:
Round 6:

Nakamura - Aronian 0-1 62
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1/2 29
Caruana - Karjakin 1/2 38
Grischuk - Carlsen 0-1 56
So - Anand 1-0 40

Aug-24-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: Nakamura - Aronian 1/2 40
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1/2 41
Caruana - Karjakin 1-0 45
Grischuk - Carlsen 0-1 43
So - Anand 1/2 38
Aug-24-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: <Count: Me personally, I admit that If I had been around here almost since the beginning, like so many of you guys here have, I would have felt a bit let down, and not found this whole <Sneaky> business to be just charming and amusing. Quite frankly, I understand if some of you also feel a bit disappointed. This doesn't take away all the great qualities this remarkable person had, of course.>

I don't know. I'm a bit surprised to think about the ChessBookie issue now that you bring it up. As one example, if he placed in a spot that would otherwise generate a prize, then that strikes me as sort of unfair. Of course, he's the one handing out those very prizes in the first place. I'm wavering on this, but still lean toward charming and amusing. He rarely enforced the site rules, so that he didn't apply them to himself is at least consistent.

I kind of want to say something like "It's no big deal, it's just a game, blah blah blah", but I happen to be boycotting the game at <GE's> place this tournament in protest of some lousy stuff a couple people did last time. I guess it's a waste of time as not a single person seems to have noticed. In any case, that does tell me these contests do mean something to me, and should be conducted with some sense of propriety. I don't know. If I had known for sure and knew him in real life, I'd have at least said something like "I don't think that's too cool" and left it at that. No sleep lost here is my final answer.

Aug-24-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: <DD>, when you read my recaps, here's two things you can be sure I'm serious about:

1. The scores
2. How many rounds are left

Everything else is meant to be taken as light-hearted fiction. You'll note my repeated shots at <chessmoron> about being sick. You'll note my repeated shots at <WinKing> about not being as nice as he thinks. You'll note my repeated refernces to <offramp> trying to cheat when he made that mistake. You'll note me using Yoda-speak whenever I reference <lostemperor> saying something he really didn't say. You'll note me using <Penguincw> as a mouthpiece when I want to say something and have to invent a person to say it. You'll note how I always applaud supposed acts of cheating as someone having competitive spirit. And so forth and so on. It's all make believe, a faux pretense of seriousness about the contest. It's really not meant to be taken seriously. I'm playing it for laughs.

I am reluctant to break character and even make this post, but I don't want you to have any hard feelings and in particular decide not to continue in this contest.

Aug-24-18  alfamikewhiskey: Round 6:

Nakamura - Aronian 1/2 38
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 0-1 32
Caruana - Karjakin 1/2 37
Grischuk - Carlsen 0-1 38
So - Anand 1/2 34

Aug-24-18  alfamikewhiskey: Keep up the good work <OCF>. Form, format & genre are appreciated - and ofc understood.
Aug-24-18  DerDiemer: <It's really not meant to be taken seriously. I'm playing it for laughs.

I am reluctant to break character and even make this post, but I don't want you to have any hard feelings and in particular decide not to continue in this contest>

Sorry <OCF>, sorry for me misunderstanding, no hard feelings and definitely want to continue in your contest and thank you verymuch for this great contest. Keep up the good work.

Aug-24-18  WinKing: Everybody gets a 'dose' of <OCF> in the round recaps <DerDiemer>. He usually doesn't leave anyone out. My response post was just more tomfoolery.
Aug-24-18  WinKing: Round 6

Nakamura - Aronian 1/2 43
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1/2 43
Caruana - Karjakin 1/2 43
Grischuk - Carlsen 0-1 43
So - Anand 1/2 43

Aug-24-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Diademas: Round 6:
Nakamura - Aronian 1/2 35
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1-0 51
Caruana - Karjakin 1-0 40
Grischuk - Carlsen 1-0 40
So - Anand 1/2 29
Aug-24-18  Robin01: Round 6:

Nakamura - Aronian 1-0 42
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1/2 37
Caruana - Karjakin 1/2 35
Grischuk - Carlsen 1/2 36
So - Anand 1-0 40

Aug-24-18  DerDiemer: Everything sorted <WinKing>, i see it now as more clear, like jokes or something, english is not my 1st language, Afrikaans is.
Aug-24-18  Count Wedgemore: <OCF> Thanks for your response.

<As one example, if he placed in a spot that would otherwise generate a prize, then that strikes me as sort of unfair.>

<Sneaky> did in fact win prizes. This excerpt is from the 2015 championship announcement on the Chessbookie Forum page:

<chessgames.com: ..Second and third place runner-ups are <Winter> with 23,736 chessbucks, and <Sneaky> with 20,314, who will both receive a free one-year membership as well as a $25 gift certificate to the Chessgames Store.>

Chessgames Bookie chessforum (kibitz #8274)

Let me just note: <beholder> ended up fourth, so one could say that <Sneaky> robbed him of his prize that year.

<In any case, that does tell me these contests do mean something to me, and should be conducted with some sense of propriety.>

They definitely should. I know these contests are supposed to be light-hearted fun, and not too serious. But I think the joy disappears if they are too arbitrary and not conducted properly.

A final note: i do think many noticed that you are currently boycotting the Games Prediction Contest, even if they haven't commented on it. I certainly noticed. And I understand the reasoning behind your protest. My personal opinion is that we might as well do without the Betting Ranker altogether. It has no real purpose. The Standard & the 1-2-3 are a measurement of the ability to correctly predict chess results. The Betting Ranker is not.

Aug-24-18  Count Wedgemore: Round 6:

Nakamura - Aronian 1/2 36
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1/2 37
Caruana - Karjakin 1/2 39
Grischuk - Carlsen 1/2 32
So - Anand 1/2 36

Aug-24-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  SwitchingQuylthulg: Round 6:

Nakamura - Aronian 1/2 43
Mamedyarov - Vachier-Lagrave 1/2 29
Caruana - Karjakin 1/2 44
Grischuk - Carlsen 1/2 40
So - Anand 1/2 40

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