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| Aug-17-06 | | farrooj: Elvis, Bing Crosby, Groucho Marx and Charlie Chaplin :) (no?) |
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Aug-17-06
 | | OhioChessFan: I know Groucho died about the same time as Elvis. Drawing a blank on anyone else. |
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Aug-17-06
| | OhioChessFan: Answer to puzzle of August 7:
click for larger viewBy Prokes: White to play and win.
1 Bd5 Ke2 2 e4 Ke3 3 e5 Kd4 4 e6 Kxd5 5 e7 h2 6 e8=Q h1=Q 7 Qa8+ |
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| Aug-17-06 | | YouRang: <farrooj> Correct!! Very impressive! :-) Other entertainment notables that died in '77:
- Freddie Prinze, Jan 29
- Joan Crawford, May 10
- Ethel Waters, Sep 1 |
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Aug-17-06
| | OhioChessFan: Another puzzle by Ladislav Prokes
click for larger viewWhite to play and draw. |
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| Aug-17-06 | | YouRang: <OhioChessFan> Looks like:
1. Nd4 Rd8
2. Kg2! (clearance/blocking move)
If 2...Rxd8, then 3. Nf3+ Kg4 4. Ne5+ winning the rook. |
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| Aug-18-06 | | brankat: <OhioChessFan> I've been a CG.com member for 10 months now, and only today did I find out about L.Stumpers page :-) Impressive! Congratulations. Out of curiosity, where do You get all that stuff? Do You "invent" it, collect it? Keep up the good work! |
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| Aug-18-06 | | dakgootje: <brankat>Your kidding right? Ah, nah, you probably aren't... |
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Aug-18-06
| | OhioChessFan: Well done, <YouRang> Sort of unusual that the second move is the stunner.
<brankat> I don't remember how I found the Stumpers page. When I got there, a couple posts had commented about whether he wrote chess problems. I decided it would be a good place to post some fun things. I started out using only the silly rhetorical questions normally called "imponderables". I have googled "brain teasers" to find most of the Stumpers. |
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Aug-18-06
| | OhioChessFan: My thoughts on computers having opening books: Way back when, when computers were really awful, the best chess players suffered under the delusion that the computers would never be competitive with them. They were so awful that the programmers used opening books just to get a game going beyond a few moves. The humans agreed, for the same reason. But nobody ever considered whether that was a "fair" thing to do. Since the humans were so much better, it really didn't matter. So the idea of a computer having an opening book was the generally accepted state of affairs without much thought being given to its propriety. Fast forward to the 90's, and the computers were incredibly improved, and challenging the very best of the human world.
There was already a historical basis for the computers having an opening book, although there was no philosophical basis. I think it's time to consider the question anew. I am firmly opposed to computers having an opening book for one specific reason. I think it's accurate to define a game of chess as a contest made by 2 individuals making decisions. Each decides what piece to move, where, when. An opening book eliminates the choice from the computer. The computer is not playing chess in the sense of making decisions while in its opening book. There would be absolutely no difference in a GM sitting there with a copy of ECO and making the moves while the computer was turned off.
One other reason I oppose opening books is that they are at odds with what people normally think of if you describe a computer "playing chess". I have run into a number of casual chess players who express surprise when they find out the computers are not making the decisions in openings. The average nonchess player surely has the idea that the computer is sitting there, calculating, and DECIDING what moves to play, the whole game. That is still how I perceive a computer playing the game of chess. With opening books and end game databases, I think computers play a pretty good game of something very similar to chess, but not chess itself. |
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| Aug-18-06 | | YouRang: <OhioChessFan> To clarify, do you oppose the use (by computers) of opening books in general, or only opening books developed by humans? Put another way, would you allow computers to use opening books that were developed by computers? |
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| Aug-19-06 | | JoeWms: You posted a nice evolutionary account.
<Way back when ...>
My "remembery" flashed back to a late 70's portable player, the "Boris." It was more toy than player. It had about eight silly non sequiturs it displayed in clumsy dot-matrix letters. "Are you rated?" "You can't be serious!" It had a "book" of sorts -- three or four moves. I was a D player and I usually beat it. After a month of boring chess I handed it off to a neighbor kid. <...when computers were really awful.> |
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| Aug-19-06 | | brankat: This contraption would now be worth a fortune in an Antique shop. Just like in a Chess game one needs to plan way ahead :-) I wish I could listen to my own advice. |
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Aug-19-06
| | OhioChessFan: I have heard that 8 track tapes will be the next rage in retro valuables. The problem is that I am still listening to them. |
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| Aug-19-06 | | Dozy: <JoeWms> <My "remembery" flashed back to a late 70's portable player, the "Boris." It was more toy than player...> About the same time as that, Joe, I taught a kid to play chess and his proud poppa bought him a chess computer. They were very keen for me to play it but I kept declining until one night they invited me home for dinner. Once they had me in the house there was no escape and I had to play the thing. I don't know what they were expecting, but it had been programmed with a plaintive, shrill female voice that could say, "I lose" over and over, ad infinitum. I wouldn't let them turn it off but, at least, they didn't ask me to play the thing again! |
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| Aug-19-06 | | Dozy: Hi <Ohio> sometimes it takes me longer than others to get around to things but I did listen when you told me about Yogi Berra and Joe Garagiola. I've just added a few paragraphs about Joe to my Yogi Berra chess story. You made one of Yogi's comments ("I didn't say all the things I said") a lot easier to understand. You can find the correction at http://www.rootyhillchess.org/yogi.... if you want to see it. Thanks again... |
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Aug-20-06
| | OhioChessFan: <So, if Yogi didn't say the things he said, who was responsible? Take a bow Joe Garagiola. He and Yogi remained firm friends but it was Joe who invented all those Yogi-isms that have become such a fun part of the language. > <Dozy> Joe Garagiola didn't invent them so much as attribute those already existent sayings to Yogi. That's a very interesting site. The Alekhine story is especially amusing. |
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Aug-21-06
| | OhioChessFan: I did have <Twinlark> on ignore. I don't recall why, so I figured it wasn't a big deal and have now removed him from the ignore list. Not sure why my mention of it doesn't show up on <JoeWms> forum, but that's fine. |
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| Aug-22-06 | | twinlark: I was curious mainly. I couldn't think what happened and trawling through the last month or two of old posts didn't show any clues. Anyway, glad it wasn't a big deal. :) |
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Aug-22-06
| | OhioChessFan: Answer to puzzle of August 17:
click for larger viewWhite to play and draw.
1 Nd4 Rd8 2 Kg2 Rxd7 3 Nf3+ Kg4 4 Ne5+
If 2...Kg4 3. Nc6 Rxd7 4. Ne5+ |
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Aug-22-06
 | | Open Defence: <8 track tapes > one fun thing i loved to do with record players and spool decks is to play the songs at half or twice the speed.. hehehehe it could make reba mcintyre sound like Jim Reeves or Tex Ritter sound like the Chipmunks... |
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Aug-22-06
| | OhioChessFan: An amazing problem:
click for larger viewD. Joseph. White to play and win. |
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Aug-22-06
 | | WannaBe: I see 1. bxa6 then the white h-pawn would be able to Queen first. |
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Aug-22-06
| | OhioChessFan: 1. bxa6 b5 and eventually Black wins with Qb8+ Interesting line that wasn't part of the solution so I had to work it out. You are on the right track with the Queens on a1 and h8. |
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Aug-23-06
| | OhioChessFan: ** Hints to puzzle of August 22 **
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I'll help the puzzle along by pointing out that h4 doesn't work, because of axb5 and the Black Pawn queens off the a1-h8 diagonal, on b1. Any King move loses because the a Pawn gets to a1 before the h Pawn gets to h8. bxa6 has been shown to lose. That leaves White with a first move of b6+. |
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