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May-28-11 | | Jim Bartle: The Dodgers had the entire "Boys of Summer" lineup starting in that game, with the exception of Duke Snider. He was replaced by Dick Williams, who i'd never realized was on that team. |
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May-29-11 | | technical draw: This is not an inside the park home run. It should be scored a double with the runner advancing on an error: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/bi... |
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May-29-11
 | | Phony Benoni: I'd let the home run stand. The error is not egregious, and the play was not trivially easy. Most importantly, it was the hitter's home park, not the pitcher's. Most official scorers have families to think of. |
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May-29-11 | | Jim Bartle: I started watching that game in the middle, and the Giant's announcers thought it should be changed to a double and an error, as did Ross afterward. He said he butchered the play all the way. If it's a home run, it's got to be one of the shortest (in the air) in history, about 50 feet. |
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May-30-11
 | | Phony Benoni: Uh huh. Sure it did.
http://books.google.com/books?id=ly... |
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May-30-11 | | Jim Bartle: I doubt that happened, but thinking about it, it could, and the application of the rules is correct. The ball remains in play with an infield fly, so a runner would still be out if hit by the ball before being touched by a fielder. |
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May-30-11 | | Jim Bartle: Brandon Crawford hit a grand slam in his first game for the Giants. This is a first for SF since Bonds did it against the Dodgers. That's Bobby Bonds in 1968. We all thought we had the new Willie Mays. And yes, Ray Sadecki did throw a two-hit shutout.
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... |
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May-30-11
 | | Phony Benoni: Don't knock the Sadecki. He threw another two-hit shutout that year: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... Notice how the Giants scored their run in the fourth. With one out, Mays walked. Hart singles to left and Mays scores (!), Hart taking second on the throw. So was Mays that fast, or Hart that slow? |
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May-30-11 | | Jim Bartle: Yes, Sadecki pitched well for SF in 68 and much of 67. It's just that he was so terrible for the Giants in 66 after they traded Cepeda to get him. That Cloninger HR game is a good example. I think the Giants were overly-impressed by Sadecki beating them easily in June, and overrated him: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... Mays scoring on a single? He must have been running on the pitch. I don't remember Hart being particularly slow or fast. He was a very good power hitter. |
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May-30-11 | | crawfb5: I am sort of coming into the home stretch on the US championship match collections. I have to do the two Showalter-Judd matches and the two Stanley matches, assuming I can find much in the way of information on them. I thought I would do the 1936 tournament (Game Collection: 1936 US Championship -- still under construction) to mark the transition and as a test case to see if I wanted to move forward or not. I also was over at Wikipedia improving the pre-1936 section of the article on the US championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Che...). Imagine my dismay when I realized the USCF held four <matches> for the title after they took over (1941, 1946, 1952, and 1957). It just never ends... |
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May-30-11
 | | keypusher: You can't contain Bartolo Colon. You can't even tire him out. http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap... |
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May-31-11 | | shivasuri4: In your bio,shouldn't 'seeker after knowledge' be 'seeker of knowledge'?Sorry for bothering you if I am wrong. |
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May-31-11 | | hms123: <shivasuri>
<Noun 1. seeker - someone making a search or inquiry; "they are seekers after truth"> (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/se...) |
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May-31-11 | | benjinathan: <Jim Bartle>
This relates to you post a few days ago about the number of active HOF baseball players: http://blogs.forbes.com/monteburke/... |
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May-31-11
 | | Phony Benoni: <First ballot locks>: Derek Jeter (star power, winning team, 3000 hits)
Mariano Rivera (most consistent player at his position for how long?) Albert Pujols (best player in game for nearly a decade) <Eventually, but maybe not first ballot> Ichiro Suzuki (lock if he can get 3000 hits, but he might finally be slowing down; may not get 200 hits this year) Jim Thome (no color and not a versatile player, but clean and has the numbers.) Alex Rodriguez (steroid use will deny him first ballot) Ivan Rodriguez (simply as a catcher)
<Maybe, maybe not>
Chipper Jones (I don't really get all the buzz about him. Consistent, yes, but HOF numbers?) Vladimir Guerrero (numbers, but doesn't generate a lot of buzz) Bobby Abreu, Chase Utley, Miguel Tejada (Great players, but without spectacular accomplishments and they don't really spark the imagination) Tood Helton (Coors Field prejudice will hurt his chances) Roy Halladay (Don't know if he's quite there yet, but no reason he won't make it. Perhaps he will be the new type of starting pitcher who gets into the HOF without a very large number of complete games, wins, etc.) |
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May-31-11 | | Jim Bartle: I agree with that list over all, and it's fairly similar to what I wrote a couple of days ago. I don't think Halladay nor Halladay is a Hall of Famer on what he's done so far, Tejada and Abreu not a chance. You want guys who played in only two All-Star games in the HOF? I see the first six in PB's list as sure things, with Ivan Rodriguez and Chipper Jones as probables. I think Omar Vizquel might eventually be elected to the HOF. He's on the White Sox, but I guess he's halfway retired. |
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May-31-11
 | | OhioChessFan: I am always puzzled by the strange dichotomy of numbers/buzz. 3000 hits somehow magically assures induction. 500 home runs. 300 wins. But there are players who don't have the numbers who always had the buzz, or something else. I lean toward the round numbers aren't nearly as important as they are played up to be. Is it really all that important that a player's production drops only, say 15% after he is 35 and hangs on until he is 42 than drops so much he goes ahead and retires? |
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May-31-11 | | Jim Bartle: Guerrero, probably not. Helton, in third or fourth year of eligibility. Looking at Rockies, I think Larry Walker had a better career than Helton has had, plus he played RF vs. 1B. |
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Jun-01-11 | | Jim Bartle: I know the phrase is abused by news channels, but this is still pretty bad. Sportscenter had a huge "Developing Story" screen, followed by the news that Shaquille O'Neal is retiring. How in the world is that a developing story. He retires. That's the story. |
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Jun-01-11
 | | Phony Benoni: The story is not the story, but the coverage. |
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Jun-02-11 | | shivasuri4: <Noun 1. seeker - someone making a search or inquiry; "they are seekers after truth">
Alright,but is 'seeker of knowledge' also correct? |
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Jun-02-11
 | | perfidious: <Jim>, <Phony Benoni>: The trend nowadays appears to be sportscasters trying to be the news, rather than reporting it, not to mention umps who think themselves bigger than the game. |
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Jun-02-11 | | Jim Bartle: That's a good point. I blame ESPN, which started nicely trying to bring some wit to sports reporting. Then a bunch of their reporters (Stuart Scott, especially) got carried away with their celebrity and overdid their shticks. |
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Jun-02-11
 | | Phony Benoni: It's not just sports, of course. Everybody has the same news these days, so good ratings are a matter of personality and buzz generation. |
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Jun-02-11 | | Jim Bartle: The spawn of Bill James:
"Rios, who has often struggled to turn his tools into performance, has been a bit unlucky, with a .208 BABIP despite a reasonable line-drive rate (18.7 percent of balls in play). The 4/3 SB/CS and .105 isolated power, though, are shortfalls in skill, not luck." http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20... |
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