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Aug-09-10
 | | alexmagnus: The stagnation at 23-27 may be due to life circumstances (job, family)... Life circumstances may also explain the rise of ratings at 66-67: 65 is the retirement age in Germany. |
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Aug-10-10
| | alexmagnus: 10th best (active) players in the world at each age give a different picture, with a peak at 25. Note also the unusual up-and-down after 80: 7 1342
8 1719
9 1801
10 2008
11 2018
12 2190
13 2217
14 2257
15 2401
16 2414
17 2498
18 2479
19 2523
20 2617
21 2587
22 2583
23 2630
24 2609
25 2670
26 2603
27 2645
28 2559
29 2561
30 2579
31 2583
32 2591
33 2589
34 2589
35 2547
36 2579
37 2542
38 2574
39 2575
40 2529
41 2541
42 2540
43 2557
44 2511
45 2518
46 2534
47 2519
48 2512
49 2513
50 2494
51 2519
52 2498
53 2429
54 2466
55 2424
56 2407
57 2428
58 2423
59 2491
60 2394
61 2400
62 2333
63 2413
64 2382
65 2329
66 2369
67 2335
68 2337
69 2299
70 2300
71 2273
72 2261
73 2228
74 2270
75 2231
76 2224
77 2235
78 2194
79 2180
80 2083
81 2105
82 1986
83 2047
84 1916
85 1838
86 1701
87 1606
88 1827
89 1623 |
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| Aug-10-10 | | zarg: <So much for 40-year-old players being "too old". ;)> Hmmmrrrf..
Could be interesting seeing that statistics, over professional GMs only. |
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| Aug-10-10 | | MrMelad: <10th best (active) players in the world at each age give a different picture> alex, I suspected so, improving from 2000 to 2100 is within the reach of anybody at any age, but improving from 2700 to 2800 is very rare and probably much harder. However, 25 sounds like a very young age for a career high, I'd suspect 35 is a more logical peak for the top player... |
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Aug-15-10
| | alexmagnus: "My" tournament is over. TPR (at least according to the tournament site): elo 1648, national rating 1497. |
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Aug-25-10
| | alexmagnus: Looks like I'll get my first Elo rating on the next list - and yes, it will be 1648 :) http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?... |
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| Sep-01-10 | | frogbert: congratulations on having a <published> fide rating. :o) have you had time to have a look at my exchanges with sonas on the kaggle.com site? links to the two threads: http://kaggle.com/view-postlist/for... http://kaggle.com/view-postlist/for... if you would've got time to discuss this briefly (here at cg.com), i would appreciate it. :o) |
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Sep-04-10
| | alexmagnus: To the (non-)importance of immediate predictive power, I have the same opinion as you. As for the rest (among others, what makes a rating system and how Chessmetrics fits those criteria), I need some time to look into it deeper. |
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| Sep-04-10 | | DoubtingThomas: Alex - I like your blunders collection. You'll find some more here: http://streathambrixtonchess.blogsp... |
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Sep-11-10
| | alexmagnus: Age of the fifth-oldest top-10 player on Chessmetrics (January lists): 1900: 31
1901: 37
1902: 38
1903: 34
1904: 35
1905: 36
1906: 37
1907: 38
1908: 33
1909: 34
1910: 35
1911: 28
1912: 34
1913: 35
1914: 31
1915: 37
1916: 38
1917: 42
1918: 43
1919: 36
1920: 36
1921: 33
1922: 34
1923: 35
1924: 36
1925: 37
1926: 38
1927: 40
1928: 41
1929: 41
1930: 42
1931: 43
1932: 42
1933: 43
1934: 37
1935: 29
1936: 34
1937: 28
1938: 32
1939: 30
1940: 31
1941: 29
1942: 31
1943: 32
1944: 33
1945: 34
1946: 35
1947: 35
1948: 34
1949: 35
1950: 36
1951: 35
1952: 38
1953: 39
1954: 38
1955: 37
1956: 34
1957: 32
1958: 33
1959: 34
1960: 34
1961: 35
1962: 36
1963: 33
1964: 34
1965: 35
1966: 34
1967: 35
1968: 33
1969: 37
1970: 35
1971: 39
1972: 37
1973: 36
1974: 38
1975: 38
1976: 39
1977: 40
1978: 41
1979: 42
1980: 43
1981: 43
1982: 44
1983: 32
1984: 32
1985: 33
1986: 34
1987: 35
1988: 36
1989: 32
1990: 30
1991: 27
1992: 26
1993: 26
1994: 25
1995: 26
1996: 26
1997: 27
1998: 28
1999: 29
2000: 28
2001: 31
2002: 30
2003: 30
2004: 31
2005: 29 |
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Sep-11-10
| | alexmagnus: Records in the previous list:
The oldest 5th oldest top-10 player was Portisch in 1982 - 44 years and 9 months. Here is that top-10, sorted by age: Petrosian (52y7m)
Korchnoi (50y10m)
Tal (45y2m)
Spassky (45y0m)
Portisch (44y9m)
Karpov (30y8m)
Andersson (30y7m)
Timman (30y1m)
Beliavsky (28y1m)
Kasparov (18y9m).
The youngest 5th oldest top-10 player was Gelfand on the 1994 list (25y7m): Karpov (42y8m)
Kasparov (30y9m)
Salov (29y8m)
Short (28y7m)
Gelfand (25y7m)
Ivanchuk (24y10m)
Anand (24y1m)
Shirov (21y6m)
Kamsky (19y7m)
Kramnik (18y7m) |
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Sep-17-10
| | alexmagnus: Brainstorming for peace: how about creating a (non-commercial) forum, open to everybody, working on the solutions of diverse (political) conflicts in the world? Not just discussing the conflicts, but working on their solution - all the world together, no matter which party one belongs too (or if one belongs to any party at all). ? |
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Sep-17-10
| | alexmagnus: In the brainstorming mode, that is. |
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| Sep-24-10 | | madlydeeply: Hey Alex i just read in a book called "the gift" that the seven year bankruptcy law (all debts forgiven after seven years....is that the law in Deutschland?) is actually Mosaic law! Which means usurous (double digit) interest rates have been cannibalizing societies for four thousand years! ( if you consider Moses dating from 2000 BC switching from age of taurus to age of aries...ram for bull etc...) what does this have to do with peace on earth? Well in USA at any rate every person is in debt making us hyper productive with three jobs and not giving a damn about the evil policies the gov't is up to...like the "DRONE PROGRAM" in Afghanistan... So you don't think human's are born into conflict? I suppose i don't either which is why i'm an anarchist.... later |
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Oct-02-10
| | alexmagnus: Highest rated active players by birthyear, pre-1960: 1910 Vogel 1479
1911 no players
1912 no players
1913 Aburto Renovales 1497
1914 Krawczyk 1713
1915 Loechner 1939
1916 Cordioli 1995
1917 Boutteville 2108
1918 no players
1919 Konstacky 2110
1920 Kinin 2013
1921 Veltmander 2107
1922 Hevizi 2100
1923 Ciubus 2185
1924 Fatzer 2060
1925 Ivanov 2086
1926 Patzl 2196
1927 Damjanovic 2308
1928 Khavsky 2318
1929 Bouwmeester 2343
1930 Zajas 2279
1931 Korchnoi 2548
1932 Nikolac 2423
1933 Vasiukov 2480
1934 Bakhmatov 2362
1935 Klovans 2436
1936 Chernikov 2425
1937 Portisch 2544
1938 Karasev 2361
1939 Kremenietsky 2374
1940 Csom 2439
1941 Murey 2426
1942 Jansa 2499
1943 Sosonko 2525
1944 Tseshkovsky 2564
1945 Cebalo 2493
1946 Pushkov 2466
1947 Gulko 2535
1948 Hübner 2598
1949 Dydyshko 2547
1950 Ljubojevic 2571
1951 Timman 2578
1952 Mecking 2548
1953 Beliavsky 2632
1954 Spraggett 2571
1955 Marjanovic 2497
1956 Christiansen 2585
1957 Ftacnik 2568
1958 Dvoirys 2583
1959 Gurevich 2613 |
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Oct-02-10
| | alexmagnus: Post-1960:
1960 Seirawan 2638
1961 Strikovic 2560
1962 Graf 2606
1963 Krasenkow 2622
1964 Atalik 2613
1965 Short 2690
1966 Bareev 2663
1967 Granda Zuniga 2636
1968 Gelfand 2751
1969 Anand 2800
1970 Hracek 2633
1971 Adams 2728
1972 Shirov 2749
1973 Nielsen 2670
1974 Kamsky 2705
1975 Topalov 2803
1976 Svidler 2731
1977 Morozevich 2700
1978 Movsesian 2723
1979 Leko 2724
1980 Malakhov 2725
1981 Fressinet 2718
1982 Aronian 2783
1983 Eljanov 2761
1984 Gharamian 2658
1985 Mamedyarov 2756
1986 Gashimov 2719
1987 Radjabov 2748
1988 Laznicka 2690
1989 Wang 2724
1990 Carlsen 2826
1991 Le Quang Liem 2694
1992 Caruana 2700
1993 So 2668
1994 Giri 2677
1995 Abasov 2517
1996 Nyzhnyk 2538
1997 Vaibhav 2418
1998 Artemiev 2356
1999 Wei 2238
2000 Sevian 2105
2001* Lobanov 2038
2002 Nguyen Anh Khoi 1980
2003 Tran Vuong Mai Khanh 1802
2004 Pham Tran Gia Thu 1795
*=excluding a Colombian player; the junior ratings of Colombians are highly dubious. |
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| Oct-02-10 | | Daodejing: Danke Alex!
Nice work. |
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| Oct-02-10 | | Daodejing: Maybe 1963 is about 2760?
1984 is weak compared to others.
Yes I know - he is not active -
but still it is Kasparov :-) |
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| Oct-02-10 | | I play the Fred: I did a similar, more subjective list on my own forum, alexmagnus. Cool stuff. |
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Oct-05-10
| | alexmagnus: <frogbert> There is one problem regarding TPRs and matches. It illustrates at best in case of a drawn match: the match is drawn but the TPRs are different (opponent's rating for both), though it's reasonable to assume that both players played at the same level. And if the rating difference is sufficiently big, then a winner of the match may end up with a lower TPR than the loser.... That's problematic to say the least... Normally a TPR shouldn't depend on player's own rating, but I think in case of matches it is inevitable - you have to take not the opponent's rating but the average of both ratings as the "base" for the calculation. |
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| Oct-05-10 | | slomarko: <alexmagnus> the highest rated active players by birthyear list is interesting but what should you really do is to pick 10 best rated players for which birthyear, calculate their average rating and then put it on a graph. it might give as an indication when exactly the chessplayers are in their prime. |
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Oct-05-10
| | alexmagnus: <slo> I did it once not with the average both with 10-highest rated players. And another time with the 100-highest rated players in Germany. Funnily, the results were completely different: while the world "#10 for birthyear" peaked at 25, the German "#100 for birthyear" peaked at 41. Actually I have a long-term bet running that the world #10 peak will not get past 1990 till 2030. |
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Oct-14-10
| | alexmagnus: Just wrote my last exam :) |
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| Oct-14-10 | | whiteshark: Herzlichen Glückwunsch, <alexmagnus>!!! Das denkst Du?
Das denkst Du ...
Das denkst Du! |
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| Dec-22-10 | | playground player: <alexmagnus> With all due respect, we cannot possibly agree on our respective interpretations of the Bible's teaching on homosexuality. There is no way to reconcile them. Note I have not demanded that you be silenced, forced to recant, deleted, expelled, etc. |
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