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May-01-21
 | | alexmagnus: May:
European Union:
1. Giri 2780
2. Rapport 2763
3. Vachier-Lagrave 2760
4. Topalov 2735
5. Duda 2729
6. Vallejo 2710
7. Van Foreest 2701
8. Navara 2697
9. Wojtaszek 2694
10. Almasi 2687
Former Soviet Union:
1. Nepomniachtchi 2792
2. Aronian 2781
3. Grischuk 2776
4. Mamedyarov 2770
5. Radjabov 2765
6. Karjakin 2757
7. Andreikin 2725
8. Vitiugov 2715
9. Svidler 2714
10. Dubov 2710
Former British Empire:
1. Caruana 2820
2. So 2770
3. Dominguez 2758
4. Anand 2753
5. Nakamura 2736
6. Harikrishna 2730
7. Vidit 2726
8. Adams 2716
9. Xiong 2709
10. Amin 2701
Asia:
1. Ding 2799
2. Anand 2753
3. Wang 2744
4. Wei 2732
5. Harikrishna 2730
6. Vidit 2726
7-8. Le 2709
7-8. Yu 2709
9. Bu 2705
10. Maghsoodloo 2698
Born later than the world champion:
1. Caruana 2820
2. Ding 2799
3. Giri 2780
4. So 2770
5. Rapport 2763
6. Firouzja 2759
7. Wei 2732
8. Duda 2729
9. Vidit 2726
10. Dubov 2710
Nuclear powers:
1. Caruana 2820
2. Ding 2799
3. Nepomniachtchi 2792
4. Grischuk 2776
5. So 2770
6. Vachier-Lagrave 2760
7. Dominguez 2758
8. Karjakin 2757
9. Anand 2753
10. Wang 2744 |
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May-01-21 | | Messiah: Please note Wang Hao announced his retirement, so the lists will remain flawed (either if you include him or not) for a while. |
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May-01-21
 | | alexmagnus: I know but as long as he is officially active, he will remain on the list (just as I did with Kramnik after he retired). |
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May-03-21
 | | beatgiant: <Messiah>
I've been completely open at all times about the shortcomings of my lists here. Life is too short and I have to ration my time on this site, so I generally go strictly by what is on the FIDE lists. |
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May-03-21
 | | beatgiant: Now for my regular May lists.
Latin America:
1. Cori 2652
2-3. Granda Zuniga 2630
2-3. Pichot 2630
4. Mareco 2629
5. Delgado Ramirez 2622
6. Martinez Alcantara 2620
7. Henriquez Villagra 2600
8-9. Bachmann 2599
8-9. Flores 2599
10. Leitao 2592
Middle East:
1. Amin 2701
2. Maghsoodloo 2698
3. Salem 2682
4. Gelfand 2676
5. Ipatov 2644
6. Nabaty 2636
7. Sutovsky 2632
8. Yilmaz 2630
9. Adly 2615
10. Rodshtein 2614
Nordic/Baltic:
1. Carlsen 2847
2. Grandelius 2670
3. Kovalenko 2643
4. Tari 2639
5-6. Christiansen 2618
5-6. Nielsen 2618
7. Hammer 2608
8. Hellers 2592
9. Gretarsson 2588
10. Andersen 2579
Old Guard:
1. Anand 2753
2. Topalov 2735
3. Adams 2716
4. Svidler 2714
5. Sadler 2694
6. Almasi 2687
7. Ivanchuk 2678
8. Gelfand 2676
9-10. Kamsky 2665
9-10. Malakhov 2665 |
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May-03-21
 | | beatgiant: Now for a bit of a shake-up. Instead of my usual "top 10 post-Communist" list, I am listing the top player from each and every "post-Communist" country. Definitions: A "post-Communist" country is a country (other than former USSR or China) that had a government in power whose behavior in political and economic matters was inspired by the USSR over a period of years. Yes, a little vague, but now I'm showing my complete list. In case of split countries that reunited (Germany, Vietnam, Yemen), we determine based on the reunification outcome (Germany and Yemen: not "post-Communist," Vietnam: "post-Communist"). In case of formerly unified countries that split apart (Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Ethiopia), we list all of the resulting countries. Kosovo* is shown with asterisk as per FIDE's list. The countries are listed in order of top rated player. 1. Hungary: Rapport 2763
2. Bulgaria: Topalov 2735
3. Poland: Duda 2729
4. Vietnam: Le, 2709
5. Czech Rep: Navara 2697
6. Romania: Lupulescu 2656
7. Croatia: Saric 2645
8. Slovenia: Lenic 2627
9. Serbia: Indjic 2607
10. N. Macedonia: Georgiev 2589
11. Bosnia: Predojevic 2586
12. Cuba: Albornoz Cabrera 2573
13. Slovakia: Markos 2565
14. Mongolia: Batchuluun 2536
15. Albania: Dervishi 2527
16. Montenegro: Djukic 2510
17. Kosovo*: Saraci 2424
18. Angola: Silva 2296
19. Nicaragua: Ampie 2290
20. Mozambique: Paiva 2230
21. Afghanistan: Kanz 1982
22. Eritrea: Kibrom Weldegebriel Beraki 1820
23. Somalia: Islam Sh. Nour 1812
24. Laos: Senglek 1253
25. Cambodia: no active player
26. Ethiopia: no rated player
27-29. Benin: non-FIDE member
27-29. N. Korea: non-FIDE member
27-29. Rep. Congo (Brazzaville): non-FIDE member It turns out that I still don't need to decide whether Grenada is "post-Communist," because they have no rated player! As usual, I welcome any corrections. In particular, did I miss any country? |
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May-03-21
 | | beatgiant: My purpose in making the list above is to shed some light on the question of how much it makes sense to track "post-Communist" countries as a chess phenomenon. What is the "post-Communist" effect and how important is it? Several of the countries near the top of the list already had strong chess cultures before "Communism": parts of the former Austria-Hungary (e.g. Hungary, Czech Rep.), Poland, parts of the former Yugoslavia, and Cuba. There are also some countries like Bulgaria and Romania for which their top players today look noticeably higher ranked than pre-"Communism." In particular, Vietnam and Mongolia have higher rankings than their non-"post-Communist" neighbors such as South Korea or Japan. But in the rest of the developing countries, one hardly sees any effect. For example, Silva, the top post-Communist player of Africa, is only 48th ranked on a list of African players. And the last few countries on the list have hardly any official chess activity at all. The case of Cuba is also noteworthy. The country could have been higher ranked if it weren't for a number of recent defections to the US, made possible by Cold War-era US rules to support such defections. |
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May-03-21
 | | beatgiant: My overall conclusion is that the "post-Communist" effect is not huge. Vietnam is surprisingly strong, but Cuba has lots of defectors, and most of the other countries seem largely unaffected. For this month at least, I will not publish a top 10 for this group, and my "rest of world" list will include some countries that previously were on the post-Communist list and we'll see how that goes. |
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May-03-21
 | | beatgiant: Rest of world.
Eligibility: player who is not from a country that is EU, former USSR, former British Empire, Asia, Latin America, Middle East, Nordic/Baltic, or a nuclear weapon state. 1. Firouzja 2759
2-3. Indjic 2607
2-3. Milov 2607
4. Ivanisevic 2606
5. Markus 2600
6. Georgiev 2589
7. Predojevic 2586
8-9. Kadric 2584
8-9. Studer 2584
10. Ivic 2581
Just as expected, the list filled up with players from parts of the former Yugoslavia that aren't yet in the EU, besides the usual Firouzja and a few Swiss players. It's a stronger list, but gives less feeling of representing "the rest of the world." |
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May-03-21
 | | beatgiant: Going forward, probably I should revive the idea of a Balkans list. Then rest of world will look same as before, unless the likes of Angola and Mozambique majorly raise their games. So, here goes.
Balkans. Eligibility: player from any part of the former Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Albania or Greece. 1. Topalov 2735
2. Cheparinov 2667
3. Saric 2645
4. Lenic 2627
5. Papaioannou 2623
6. Mastrovasilis 2609
7-8. Bosiocic 2607
7-8. Indjic 2607
9. Ivanisevic 2606
10. Banikas 2602
And another "rest of world" list reflecting also "not from Balkans": 1. Firouzja 2759
2. Milov 2607
3. Studer 2584
4. Pelletier 2581
5. Bogner 2577
6. Hamdouchi 2561
7. Georgiadis 2553
8-9. Fontaine 2550
8-9. Megaranto 2550
10. Bellahcene 2508
11. Priasmoro 2502
12. Arab 2487 |
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May-06-21
 | | beatgiant: <alexmagnus>
FYI, I posted a question for you in my forum (can re-post it here if you prefer). |
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May-06-21
 | | alexmagnus: <beatgiant> answered there, thank you for paying attention to it, found my mistake. |
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May-07-21
 | | beatgiant: For this month's novelty list, in honor of the resumed world title cycle, I present every Carlsen and every Nepomniachtchi-like. Eligibility: active player with surname 'Carlsen' or with surname close (as judged by me) to 'Nepomniachtchi.' 1. Carlsen, M. 2847
2. Nepomniachtchi 2792
3. Nepomniachi 2253
4. Carlsen, Christian H. 2088
5. Carlsen, H. 2063
6. Nepomiachti 1955
7. Carlsen, E. 1874
8. Nepomnyaschaya 1741
9. Carlsen, R. 1553
10. Carlsen, Christian 1377
11. Nepomniashchii 1270
There are enough of them to create 4-player teams (the Carlsens get 2 alternates and the Nepos get 1). |
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May-07-21
 | | alexmagnus: Interesting, the two four-player teams would be quite evenly matched. Magnus (2847) - Ian (2792)
Christian (2088) - Alexander (2253)
Henrik (2063) - Alexandre (1955)
Erik (1874) - Mariya (1741)
That's an advantage of 18 points for Team Carlsen on the average rating, and no-one of the four pairings looks like a total mismatch. |
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May-07-21 | | technical draw: Thank you <alexmagnus> and <beatgiant> for those interesting statistics. I love statistics but the math you guys use is above my pay grade. I might not comment but I am visiting. |
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May-31-21
 | | beatgiant: June 2021
Latin America:
1. Cori 2652
2-3. Granda Zuniga 2630
2-3. Pichot 2630
4. Mareco 2629
5. Delgado Ramirez 2622
6. Martinez Alcantara 2620
7. Henriquez Villagra 2606
8-9. Bachmann 2599
8-9. Flores 2599
10. Leitao 2592
Middle East:
1. Amin 2703
2. Maghsoodloo 2698
3. Salem 2682
4. Gelfand 2675
5. Ipatov 2644
6. Sutovsky 2634
7. Yilmaz 2630
8. Adly 2625
9-10. Idani 2614
9-10. Rodshtein 2614 |
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May-31-21
 | | beatgiant: Nordic/Baltic:
1. Carlsen 2847
2. Grandelius 2670
3. Kovalenko 2643
4. Tari 2639
5-6. Christiansen 2618
5-6. Nielsen 2618
7. Hammer 2608
8. Gretarsson 2603
9. Hansen 2596
10. Hellers 2592
Balkans:
1. Topalov 2735
2. Cheparinov 2667
3. Saric 2645
4. Lenic 2627
5. Papaioannou 2623
6. Bosiocic 2610
7. Mastrovasilis 2609
8. Indjic 2607
9. Ivanisevic 2606
10. Banikas 2602 |
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May-31-21
 | | beatgiant: Rest of World:
1. Firouzja 2759
2. Milov 2607
3-5. Bogner 2581
3-5. Pelletier 2581
3-5. Studer 2581
6. Hamdouchi 2561
7. Georgiadis 2553
8-9. Fontaine 2550
8-9. Megaranto 2550
10. Priasmoro 2502
11. Bellahcene 2499
12. Arab 2487
Old Guard:
1. Anand 2753
2. Topalov 2735
3. Adams 2716
4. Svidler 2714
5. Sadler 2694
6. Almasi 2687
7. Ivanchuk 2678
8. Gelfand 2675
9. Malakhov 2666
10. Leko 2664 |
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Jun-01-21
 | | alexmagnus: My usual ones too...
European Union:
1. Giri 2780
2. Rapport 2763
3. Vachier-Lagrave 2760
4. Topalov 2735
5. Duda 2729
6. Vallejo 2710
7. Van Foreest 2701
8. Navara 2697
9-10. Wojtaszek 2687
9-10. Almasi 2687
Former Soviet Union:
1. Nepomniachtchi 2792
2. Aronian 2781
3. Grischuk 2776
4. Mamedyarov 2770
5. Radjabov 2765
6. Karjakin 2757
7-8. Andreikin 2724
7-8. Vitiugov 2724
9. Esipenko 2716
10-11. Dubov 2714
10-11. Svidler 2714
Former British Empire:
1. Caruana 2820
2. So 2770
3. Dominguez 2758
4. Anand 2753
5. Nakamura 2736
6. Harikrishna 2730
7. Vidit 2726
8. Adams 2716
9. Xiong 2709
10. Amin 2703
Asia:
1. Ding 2799
2. Anand 2753
3. Wang 2744
4. Harikrishna 2730
5. Vidit 2726
6. Wei 2725
7. Le 2709
8-9. Yu 2705
8-9. Bu 2705
10. Maghsoodloo 2698
Born later than the world champion:
1. Caruana 2820
2. Ding 2799
3. Giri 2780
4. So 2770
5. Rapport 2763
6. Firouzja 2759
7. Duda 2729
8. Vidit 2726
9. Wei 2725
10. Esipenko 2716
Nuclear powers:
1. Caruana 2820
2. Ding 2799
3. Nepomniachtchi 2792
4. Grischuk 2776
5. So 2770
6. Vachier-Lagrave 2760
7. Dominguez 2758
8. Karjakin 2757
9. Anand 2753
10. Wang 2744 |
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Jun-01-21
 | | beatgiant: One of my recent game of the day puns based on Prokofiev was well received. Inspired by that, I decided to take classical composers as the theme for this month's novelty list. Eligibility: I skimmed the index of a history of western classical music for the name list. I limited it to exact surname matches and active players on the FIDE list. With that methodology, here are all I found. 1. Wagner 2572
2. Berg 2532
3. Bellini 2437
4. Weber 2365
5. Schubert 2319
6. Puccini 2313
7. Bach 2277
8. Dvorak 2223
9. Strauss 2185
10. Prokofiev 2175
11. Rossini 2114
12. Schumann 1966
13. Paganini 1962
14. Khachaturian 1884
15. Bernstein 1874
16. Bartok 1807
17. Mahler 1798
18. Balakirev 1771
19. Smetana 1637
20. Ravel 1372
21. Stravinski 1133
22. Verdi 1057
I also found the following notable inactive players. Debussy 1948
Chopin 1573 |
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Jun-02-21
 | | alexmagnus: Talking about namesakes, let's see some others... Soviet/Russian leaders since 1917 (for Lenin and Stalin I searched both the pseudonyms and their true names): 1. Kruschiov 2382
2. Eltsin 2258
3. Chernenko 1870
4. Ulyanov 1432 (Lenin 1310)
5. Gorbachev 1355
6. Putin 1347
German chancellors (since 1871)
1. Bauer 2639
2. Schroeder 2568
3. Luther 2528
4. Schmidt 2400
5. Mueller 2387
6. von Buelow 2361
7. Brandt 2226 (Frahm 1654)
8. Merkel 2148
9. Ebert 2125
10. Michaelis 2117
11. Marx 2009
12. Wirth 1968
13. Bruening 1852
14. Hertling 1751
15. Kohl 1678
16. von Bismarck 1397
Of the candidates for the next election, their best rated namesakes are Scholz (2366) and Laschet (2141). No Baerbock. |
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Jun-02-21
 | | beatgiant: <alexmagnus>
I assume you didn't include Medvedev (2077) and Malenkov (2004) among the Soviet/Russian leaders due to interpretation of history and questions about their actual power? (I was about to call out Chernenko too, but then noticed you actually did include him.)Of course, a similar question could apply to prime ministers if we extend back into pre-Soviet times, but there are: Stuermer 2205
Witte 2049
Lvov 2007
Goremykin 1826
Golitsyn 1802
For the dynasties, I found:
Romanov 2599
Rurik 1952 |
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Jun-02-21
 | | alexmagnus: Medvedev, I simply forgot. His rule was so unremarkable that in my (and I guess not only my) mind it feels like Russia has been ruled by Putin ever since Yeltsin's resignation. Didn't find a Malenkov - but I did search (guess spelled him wrongly?) |
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Jun-02-21
 | | beatgiant: <alexmagnus>
Oh, I just noticed that I forgot to filter for active players, and Yuriy Malenkov has been inactive since 2012. |
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Jun-02-21 | | nok: <Former British Empire: ...9. Xiong> Xiong is from Texas. That would be Spanish empire. |
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