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He believed in a level of civility, with sharp elbows to be sure, but not with unbridled rudeness and animosity. Nor was outright abhorrent (and let's face it, right-wing) tropes allowed to propagate on a chess website.

But allow me, <Susan>, to share something here, something that will enlighten you I'm sure. Look at what the <not right wingers> are posting on the Rogoff page and then ask yourself if <Zanzibar> or <Nok> or any of the other pearl-clutching cry babies came here demanding censorship of the following:

The Left have been openly advocating for both pedophilia and concentration camps for their political opponents.

<al wazir: Pedophilia doesn't always harm the child.>

Kenneth Rogoff (kibitz #460832)

<al wazir: What we need now is help from the Chinese. Currently they have detained over a million Uighurs in so-called "vocational training centers" in Xinjiang. These are actually concentration camps in which the prisoners, who are members of Muslim minorities, are infused with communist doctrines and nationalist sentiment, enforced by physical coercion. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...

This is pretty severe, but it's the sort of thing the commies are good at.

Here in the U.S., we have 75 million people who are similarly in need of having their thinking realigned. But straightening out ignorant, deluded, bigoted, paranoid citizens is *not* the sort of thing we Americans are good at.

Do you see where I'm going with this?>

Kenneth Rogoff (kibitz #457501)

<al wazir: If you think concentration camps are not the right way to do it, give me a better one.>

Kenneth Rogoff (kibitz #457805)

<Susan>, I hope you can keep this in mind the next time one of these cry babies come to the support forum to whine about censorship. When they complain about hate speech or racism or bigotry, just remember there was no outrage, no outcry, no petition to censor, no demands to suspend, and basically not a peep about the above outrageous, ugly and hateful statements from one of their own.

That's not the point, and you don't know that.

The point is that the <LIB> are running to this page, clutching pearls, and campaigning for the censorship and sometimes even banishment of <right wingers> because they say <offensive things>.

Yet when the libs advocate for pedophilia and concentration camps for their opponents on Rogoff, the other libs don't come here clutching pearls and acting so offended or seeking correction and censorship.

This proves that their cause has nothing to do with upholding some sort of standard of decency when it comes to posting, or keeping offensive posting off the site "for the good of chessgames.com and those millions of potential new members", but rather, the libs are here simply trying to get their opposition shut down.

The Rogoff libs were advocating for pedophilia and calling for throwing Christians and other Trump supporters in concentration camps. The libs were calling for their torture and death, yet, none of the libs came to the support forum to express any outrage over those statements.

Two points.

1. The point, which you are trying to deflect from, is that the libs come here to complain about offensive <right wing> posts and use Daniel's name as an attempt to manipulate <Susan> into censoring or banning said posters. The libs claim that <CG> simply can't allow such offensive posts to stand.

But when the libs argued for <pedophilia>, openly, time and time again (not just once or twice), and called for putting Christians and other Trump supporters in concentration camps, the libs did not come to the support forum and alert <susan> to the offensive posts, and they were not concerned about the wellbeing of <CG>, or the turning-off of would-be members.

Thus, the hypocrisy is exposed and the real intentions and motivations of the whiners, like <Zanzibar>, are laid bare.

2. This is not the main point but I will respond now that the <central point> has been made clear first and foremost. The libs on the Rogoff page always voice their disagreement, contempt, and disgust for any and all views they find contrary to their own. Witness them here crying to <Susan>.

This pattern has been established for 10 years.

The fact that none of the Rogoff libs displayed an iota of outrage over <al wazir's> two statements (pedophilia & concentration camps) demonstrates, if nothing else, their silent condoning of his stated position.

It was only after I made a big stink about it and <shamed> you guys into saying something, anything, even a little peep, that just a few of you voice a very kind, very measured, and quite reluctant cautionary statement to <al wazir>, politely asking him to kindly change the subject since I was flying Left-Wing underwear up the flagpole.

So what is the point of posting this here in the support forum?

The point is to <counter> an attack made by the libs upon <right winger> posters in this forum. I needed to disclose the whole ugly truth, so that <both sides> could be seen clearly, and so that <Susan> wouldn't fall prey to manipulation.

Now everyone knows that the side who sits with the <pedophilia> advocates and the <concentration camps for Christians> advocates are <dishonest> about their motivations regarding the censorship of their political opponents.

I don't want to drag this stuff here to the <support page>, but <Zanzibar> insisted upon it.

There is a major difference between <George Wallace> and the crying libs.

<George Wallace> does not come to this page to try to get <Susan> to ban or censor his political opposition.

However, the libs, like <Zanzibar>, <Rogge>, <nok> and <NOZZLE> come here all the time to get their opponents censored or banned.

That is the difference.

We are both at the same burning house, yes, but I am the fireman and you are the arsonist.

I actually don't want the lib posts censored. I want their posts to stand where everyone can see them and react to them. It's called FREE SPEECH and I'm all for it.

I would advocate for less posting restriction even, and especially, for my political opponent.

That should make everything nice and clear.

Uh-uh. Is that the fireman or the arsonist?

<Jul-12-21 George Wallace:

Again, let's cut through the noise, and let <Daniel>'s own words speak for themselves:

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2) ,boris johnson has asked social media sites to take action against racist posts after euro 2020 final

Yes he knows.. You crybabes now can enjoy your "victory"..

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