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Dec-31-21
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  jessicafischerqueen:

<Tab>

Do you mean this page?
https://www.chessgames.com/editor.h...

I copy and pasted it on the bottom of my profile so I wouldn't lose it.

Please hang tough brah I am with you and <Stonehenge> on trying to alert <Susan> to the current crisis in database management. Or more properly stated, mis-management.

She wants the same things we want, we just need to convince her to listen to what you and Stony have been posting for weeks now.

Dec-31-21
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  jessicafischerqueen:

<Tab> I understand your frustration believe me, because I have seen all the work/expertise you have put into improving / managing the database for decades.

I doubt very much <Susan> is interested only in site income. I think she is much more interested in her son's legacy. That's why I am convinced she will come around to see that that legacy is threatened by the current problems you and <Stony> have made public.

Dec-31-21
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  Tabanus: <jess> That's the link. Should I say thanks ;) IMO Daniel managed the site a bit better (database-wise) than now but he also put up <lots> of garbage like 8th Sunway Sitges (2021). Let's see if she can afford to hire normal person for this not so rewarding task.
Dec-31-21  Messiah: Happy New Year to everyone! May the world be in a better shape 365 days from now.
Dec-31-21
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  MissScarlett: Or, in your case, in 48 hours.
Dec-31-21
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  jessicafischerqueen:

<MissScarlett> If I remember my time zones, and maths, correctly, this would place <Messiah> at the Dog and Ferret pub in the picturesque hamlet of TERRIBLE, Gaberdeen on Tweed.

Jan-01-22
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  gezafan: How is it possible to change one's username?
Jan-01-22
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  WannaBe: <gezafan> If my memory serves, it was done once and only once, it caused Daniel such trouble to do it, it was never done again.

Then the recommendation is to just sign up for a new account/name and start a new life.

Jan-01-22
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  gezafan: Thanks WB. I guess I'll stick with gezafan.
Jan-01-22  hoodrobin: Happy New Year to All!
Jan-01-22
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  OhioChessFan: Happy New Year CGC!
Jan-01-22
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  Diademas: Happy New Year to all of us.
Jan-01-22
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  MissScarlett: Peace to all men, especially <Messiah>.
Jan-01-22
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  jessicafischerqueen:

<MissScarlett> amen brah.

I find your holiday post NOT TERRIBLE.

Jan-02-22
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  Tabanus: Gashimov Memorial (2021) is my fix attempt. Apart from the blitz, round 2 of the rapid was also missing. It's not possible to be that incompetent, so either it was drugs or it was done by purpose.

If possible I'll try to fix CG's disrespectful 8th Sunway Sitges (2021) next, and then the last World Ch's.

CG will probably continue in this style also the next 20 years. I have to take care of myself a little. Count me out on new events from now on.

Jan-02-22  Messiah: Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay, I'm unbanned now! HELLO!
Jan-02-22
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  fredthebear: What was ya banned for? Tooo many repeeeat letters?

MC lost some blitz games recently, but you didn't comment. Thought perhaps you were sleeping off too much spirits of the beverage type.

Jan-03-22  Messiah: <fredthebear: What was ya banned for? Tooo many repeeeat letters?

MC lost some blitz games recently, but you didn't comment. Thought perhaps you were sleeping off too much spirits of the beverage type.>

Here you are (verbatim):

<The account <Messiah> has received a kibitzing suspension for 48 hours due to the following post:

Messiah: I very highly respect Levon Aronian for his ability to destroy weakos one by one.

REASON: VIOLATED RULE #

Due to the brevity of this suspension, it may not be appealed. You will be able to post again at 2022-01-02 17:06:45 USA/Eastern.

Sincerely,
Chessgames.com Staff>

Jan-03-22
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  fredthebear: I don't get it. Your one sentence is offensive????

Is "weakos" a racial slur?

Did you first receive a warning?

What rule was violated? That explanation is insufficient; the reasoning seems extremely weak.

That looks like a personal attack on you <Messiah>.

There must be more to the story.

Chessgames.com Staff owes the public a more specific detail of the reason for this suspension. The suspension appears to be bogus.

What was wrong with <Messiah>'s sentence?

If <perfidious> writes that same sentence, does he get suspended? Absolutely not.

Jan-03-22
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  Diademas: <fredthebear: I don't get it. Your one sentence is offensive??>

This is not happening in a vacuum. This is the culmination of hundreds of posts cyberstalking the WC spamming games he lost from age 9 upwards with vitriol.

Jan-03-22
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  fredthebear: Yes, we're all aware of the Justin comments.

So, the one sentence is in reference to calling Magnus Carlsen a "weakos", assuming Aronian was the victor?

Jan-03-22
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  Diademas: Yes.
I'm not sure the example <CG> chose was the best, but I wholeheartedly agree to drawing the line at some point.
Jan-03-22
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  fredthebear: The "offending" comment in and of itself certainly is not worthy of a suspension.

Messiah has kibitzed 3,380 times. Most are harmless one-liners. He's well off the pace of the top posters on this site. He's not a disruptor.

The whole point of KIBITZING is to allow people to express their opinions! Let's have a definition of KIBITZ:

kibitz
[ˈkibits]
VERB
informal
NORTH AMERICAN
look on and offer unwelcome advice, especially at a card game.

By that definition, I'd say <Messiah> is right in line.

So, now we have the OPINION POLICE working on this website?

I'll bet the staff member who handed out the suspension has given their own opinion more than 5,000 times.

If we all agreed, there would be no point to kibitzing. It's the differing point-of-views (if said in good taste) and insights that are the spice.

The staff member should have at least made the point that belittling the world champion routinely, repeatedly is not in good taste.

Let's give <Messiah> credit for being interested in chess. He's generally friendly toward other users. He generally takes teasing and criticism well from other users. Yes, Carlsen fans are frustrated with him. Perhaps it is a violation -- trolling MC's losses. However, it's my understanding that public celebrities and officials are fair game for verbal pot shots (legally, not morally or ethically, but legally).

If CG wants to clean up this site, they have plenty of other places to start with, including a few of their volunteer editors bashing and lying about other users.

A public warning should precede most suspensions to give the person a chance to self-correct. That user should have the right to appeal. Blatant racism and profanity directed toward another user does not warrant a warning -- it should go straight to suspension, and that suspension should be made known to all users.

I am concerned that personal dislike by the staff has entered into their decision making. We all have to somewhat tolerate those who have different points of view, like it or not. We all have different experiences that affect our thinking.

It's good to know that CG.com actually hands out suspensions!

I read deliberate and besmirching racial slurs in the kibitzer cafe last week or two. What became of that? That sort of language has no place here in any public forum.

_ _ _ _

Thank you for helping me understand <Diademas>. I'm not trying to argue with you personally. I can see how things reached this point of frustration. I wholeheartedly agree that lines have to be drawn. Those lines should apply fairly to everyone, and be applied in a consistent, uniform manner by staff. (It's obvious that some staff will tolerate any sort of garbage from their buddies.)

No one staff member should be able to suspend another user. There should be some form of consensus.

Again, thank you <Diademas>. I've had my say and I hope <Messiah> continues to enjoy using this site.

Jan-03-22
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  Diademas: <Again, thank you <Diademas>. I've had my say and I hope <Messiah> continues to enjoy using this site.>

Yes, <Messiah> is clearly knowledgeable when it comes to chess. Let's hope this little slap on the wrist guides him into shearing this knowledge instead of making a fool of himself.

Jan-03-22  Messiah: BTW it was my second suspension here ever, and it was preceded with almost a full day spamming of fun under <specific> games, so I completely understand why the suspension happened, I just find the explanation hilarious.

Otherwise, I see no real and pressing problems with the moderating here, except when it comes to racism.

(the first suspension happened when I suggested deleting the Magnus Carlsen page and I was reported for this by one of my great friends here -> I laughed a lot on it, so ultimately it is a nice memory)

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