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Jan-19-23  stone free or die: Yeah for <stone>.

And boo for <Missy>'s provocative lamentations.

I'm surprised that <bippy> is also canvassing Susan so heavily.

Has he no pride, prostrating himself before such a powerful women, begging forgiveness and apologies?!

After all, his intentions were to go off and found a truly better platform for his brand of "Free Speech".

Kinda like Trump's truth platform - more floundering than foundering.

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Jan-19-23
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  MissScarlett: < He also wants a public apology. Now that's pushing it too far.>

If he feels himself unjustly accused, he can publicly defend himself in due course. Until then, the point is moot.

< Can we get an ETA on his return? I'm planning to quit the moment he returns.>

Remember, <Miss Susan> does not look kindly upon ultimata. But your logic escapes me - why would his presence now be intolerable when he's apparently been a member longer than you have?

Jan-19-23
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  moronovich: <Remember, <Miss Susan> does not look kindly upon ultimata. But your logic escapes me - why would his presence now be intolerable when he's apparently been a member longer than you have?>

The period <Stonehenge> has been a member has nothing to do with the <wallace/BP> issue.

Jan-19-23  stone free or die: <<Missy> Remember, <Miss Susan> does not look kindly upon ultimata. But your logic escapes me - why would his presence now be intolerable when he's apparently been a member longer than you have?>

Do you actually want to debate this one?

I'd be willing.

(Though perhaps <Rogoff> would be the better forum - but remember, it was our vaunted administrator/historian <Missy> who started this topic, and on the official <chessgames> forum.)

<Missy> is somehow arguing somehow that the length of <bippy>'s tenure at <CG> is relevant. But has s/he examined his behavior over the entire tenure?

I have.

For a long time he hardly posted on <CG> at all.

So let's try to keep some perspective on the length of membership vs. the intensity and corrosiveness of his non-chess posting once he switched into full-time religious/political combat/disrespect mode.

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Jan-19-23
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  MissScarlett: <<why would his presence now be intolerable when he's apparently been a member longer than you have?>

Do you actually want to debate this one?>

I'd rather <Stonehenge> answer it.

< But has s/he examined his behavior over the entire tenure?

I have.>

There you go, tracking people again.

<So let's try to keep some perspective on the length of membership vs. the intensity and corrosiveness of his non-chess posting once he switched into full-time religious/political combat/disrespect mode.>

Fair point - when do you say that this militancy occurred?

Jan-19-23  stone free or die: <<Missy> There you go, tracking people again.>

Yes, it's the internet. Your history is out there.

I've invited the same level of scrutiny, here and elsewhere.

* * * * *

<Fair point - when do you say that this militancy occurred?>

OK, this is a bit ironic. First I'm (unfairly) criticized for something I'm now being asked the details about?

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Jan-19-23  stone free or die: And also...

<<Missy> If he [i.e. <bippy> feels himself unjustly accused, he can publicly defend himself in due course. Until then, the point is moot.>

This is a moot point since <bippy> has posted on <CG> several times since the "alleged" hacking. Not once was there a denial of any kind - he spent his posting capitol entirely on whacked-fake-lib-lib-whacking sock.

So, this argument of <Missy>'s is a strawman - wanting to reinstate someone in the interest of allowing themselves to clear their name - when in reality, this person has zero interest in defending himself against any hacking accusation.

(Likely because such a defense would be moot)

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Jan-19-23
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  Susan Freeman: Ok kids. Enough is enough. Go to rogoff.
This is the wrong room
Jan-19-23
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  Stonehenge: OK, I'm sick and tired of this site.

<Susan>

I don't wish to be an editor anymore nor do I wish to have a Premium Membership anymore. Please, let Steve or Pete make the necessary changes.

I'm out.

Jan-19-23
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  Susan Freeman: <Stonehenge> sorry to hear that. Thank you for all you have done
Jan-19-23
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  OhioChessFan: Can you have a look at Rogoff and explain how the edit history shows me as having done something today?
Jan-19-23
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  OhioChessFan: My working theory is I must have accidentally clicked on Update Player Information, whereupon it saved but with no changes. That probably shouldn't be available for the masses without a "Are You Sure" click necessary, but okay. Anything else would concern me greatly.
Jan-19-23
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  OhioChessFan: Okay, I think I did in fact hit something on my mobile although I'm on a desktop. No worries.
Jan-19-23
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  MissScarlett: <This is a moot point since <bippy> has posted on <CG> several times since the "alleged" hacking. Not once was there a denial of any kind.>

I'm not sure if he has denied the alleged hacking; I was just responding to <Miss Susan>'s report which, at least to my ears, suggested such.

<wanting to reinstate someone in the interest of allowing themselves to clear their name>

That's not why I want him reinstated. I think he's a positive contributor to the site and has served his time. But if he wishes to publicly rebut the allegations against him, he should be allowed so to do.

If <Stonehenge> has left (temporarily, one trusts), I think I'm left as the sole super-editor - a frightening responsibility! May I suggest the promotion of User: jnpope?

Jan-19-23
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  Susan Freeman: <Miss > I already asked Steve. Things go slowly on the McDonald’s farm.
Jan-19-23
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  Susan Freeman: This is not the site to post a running obituary by all members of a resigned contributor. That's why. go to his private page please.
Jan-19-23
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  MissScarlett: I wonder how <AnnieK> is getting on.
Jan-20-23
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  Susan Freeman: <Miss> ask her.
Jan-20-23
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  juan31: < CG> The game 5, the champion lost. Where is it ??
Jan-20-23  stone free or die: <<Missy> I wonder how <AnnieK> is getting on.>

Stirring the pot again?!?

Ah, but who's tracking... carry on.

Jan-20-23
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  perfidious: <Teyss>, to my knowledge, has never posted political views anywhere; his posts are generally wryly humorous and as far from being political as one could imagine.
Jan-20-23  thegoodanarchist: < stone free or die:

<<<<Missy> I wonder how <AnnieK> is getting on.>>>

Stirring the pot again?>

A pop quiz! Although I graduated many years ago... once more into the breach!

<Ah, but who's tracking...>

I never liked being <given> the quiz answers. I preferred to be tested and see how I did in the next class. OK, whatever will be will be.

Jan-20-23  thegoodanarchist: < stone free or die: ...

<<Missy>... has s/he examined his behavior over the entire tenure?>

I have.>

Cyber stalking is nothing to brag about.

<So let's try to keep some perspective on... the intensity and corrosiveness of his non-chess posting...>

Confusing "subjectivity" with "objectivity". Very saddening.

Jan-20-23  thegoodanarchist: <stone free or die: ...I'm surprised that <bippy> is also canvassing Susan so heavily...

Has he no pride...?>

For his sake, let us hope so. After all, pride is known as the queen of vices.

<After all, his intentions were to go off and found a truly better platform for his <<<brand>>> of "Free Speech".>

There's no such thing as a "brand" of free speech. Either you are censored or you are <not> censored. It's binary.

Jan-20-23  thegoodanarchist: < moronovich:

<<<Remember, <Miss Susan> does not look kindly upon ultimata. But your logic escapes me - why would his presence now be intolerable when he's apparently been a member longer than you have?>>>

The period <Stonehenge> has been a member has nothing to do with the <wallace/BP> issue.>

Of course they are related, as <Stonehenge> himself hinted/indicated: <I'm planning to quit the moment he returns..>

Gate keeper's gonna gate keep, I guess.

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