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Sep-28-18  crawfb5: <GrahamClayton: What is the easiest way for me to update my player page to include a biography?>

Post the information here and one of the volunteer editors can add it to the biography on your player page.

Sep-29-18
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  Tabanus: Game Collection: Linares 1991, something like that. I'll nominate on Monday, with nitpicking before and/or after. I don't feel competent to write about young Kamsky - perhaps not mention him at all, if not "unable to fucus" is good enough for the one sentence.
Sep-29-18
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  OhioChessFan: Linares 91:

<He recovered after the loss and took 2nd place.>

I think it's worth adding the two words "to Ivanchuk" after "loss" to remind the readers of a pretty important historical event.

<Karpov had one of his worst tournaments. He said he was tired all the time. Not surprising, considering his match in December and the Reggio Emilia tournament (which he won) in January. >

The last is a sentence fragment. I think “his WCC match in December” is worth 3 characters to gently remind the readers of why he could rightly claim to be tired. I have tried to break the last line up, but it gets a bit clunky to have 4 sentences for about 30 words. Here’s a first try to fix things:

“Karpov had one of his worst-ever tournaments, and claimed he was tired the whole time. This wasn’t surprising, as he had just competed in the WCC match in December and the Reggios Emilia Tournament (which he won) in January.”

<The 16-year-old debutant Kamsky was unable to focus, >

There’s some reason for that claim. Did Kamsky say so, someone else say it about him, what? If not, it’s a bit of unwarranted mind-reading to explain an unsurprising result for a youngster in such a high caliber tournament.

<Rentero was happy with the number of decisive games (58%). >

Ditto for the reason/mind-reading.

Sep-29-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: a) <He recovered ...> Ok.

b) <Karpov had ...> Ok.

c) Kamsky was accompanied by his father. 1) The father did not want to deliver the score sheets to the organizer because he would get $500 for them in the US. Rentero threatened to fine him, they would not be invited again etc. and they were delivered in the end. 2) The father was rushed to hospital with chest pain on the day of Round 8. 3) I read somewhere it was speculated whether young Kamsky got unwell by the orange juice.

Anyway, lot of fuzz. What about <The 16-year-old debutant Kamsky was unable to concentrate>. Or delete it all.

d) If it helps, I added he was happy with the <high> number of decisive games.

Sep-29-18  Paint My Dragon: <Tab: I read somewhere it was speculated whether young Kamsky got unwell by the orange juice.>

Yes, there was an accusation from the Kamskys that Kasparov was paying the kitchen staff to poison them; they claimed it was an old trick back in the Soviet Union.

Undoubtedly, they invented the story to explain Gata's terrible performance, but it's not clear if it was said in a fully serious way, or would be laughed off as a joke, should someone challenge it.

Sep-29-18  zanzibar: Speaking of decisive games, here's an aside of an interesting post about game play vs. time of day:

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...

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Sep-30-18
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  OhioChessFan: <Anyway, lot of fuzz. What about <The 16-year-old debutant Kamsky was unable to concentrate>. Or delete it all.>

Who says he was unable to concentrate? At a bare minimum, "it was reported that" is called for.

<d) If it helps, I added he was happy with the <high> number of decisive games.>

Who says he was happy with the high number of decisive games? At a bare minimum, it should say "it was reported that". This is starting to wade into the territory that bothers me so much with uncited intros.

Sep-30-18
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  Tabanus: Who says the things in the bio. The uncited but available reports below the table say most of them. Rentero was so even so happy that he signed contracts for next year with some of the players right after the event ended.

<On the 16-year-old debutant Kamsky, it was reported that he probably was unable to concentrate, but he did manage to beat Ljubojevic and Ehlvest.> it is now.

<PMD> Aha. I'm not sure if this was during or after the event.

Sep-30-18  zanzibar: Stubified team match view of the 43e Olympiad:

43rd Chess Olympiad (2018) (kibitz #361)

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Oct-01-18
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  Tabanus: Game Collection: Linares 1991 nominated.

Still possible to nitpick, also after voting, and on the Linares events 1993-2010 too. The text in these is shorter.

Oct-01-18  Paint My Dragon: <Tab: Aha. I'm not sure if this was during or after the event.> No, I'm not sure either. I believe the interview that Kamsky gave to 'Inside Chess' goes into this, but I don't have it.

There were many disputes generated by the Kamsky camp. Danny King, in BCM, says they were able to sell the withheld scoresheets for $50 in New York (not the $500 you mentioned above, but who knows?). Rustam declared they were the property of the player, but FIDE rules specify that scoresheets are the property of the tournament. The sponsors, City of Linares, said they wanted the sheets as a memento of a great event.

Kamsky alleged that it was the arbiter that was breaking his concentration, and even threatened to quit the tournament over it. Meanwhile, people were complaining about Rustam's dress. He refused to change out of his tracksuit. Rustam also argued about the adjournment schedule, and was impolite with the organizer's staff, at one point receiving a ban from the tournament hall.

Moreover, according to BCM, the bad behaviour of the Kamsky camp caused the arbiter to <deduct a point> at the end, so his official tally was 1.5, rather than 2.5.

There is a nice quote from King: <"The problem is that the Kamskys believe they are something special and expect to have their every whim attended to. One way in which this manifests itself, is that Gata is not permitted, or does not want to hold post-mortems with any of the players except the two 'K's, considering that the others have more to learn from him, than he has from them!">

Other than this, Kasparov complained about the original pairings draw, which was done in contravention of FIDE rules, and of course resulted in him meeting Ivanchuk in round one; the one game he lost.

Rentero continued his policy of offering certain players £1000 bonuses for winning key encounters, and putting 'no draw' clauses in player contracts. Speelman thought the latter was very liberating: <" It's a wonderful feeling. For once I don't spend half the game thinking 'should I offer a draw?' or 'would I accept if he offered?'. You just get on with it.">

Anyway, you already have quite a full report, so don't feel you need to incorporate any of this. If there is something specific you would like to use, I will find the relevant citation, as the BCM stuff is spread across multiple articles.

Oct-01-18
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  Tabanus: <PMD> That's all interesting. I'm out of gas now, here's the deal: I copy your post to the TI page when voted in :)

Or, you post it there.

Oct-01-18  zanzibar: Thanks <PMD> for posting all that. The quote from Speelman is particularly interesting.
Oct-01-18  Paint My Dragon: You're welcome.
Oct-03-18  Retireborn: <Tab> Do you still have the Gillam booklet for Weston 1924? (many thanks for doing that tournament btw)

I'm interested in checking the score of

P D Bolland vs Euwe, 1924

particularly whether 68.Kd5 was really played, or if there is any comment on it.

Oct-03-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: <Retireborn> I don't have it, and probably did not have it in 2013 either. Things were a little more laissez-faire then ;)

Hmm yes, 68.Kd5 should have lost to 68...Rd1+

Oct-03-18  Retireborn: <Tab> OK, thanks. Will post my comments about that game a little later.
Oct-05-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  GrahamClayton: Here is my player page biography

Graham Clayton

(born Dec-23-1964, 53 years old) Australia

Graham Clayton was born in Seven Hills,NSW, and learnt the moves of chess at age 11. Graham played 4 years of junior chess with Mitchell High School in the NSW Junior Chess League between 1979 and 1982. Graham joined the CCLA in 1980, and has been an active CC player both within Australia and overseas since then. Graham won the prize for the best played game at the 1994 Norfolk Island Chess Festival.

Oct-05-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: Takeaway - his name is Graham.
Oct-05-18  crawfb5: <Graham> Done. Let us know of any future changes you'd like.
Oct-06-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: According to Susan Freeman chessforum (kibitz #100), we can now make a wish list there of all the games we want to have uploaded.
Oct-13-18  micahtuhy: I just read the biographical data here on chessgames.com, and it says Paulsen placed second at Baden Baden 1870. This is incorrect, as Paulsen placed sole fifth behind Anderssen, Steinitz, Blackburne, and Gustav Neumann. Who might make the correction?
Oct-17-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sargon: Does anyone have an opinion regarding the assignment of tournament starting dates in the database? I believe that traditionally the starting date has been the date of the first round--NOT the date of the opening ceremonies.

Or has this policy already been determined?

Oct-17-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  moronovich: <I believe that traditionally the starting date has been the date of the first round--NOT the date of the opening ceremonies.>

Good question.As far as I have noticed, it is often the date of the opening ceremony which is announced.But I believe it is in the blood of chess fans to check(no pun intended:)for themselves..

At least it is good to be alert.

Oct-17-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Annie K.: My opinion is that the date of the first round is the one relevant to us, because in the cases when we are going to relay the tournament, the date should match the day members will show up expecting to see a live relay. :)

We don't have to care what day the organizers start paying the hotel rooms for the players...

The organizers' date usually gets into the blurb when the intro is copied from an official site. Chess24, another relay site, for example, usually uses the first round's date in their writeups too. It's just more practical.

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