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|Jun-29-09|| ||Knight13: 17...Qd7 is better. 17...Kg7 is a bit too early.
Most players, as Black, would've panicked in the end thinking that White is winning. But they're not Karpov are they? :-O
|Jan-23-11|| ||Whitehat1963: Really tough game for Guess the Move.|
|Sep-06-11|| ||thequeenisdead: Beautiful game.|
|Dec-11-12|| ||Garech: Wow, had not seen this little beauty before - will try and think up a pun.|
|Jun-25-13|| ||offramp: Thought of that pun yet?|
|Nov-27-13|| ||karan10: What a game!!! Karpov made a wonderful endgame with his rooks and not moving hi knight|
|Nov-25-14|| ||Howard: This was undoubtedly one of the best games of the match, in my view. |
So, if Kasparov had played 58.c7 (rather than push the a-pawn), then
the position was still an absolute loss for him, correct /
Any comments ?
|Nov-25-14|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: 58. c7 would have given practical chances to hold but 59...Rcc1 does win -- Kasparov notes this in "On Modern Chess" (Vol. III, pp. 186-7).|
|Jan-01-16|| ||offramp: <Garech: Wow, had not seen this little beauty before - will try and think up a pun.
I've got a good pun for you, Garech! <A Fridge Too Far>!
|May-22-17|| ||pilobolus: I alway had a feeling that Karpov
was somehow robbed of his title
in this double match!
It took Kasparov more then 50 (!) games
to beat Karpov two times. And he learned
a lot during these half hundred games!
If I am rght the score those two World champion
matches benefit Karpov by two!
Karpov was robbed.
|May-22-17|| ||offramp: Well done, Garech! I believe the pun is based on this 8 second piece of video.|
|May-22-17|| ||morfishine: <offramp> absolutely hilarious, I played it 10 times in a row, and laughed each time he said "Hey Fatty"|
|May-22-17|| ||HeMateMe: so many KK games are classics, fantastic. How does Karpov defend these positions? Kaspy must have been pulling his hair out doing the post mortems...|
|May-22-17|| ||Ironmanth: What a game!|
|May-22-17|| ||kevin86: Karpov wins this one! yet,another brilliancy!|
|May-22-17|| ||cunctatorg: <The only problem with the description above is that Kasparov's attack (conducted very creatively all across the board, not just on the K-side) was actually winning... he missed Bc5! twice, on moves 38-39 (and before that 28.c4!), and with 39.a5? handed Karpov the control over the game. From that point on, Karpov's play was indeed impressive>|
Any chess game isn't the proof of a mathematical theorem! Any chess game is mostly a fight as chess is life at the edge... Therefore you shouldn't judge chess games by the standards of mathematics (aka perfection) but by the depth of the relevant difficulties that every player has to overcome...
It honestly seems to me that chess here was superhuman!!...
|May-22-17|| ||cunctatorg: I wonder if the twentieth-first century will witness a duel comparable with the Kasparov-Karpov one or even with the Karpov-Korchnoi duel...|
|May-22-17|| ||HeMateMe: magnus has no Karpov to challenge him...|
|May-22-17|| ||cunctatorg: Imho Magnus Carlsen is neither Kasparov nor Karpov ... but it is just me.|
Anyways Magnus insists to play one WCC match every year and particularly one match with no more than 16 games though himself and almost all the contenders are quite young; too much inflation that is in these annual WCC matches, less preparation and much less in stake...
|May-22-17|| ||offramp: I am SO pleased that I know how to play chess and that I can play though these games.|
|May-22-17|| ||RandomVisitor: After 36...Qd7
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Komodo-10.1-64bit: <43 minutes computer time>
<+4.36/32 37.Qd4 Ra7 38.Bc5> Qxd4 39.Bxd4 Rd7 40.Rb8 e5 41.Bxe5 Rg5 42.Bf4 Rg8 43.a5 Ng7 44.a6 Rxb8 45.Bxb8 Rd5 46.Bc7 Ne8 47.Bb6 Rb5 48.a7 Rb1+ 49.Kd2 Ra1 50.Rh8 Ke7 51.Ke3 Ra4 52.g3 Kd7 53.Kf4 e3+ 54.Kxe3 Re4+ 55.Kd3 Ra4 56.Rf8 Ra3 57.Kd4 Ra6 58.Ke5 Nc7 59.Bxc7 Rxa7 60.Bb6 Ra6 61.Rb8
+1.14/32 37.Qd2 Qxd2+ 38.Kxd2 Rg7 39.Rb7+ Kg8 40.Rxg7+ Nxg7 41.a5 Ra6 42.c4 Ne8 43.Kc3 Kg7 44.Rh1 Nf6 45.Ra1 Nd7 46.Kd4 Kf7 47.Rh1 Nf6 48.g3 Ra8 49.Ra1 Rd8+ 50.Ke5 Rd3 51.Ra3 Nd7+ 52.Kf4 Rd4 53.a6 Rxc4 54.a7 Nb6 55.Ba5 Na8 56.Bd2 Kf6 57.Ra5 Rc2 58.Be3 Rc4 59.Ra6 Ra4 60.Rc6
+0.39/32 37.Rb6 Rxa4 38.Qd4 Qxd4 39.Rb7+ Nc7 40.cxd4 Rxb4 41.Rxc7+ Ke8 42.g3 Rxd4 43.Rxe6+ Kd8 44.Ra7 Rh8 45.Rg6 Ke8 46.Ke2 Rd7 47.Ra5 Rf8 48.Ke3 Rb7 49.Kf4 Rff7 50.Rg8+ Kd7 51.Rh8 Kd6 52.Rh6+ Ke7 53.Re5+ Kd7 54.Rd5+ Ke7 55.Rxf5 Rb2 56.Rh2 e3 57.Rxf7+ Kxf7 58.Kxe3 Kf6 59.Rh7
|May-22-17|| ||RandomVisitor: After 27...Kf7, 28.c4 is good, also 28.Be2 and 28.Ke2|
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<+3.66/34 28.c4> Nd7 29.Bxc6 Nxe5 30.Qh5+ Kf8 31.Bxa8 Nxh5 32.Rb8+ Qe8 33.Rxe8+ Kxe8 34.Rxh5 Kf7 35.Bb7 Kg6 36.Rh1 Rb8 37.c6 Rd8 38.cxd5 Rxd5 39.Ke2 Rc5 40.Rh8 Nxc6 41.Bxc6 Rxc6 42.Ra8 Rc5 43.Ra6 Rc2 44.Rxa5 Ra2 45.Ra6 Kf7 46.Kd3 g4 47.Ne4 c6 48.g3 f5 49.Nc5 Rxf2 50.Rxc6 Rg2 51.a5 Rxg3 52.a6 f4 53.Rxe6 fxe3 54.a7 e2+ 55.Kxe2 Rg2+ 56.Kd3 Ra2 57.Ra6 Rxa6
+3.24/34 28.Be2 Nd7 29.Bxc7 Nxc5 30.Qh5+ Kf8 31.Qh2 e5 32.Qh6 Be8 33.Rb6 Qxc7 34.Rxf6+ Bf7 35.Bh5 Ra6 36.Rxa6 Nxa6 37.Bxf7 Kxf7 38.Qxa6 Qxc3 39.Rh6 Re8 40.Qb7+ Re7 41.Qxd5+ Re6 42.Kd1 Qa1+ 43.Ke2 Qxa4 44.Ne4 Qxe4 45.Qxe4 Rxh6 46.Qxe5 Ne6 47.Qxa5 Rh4 48.g4 Rh1 49.Qb4 Rc1 50.Qb7+ Rc7 51.Qb2 Ke7 52.f3 Rc5 53.Kf2 Kd6 54.Qb8+ Rc7 55.Qb4+
+3.12/34 28.Ke2 Bxb5+ 29.axb5 Nd7 30.Bxc7 Qxc5 31.b6 Nf8 32.Qh5+ Ng6 33.c4 Rac8 34.Rb5 Qc6 35.b7 Qxc7 36.bxc8Q Rxc8 37.cxd5 exd5 38.Rxd5 a4 39.Qg4 Nf8 40.Qxa4 Nxh7 41.Rd7+ Kg6 42.Rxc7 Rxc7 43.Qb4 Ra7 44.g4 Rf7 45.Nf3 Nf8 46.Nd4 Kh6 47.Qd6 Ng6 48.Nc6 Ne8 49.Qd5 Rf8 50.Qe4 Ng7 51.Ne7 Nh4 52.Qc6 Ne8 53.Qe6 Kg7 54.Qd7
|May-22-17|| ||eternaloptimist: Wow! What a great game by Karpov! Earlier in the game I thought that Karpov was *probably* going to lose b/c Kasparov had such a strong attack going (looked strong anyway). Although Karpov played well defensively, turned the game around & actually won it. Karpov has played many brilliant games in his life but this has to be 1 of his best! My favorite chess player found a way to get the job done. Karpov & Petrosian have to be considered 2 of the best defensive players of all time.|
|May-23-17|| ||HeMateMe: <Imho Magnus Carlsen is neither Kasparov nor Karpov ... but it is just me.>|
Wasn't Carlsen ranked in the world top five at around age 17? That would put him just around where Kasparov was, at the same time, at least in playing strength. That's why MC is on another level in today's chess, just as Kasparov was as a young world champion.
|May-27-17|| ||offramp: <cunctatorg: I wonder if the twentieth-first century will witness a duel comparable with the Kasparov-Karpov one or even with the Karpov-Korchnoi duel...>|
The McDonnell-LaBourdonnais rivalry was for a long time the longest rivalry in chess history: 85 games. That was in 1834.
Between 1921 and 1938 Alekhine and Euwe played 78 games.
Then starting from the 1940s there were some big rivalries.
Botvinnik and Smyslov played 105 games together, mainly in WC matches.
Karpov and Kortschnoi: 108 games.
Karpov and Timman: 102 games so far.
Karpov and Kasparov played a mind boggling 193 games, according to cg.com. I think it is over 200.
But I think that that figure will be beaten in the future. For example, Carlsen and Nakamura have played 80 games, and they are both still very young. That includes ALL chess, but that is the way chess is nowadays. It is all pretty rapid.
They will have to go it a bit to beat the greatest rivalry of them all:
<"John Cochrane beat Bonnerjee Mohishunder 282 to 127, with 39 draws.">
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