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Aug-11-04
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| ashalpha: 58. Rg8 Kf2 59. Kc2 Kf1 60. Rf8 Ke2 61. Re8 Kf3 62. Rf8 Bf4! and the f pawn is unstoppable. |
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| Aug-12-04 |
| checkpat: Thank you asalpha: its clear now. |
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Aug-12-04
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| ashalpha: I skipped f2 should be 60. Rf8 f2 61. Rf7 Ke2 62. Re7 Kf3 63. Rf7 Bf4!. |
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| Dec-03-04 |
| kostich in time: According to Bronstein, Fine missed a draw..but where? |
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| Dec-03-04 |
| maddy: what if 33 ...Nc1 ?? |
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| Dec-03-04 |
| learnChess1980: <maddy: what if 33 ...Nc1 ??> 34. NC3 35. Bf6 Nb1 |
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| Dec-29-04 |
| WMD: <According to Bronstein, Fine missed a draw..but where?> The line given is 40.Rxe1 Bxa3 41.Kd3 Bb4 42.Kc2 and Black's bishop is misplaced compared to the game. By playing 39...Bh4, Keres could have eliminated this resource. |
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Dec-29-04
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| iron maiden: <WMD> After that line, Fine gave 42...Kf7 43. Re5 Bd3 44. Rxf5+ Kg6 45. Rb5 Bxh2 46. Kxc3 Be5+! 47. Kd3 Kf4 48. Ke3 g5 as winning for Black. |
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| Dec-30-04 |
| WMD: Some mistakes there in notation, but I get the drift. It probably means that White should preserve his h2 pawn. Then I can foresee Black having difficulty making progress. |
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Dec-30-04
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| iron maiden: Yeah, I figured there were probably some mistakes, since I copied it very quickly from descriptive. According to Fine, his last chance was 27. Nxf5 (instead of 27. Bd2?) Bf6 28. Bf4 and "White should have no real trouble securing a draw." |
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| Dec-30-04 |
| WMD: There's a fine line between success and failure. |
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| Apr-19-05 |
| Runemaster: Could White have played 38.Kxd3 Bxe3 39.Kxc3? He cleans up the passed pawns. If Black plays instead 38...Be1 to protect the c3 pawn, he's a rook down and White should be able to fairly easily win the c3 pawn anyway. Or am I missing something? |
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| Apr-19-05 |
| aw1988: It looks drawish, naturally; black will be a pawn up vs two isolated pawns, but white still has the rook. |
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| Apr-19-05 |
| aw1988: Actually, I might prefer black to be honest; those pawns are still looking good. |
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| Apr-19-05 |
| Hesam7: <aw1988> congratulations for the new avater!! <runemaster> The line I see is: 38.Kxd3 Bxe3 39.Kxc3 Bc1 And the resulting ending is easily won for Black because of the majority in the king side. Instead of above line White can also try: 38.Kxd3 Bxe3 39.Kc2 Bd2 40.Rg1 Kf7 Now the rook is free to move, but again Black is easily winning. |
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Dec-24-06
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| notyetagm: <Legend: Keres once said that this is the best game he ever played.
Very good game indeed!>
Wow, what a great game by Keres.
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| Jan-13-07 |
| Themofro: Great game by Keres. |
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| Jan-13-07 |
| rigel1503: An example of how Black's kingside majority is decisive when White's rook is locked in at b1:
38. Kxd3 Bxe3 39. Kxc3 Bc1 40. Rxb2 Bxb2+ 41. Kxb2 Kf7 42. Kc2 Kg6 43. Kd3 Kg5 44.Ke3 Kh4 45. Kf2 Kh3 46. Kg1 g5 47. Kh1 h5 48. Kg1 g4 49. fxg4 hxg4 (Much better than 49. ... fxg4 as now the 'f' pawn is passed) 50. Kh1 g3 (NOT 50. ... f4 51. Kg1 f3? (51. ... g3 would still win) 52. Kh1 f2 STALEMATE!! or 52. ... g3 53. hxg3 Kxg3 54. Kg1 (White now has the opposition) 54. ... f2+ 55. Kf1 Kf3 STALEMATE!) 51. hxg3 Kxg3 52. Kg1 Kf3 53. Kf1 f4 (Black now has the opposition) 54. Ke1 Kg2 and Black wins |
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| Jan-13-07 |
| GrandPatzerSCL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We%27r... Track 9 of the album is called "We're All in This Together" and is a really catchy song. The whole movie is very good with nice singing throughout, though I recommend it to high school students of younger. |
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| Jan-13-07 |
| GrandPatzerSCL: Oh yeah, and a nice endgame by Keres. Look how Keres weakens Fine's pawns tremendously, producing isolated, and even doubled pawns for him to attack!! I've learned to overlook such moves as 15 ...Bxf3 in order to retain the endgame advantage of the bishop, but I guess to play against isolated doubled pawns are better than keeping the +0.5 of the Bishop Pair, right? |
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Jan-13-07
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| Calli: I am guessing that Fine played 27.Bd2? instead of 27.Nxf5 as <iron maiden> mentions because after 27...d5! 28.Bxb4 Rxb4, he intended 29.Rxe7 Kxe7 30.Nc6+ but then realized that the ending 30... Kd6 31.Nxb4 dxc4 32.bxc4 is lost for him. |
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| Jan-13-07 |
| aldehyde: small mistakes of middle game pay heavily in end games. as you see that in end game, white has little control over his pawns. and i think that it all began when white's 'f' pawn was doubled.
i know that it sounds quite orthodox to talk about double pawns, but seriously, i dont think that 12. Qxb5 is a gr8 move. loosing an e pawn to gain a c pawn costing the f pawns to get doubled is no gr8 concept. i also support the notion that there were sm things wrong with the opening of white. y in the world he takes out his queen in an immature position? |
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Jan-13-07
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| notyetagm: I believe that Keres said that this game was one of the best he ever played. |
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Jan-13-07
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| Calli: Reuben Fine knew the opening theory of the day. This sharp line had just been played in Book vs C H Alexander, 1938 where White won after 12.Qxb5 Na5 13.Bc2 Nxe4 14.Nxe5! Keres 12...Na7! is an improvement. Some years later, it was discovered that White can then equalize with the complicated 13.Qa5! See D Ilievski vs A Matanovic, 1968 |
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Jan-13-07
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| kevin86: The GOTD is one of the best features of this site! Here is an opportunity to see a great game,even it is almost seventy years old.We have a brilliant endgame by Paul Keres-showing the extreme power of advanced pawns. White's rook was unable to hold off black's queen side pawns,though it was the lone king side pawn that did him in.e |
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