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Wiede vs Alphonse Goetz
Strassburg - 1880  ·  King's Gambit: Accepted. Orsini Gambit (C33)  ·  0-1
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Feb-13-06  Caligula: That was funny as hell. Very rarely do you see a promotion on turn 7.
Mar-20-06  McCool: He got Wiede -d, 3. b3?????? WOW
Apr-24-06  MorphyMatt: H Reinle vs Lange, 1936
Apr-24-06  MorphyMatt: moving nothing but king and pawns can't be good...
Jan-11-07  Rubenus: <MorphyMatt: moving nothing but king and pawns can't be good...> There is a ten-move-game in one of my game collections in which white only moves his pawns...and wins!
Jan-16-07  Tactic101: LOL! This is so embrassing. I felt like saying "Excuse me sir, you are supposed to make a move on the opposite side." But this game is pretty comic. I love gxh1=N#!!
Feb-18-07  Rubenus: It is Kujoth vs Fashingbauer, 1950 (the first ten moves were all pawn moves).
Sep-29-07
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  Infohunter: I think it is entirely possible that White was such a rank beginner that he just pushed Pawns forward, hoping for the best, while having no slightest inkling what he was actually doing. This is made all the more plausible by the fact that, in that game, White moved nothing but Pawns, save when he was obliged by the Laws of Chess to move his King out of check. It is entirely possible, in fact, that Black had to inform him of this obligation at the appropriate turns.
Feb-20-08  D.Observer: A good Tuesday puzzle might be found here, asking for the seventh black move.
Aug-07-08  amuralid: <iron maiden: Wow...this is a rout, even for NN. Is this the only game in history where mate was delivered by promotion to a knight? >

Just a little late ... Kramnik tried something similar in a blindfold game against Kamsky. Kamsky vs Kramnik, 1994

Jan-13-09  WhiteRook48: 4. Ke2 was better.
Jan-13-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  DarthStapler: I think white must have been smoking wiede when he played this game
Jan-31-09  WhiteRook48: those gambits are so bad for white
Jun-07-09  stevenmeow: when i manually drag the pawn to capture the rook, it turns into a queen.

hmm
is there a way to fix this?

Jun-07-09
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  Phony Benoni: I just happen to have an issue of the <Lower Slobbovian Journal of Chess> which gives a full account of this game, and can translate the story for you.

After <1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4>, Wiede noticed that several of his pawns were off center. He adjusted, in order, his b-, h-, and g-pawns, then played 3.Nf3.

"Wait a minute!" said Goetz, who was an unpleasant fellow. "You touched your b-pawn--you have to move it."

"But I was just adjusting", replied Wiede.

"Then you should have said <j'adoube>".

"But I don't speak French!"

"Makes no difference! Move the b-pawn."

Secretly, Goetz was hoping for 3.b4 so he could snatch another pawn, but when Wiede avoided the trap with <3.b3> he reluctantly played <3...Qh4+>. Wiede tried 4.Ke2, but Goetz was alert.

"Wait a minute! You also touched your g-pawn! You must interpose it!"

"What are you talking about? Touch-move isn't retroactive!"

"In this town it is. We're a law-and-order community."

"And anyway, I touched the h-pawn first."

"But that doesn't get you out of check. The rule is that you must move the first piece touched that can be legally moved. You can move the h-pawn next."

So the game continued <4.g3 fxg3 5.h3 g2+ 6.Ke2 Qxe4+ 7.Kf2 gxh1>

"And that's a knight", shouted Goetz gleefully, "With mate!"

"Whaddya mean, knight? You touched my rook; don't you have to promote to a rook?"

"Read the rules, dummy! I can get any piece I like."

"OK, you know the rules. But what's this knight you're talking about?"

"You know. Springer. Caballero. Horsie."

"I don't see one on the board."

"Well, I don't happen to have a third knight handy."

"Then it doesn't exist! Seeing is believing! You think I'm a Platonist or something?"

At this point, the kindly old arbiter arrived at the board, and placed a friendly hand on Wiede's shoulder. "Look, my friend, it is clearly in your best interests to allow the knight promotion with mate. I have watched your play, and the only way you'll ever reach immortality in chess is to go for negative immortality. You can be another Kieseritsky! Another Dufresne! Another Levitsky! You may even outrank Systemsson!

Wiede's response to this was one of those Lower Slobbovian words with which I am not familiar, but perhaps that's for the best. What I can tell is that he gave up chess forever and changed his name to Charles Berlitz.

Sep-26-09
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  fm avari viraf: < Phony Benoni: Lovely story about Wiede vs Goetz 1880, I went thro' twice & enjoyed. > You are now on my favourite list.
Aug-07-10
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  FSR: Excellent piece of "detective work" by Phony Benoni! Thanks!
Nov-19-10
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  Infohunter: <Rubenus: <MorphyMatt: moving nothing but king and pawns can't be good...> There is a ten-move-game in one of my game collections in which white only moves his pawns...and wins!>

<Rubenus: It is Kujoth vs Fashingbauer, 1950 (the first ten moves were all pawn moves).>

Ever see this one: Marshall vs H Rogosin, 1940 ?

Dec-17-10
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  Infohunter: <stevenmeow: when i manually drag the pawn to capture the rook, it turns into a queen.

hmm
is there a way to fix this?>

Just before you make the move to promote the Pawn, right-click the board. One of the items on the pop-up menu will say "Pawn promotes to..." followed by a drop-menu of choices. Select your choice, then make your move, and the Pawn will promote to the piece of your choice.

Dec-17-11
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  WannaBe: That's one fast moving pawn!!
Dec-17-11  Penguincw: Um. White played pretty poorly in this game.
Mar-18-12  Brecker: 4. g3?!
5. h3?
6. Ke2??
7. Kf2???
This is the troll 2 of chess games...
Apr-08-12  kontoleon: this is look like helpmate!
Mar-25-13
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  Abdel Irada: <McCool: He got Wiede -d, 3. b3?????? WOW>

Amazingly, 3. b3 is a real line; it's called the Orsini Variation. I'm not sure it's precisely what one would call a *good* choice for White, but it's not a forced loss.

The game didn't really venture into Miniatureville until Wiede destroyed his own kingside with 4. g3? and sealed his fate with 5. h3?? (There's no point criticizing 6. Ke2 or 7. Kf2 because both moves were forced.)

Mar-25-13  apexin: <Phony Benoni>
Funny story there.
Hehe, Black played like me after after 0,5 litre of bolshevik vodka. Thats the best Russian discovery, accually. Maybe only the Lajka dog beats it.
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