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| Aug-03-13 | | GrandMaesterPycelle: This game is too famous to be a puzzle. Yes, I solved it too, because I' ve gone through it many times. |
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| Aug-03-13 | | BalaKKa: I dont think Tarrasch couldn't see the line Qg3+ Qf2+ Qe2#. I think he just prefers the game variation, cause it's more a nice checkmate, and foced as well. |
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| Aug-03-13 | | SimonWebbsTiger: I complained the Kramnik-Carlsen endgame was too well known a while back. Ditto for Herr Doktor Tarrasch's double bishop sacrifice. |
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Aug-03-13
 | | Richard Taylor: I played this game over a week or so ago. I also played it when I went through all (or most) of Tarrasch's games in Reinfeld's book of his games which uses his annotations. Fascinating games of all kinds. |
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Aug-03-13
| | Richard Taylor: I am sure I also know this from learning combinations in the 60s esp. in a book of master games, possibly Reti's or a book by Ruebin Fine. |
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| Aug-03-13 | | Abdel Irada: <<•> Double, double <•>> I have somehow *not* seen this game before, or if I have, it is lost in the fogs of an aging Mnemosyne. But I have actually been in a quite similar position with colors reversed (in a blitz game, of all things), and here, as in my game, the position shrieks for a double bishop sacrifice. The "main line" goes something like this:
<<•> 19. ...Bxh2†!> There goes the cornerstone of White's royal palace.
<<•> 20. Kxh2 ... > Worse is 20. Kh1, Qh4  .
<<•> 20. ...Qh4†21. Kg1, Bxg2! >
And there goes the rest of the foundation. Henceforth White's king is Saddam Hussein: a hunted vagabond in his own land. <<•> 22. Kxg2 ... > The only alternative is (a) 22. f4, Qg3 (threatening 23. ...Be4†), and White has no adequate defense. <<•> 22. ...Qg4†23. Kh2/h1, Rd5 >
This is not a complete analysis; I have left out many variations, and I may have missed something. Be warned. ;-) ∞ |
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| Aug-03-13 | | Abdel Irada: Well, I did say I might have missed something: Apparently 22. f4? was not the *only* alternative to taking the bishop. Analyze in haste, repent at leisure. :-S
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Aug-03-13
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| Aug-03-13 | | Tigranny: One of my favorite games of all time. |
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| Aug-03-13 | | Abdel Irada: As usual, <chrisowen> has not only correctly solved the puzzle, but done it in a cipher almost worthy of the cryptographic skills of an Alan Turing. But can <chrisowen> pass the Turing Test? ∞ |
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| Aug-03-13 | | dufferps: I thought white should have played 22.Kxg2, but now I see that white would have no defense after 22. ... Qg4+ and 23. ... Rd5 (threatening ... Rh5). |
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| Aug-03-13 | | kevin86: Funny,it seems like black is sacrificing all over the p[lace;material remains about even...and white's king is chased to heck! |
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| Aug-03-13 | | Strongest Force: Didn't Kasparov do basically the same thing as white against Portisch? |
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Aug-03-13
 | | Jimfromprovidence: There's a very pleasing game clinching interference move coming out of the 19...Bxg2 line. It goes 20 Kxg2 Qg5+ 21 Kh1 Qf4 (with a mate in one threat). 
click for larger view Following is 22 Nf3 Qxf3+ 23 Kg1 cxd4 (23...Bxh2+ works just as well) 24 Qc6. 
click for larger view Now comes 24...Bxh2+ Kxh2 Rd5!
click for larger view |
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| Aug-03-13 | | Once: Not so much a puzzle as spending quality time with an old friend. The final mating position is surely a bit of permissible showboating. A thought occurs. We have double rook sacrifices and double bishop sacrifices, but not, so far as I am aware, double knight sacs. At least, not typical double knight sacs - I am sure there are individual games where two nags fall in quick succession (in England we call that the Grand National) but I can't think of any common patterns where two gee gees meet their end. Of course, for those with longer memories we do have Rolf Harris with "two little boys" - a title that would probably get you locked up these days. But while he had the opportunity to sac four horses in total, the two he did send to the great sausage machine in the sky were one wooden and one proto beef burger. A lost opportunity if you ask me. |
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| Aug-03-13 | | morfishine: <Once> Here's a Double Knight sac for your viewing enjoyment: Stanishevsky vs Nikonov, 1981 ***** |
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| Aug-03-13 | | M.Hassan: "Very Difficult"
Black to play 19...?
Black is a pawn down.
I first tried:
19...........Qh4 threatening mate on h2
20.g3 Qh3 threatening mate on g2
21.f3 blocks the long diagonal and Queen can deliver mate on g2 I then tried:
19.........Bxh2+
21.Kxh2 Qh4+
22.Kg1 Qg4 threatening mate on g2
23.f3
<if... Bxf3 24.Nxf3>
Therefore, this line also dosn't work and besides, the above lines were easy and not very difficult to see. The fact that both Bishops are "eyeing" towards Black King's camp I was sure that the solution should start with a Bishop sac and then I tried LSB sac.: 19...........Bxg2
20.Kxg2 Qg5+
21.Kh3 Qh5+
22.Kg2
(...Qxh2+ makes King run away>
22...........Qg4+
23.Kh1 Qf4 threatening mate on h2
24.Kg2 Rfe8
<if 25.Rfe1 Qxh2+ 26.Kf3 Qh3#> 25.Rg1 Re2
26.Rcf1 Rde8
White has to protect h2 to at least delay attack of Black 27.Nf3 Qg4+
28.Kh1 Qxf3+
29.Rg2 Rxc2
Whitee has become weakened and Black should win in several moves |
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| Aug-03-13 | | James D Flynn: White is a pawn up and the Black squares around the casted Black king have been weakened, on his next move he could play 20.Rfe1 Qh4 21.Nf1 securing his K-side, however the 2 Black Bs point ominously toward the castled White K, the Black Q has swift access to the G5 and h4 and the R on d8 can be lifted Rd5 then to g5 or h5.. This looks like a case for the classic double B sacrifice to open the White K-side.
19……Bxh2+ 20.Kxh2(if Kh1 Qh4 there is no answer to the threat 22…..Bg6+ 23.Kg1 Qh2#) Qh4 21.Kg1 Bxg2 (else f3 poses real problems for the attack) 22.f4(IF Kxg2 Qg4+ 23.Kh1 Rd5 and Rh5 will mate now the lift will not work because of f5) Qg3(threat Bf3 or anywhere on the long diagonal and Q g2# 23.Rf2 (escape square f1) Be4+ 24.Kf1 Bxc2(if now 25.Rxc2 Qd3+ wins the R 1f 25.Rf3 Bd3+ forces26.Rxd3 Qxd3+ and Black’s material advantage is overwhelming). |
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Aug-03-13
 | | ray keene: I wrote the notes to this game but Kasparov has subsequently demonstrated ( MGP VOL 1) that Tarrasch got it wrong-even though his attack is beautiful and impressive. 19...Bxg2 is the best move not ...Bxh2+. |
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| Aug-03-13 | | BOSTER: <Sneaky> <So where did Nimzowitsch go wrong?>. Maybe nice 12.Nh4! was premature.
But if I played 12.Nh4, I'd not retreat.
My opinion that is better to play 13.g3, because this knight on h4 can't be attacked without further weaknesses in black camp.
When Lasker played vs Bauer, Nimzo was a child to know this game. |
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| Aug-03-13 | | Marmot PFL: <ray keene:> I remember the notes from your Nimzovich book, one of the best books I have. |
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Aug-03-13
 | | perfidious: <Marmot PFL: <ray keene:> I remember the notes from your Nimzovich book, one of the best books I have.> A classic. |
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Aug-03-13
| | ray keene: thanks very much-but even in such classic games there is always much new knowledge to be unearthed! |
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Aug-03-13
 | | Penguincw: I got the first move right. ;) |
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| Aug-03-13 | | Patriot: <<morfishine>: If its no fair using your memory, then no one will post: this game is too famous.> I'm happy that I've never seen this (to my recollection) so I really had to think on it. I calculated the exact game line thru 22.f3 but didn't figure on 22...Re8 at that point. And I figured what could have happened with 22.Kxg2 Qg4+ 23.Kh2 Rd5. I considered 21...Qg4, but that didn't look convincing enough. |
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