| Oct-08-03 |
| aulero: Liebert played like Morphy. Uhlmann is surely a true sportsman: he could resign after 25... xd2, instead he allowed the opponent to mate him in the most artistic way! |
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Nov-22-03
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| mjk: <... he allowed...>
Yes, a pretty final position, but a bit of a helpmate, since other moves hold out longer. |
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| Nov-22-03 |
| rochade18: Yes, but there would be enough advantage for black to win anyway. I think Uhlmann was so impressed with this combination that he accepted it or he had no time left. |
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| Nov-22-03 |
| drukenknight: what is wrong w/ 16 Qxb8? |
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| Nov-22-03 |
| Alchemist: dk, it looks like Qxb8 Bb7 with double attack Rxb8 or Qh5# |
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Nov-22-03
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| Hoozits: Tell me if I'm wrong, but it looks as though any other line of defense loses the rook on f1. |
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| Nov-22-03 |
| Eggman: <instead he allowed the opponent to mate him in the most artistic way!> I think that resigning after 26...Ng5 would have been more aesthetically pleasing: Black's Queen and Knight would both be hanging in the final position. Playing a second-best, not-at-all forced move like 27.Qxe2 undermines the beauty of the game, for me at least. |
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| Nov-22-03 |
| Bears092: How can allowing your opponent to mate while down down the exchange and a queen undermine the beauty? sheer madness. |
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| Nov-22-03 |
| FeArMySkiLLz: <Bears092> Its was a mistake..like people make All the time |
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| Nov-22-03 |
| Eggman: <FeArMySkiLLz>: I don't believe that 27.Qxe2 was a mistake. Uhlman almost certainly saw what was coming, but he was lost anyway (e.g. 27.h4 Nh3+ 28.Kh2 Qxf1 29.f3 Bxf3) and decided upon what he thought was an artistic finish. <Bears092: "How can allowing your opponent to mate while down down the exchange and a queen undermine the beauty? Sheer madness."> The ALLOWING is what undermines the beauty. Surely a forcing combination is, all other things being equal, far more beautiful than a sequence that isn't forced. As it stands the game ends with White PURPOSELY making the WORST move available (27.Qxe2), because it leads to a prettier finish than a better, but nonetheless losing move like 27.h4. What undermines the beauty is the precise fact that 27.Qxe2 is bad and unnecessary. This is why White should have just resigned. And how can resigning in a position in which the opponent's Queen and Knight are hanging not be beautiful? Sheer madness. |
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| Nov-22-03 |
| thesonicvision: that's genius. |
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| Nov-22-03 |
| Dick Brain: This problem isn't too tough if they tell you white to play and win. I'd miss it otherwise though. |
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| Nov-22-03 |
| dalilama: yea dick brain, it was so easy to see whites win here right? I mean just look at how white dominates the game... |
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Nov-24-03
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| kevin86: Sudden death |
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| Nov-25-03 |
| Dick Brain: Ah dalilama yeah I meant black to play and win. That would be even better. |
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| Feb-02-04 |
| catfriend: <Eggman> Surely a quiet, non-forced move that wins 100% nontheless is better than a forced one-lined attack! |
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| Feb-02-04 |
| catfriend: <IMO> at least of course..
And if you"ll remember Taimanov vs Petrosian, 1953 , f2!! is extremely appealing, isn't it? |
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| May-14-09 |
| WhiteRook48: 27 Qxe2? |
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sac: 25...Rxd2