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|Feb-22-09|| ||Woody Wood Pusher: I've never seen Anand play like this before. I kept checking it was him.|
1.d4 has really opened up a new dimension for him it seems.
Topa or Gata, it doesn't matter, Anand has no equal right now.
|Feb-22-09|| ||hedgeh0g: Even if one doesn't take into consideration that Anand has only just started playing d4 in matches, his record with it is outstanding regardless. If not for his unfortunate mistake against Aronian the other day, he would be at +3 already!!! Complete domination by the man who is without a doubt the strongest player in the world at the moment.|
24. b5! was a strong move that was either missed or underestimated by Wang Yue. If he had seen the follow-up, I doubt he would have played 23...Ke7, although his position does look quite uncomfortable already.
|Feb-22-09|| ||you vs yourself: <24. b5! was a strong move that was either missed or underestimated by Wang Yue.> Not just Yue, Anand missed it twice on moves 22 and 23!|
|Feb-22-09|| ||kulangot: <Woody Wood Pusher:Topa or Gata,it doesn't matter,Anand has no equal now>So how come Anand lost twice to Kamsky since the latter's comeback?|
|Feb-22-09|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: No fair! Why are my isolated doubled e-pawns always weak, but never Anand's?!|
|Feb-22-09|| ||Ladolcevita: So strong...its rare to see WangYue's ending game defence totally forfeited|
|Feb-22-09|| ||Ladolcevita: <kamalakanta>:Isnt Pearl Harbour in America??Whats up with Jewish??|
And Japanese in Sencond World War,also invades brutally China while thus nowadays still many Chinese abhor Japnese,so the Joke is just pointless.
And I dont think Jewish and Chinese dont like each other.For instance,Shanghai saved many Jewish people in World War II.Generally Chinese and Jewish have not many historical problems,which is far better than some other countries.
|Feb-22-09|| ||Jim Bartle: ladolcevita: I suspect cultural barriers got in the way of your understanding the joke.|
The point of the joke is EXACTLY what you point out. The pilot tries to say Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese are all the same.
And the Chinese co-pilot demonstrates how ridiculous this is by turning the tables and saying all "bergs" are the same, so "iceberg" or "Goldberg" sank the Titanic, "they're all the same."
People with any sense of history know about the brutal Japanese invasion and occupation of China in the 1930s. I learned about it mainly from a great book called "Stilwell and the American Experience in China," by Barbara Tuchman.
|Feb-22-09|| ||Ladolcevita: Thanks for your clarification,I see now..
I hope wars never happen...because most normal people are kind and peaceful,regardless of nations and races....
|Feb-22-09|| ||Aspirador: <joke> kamalakanta's main mistake is that he told the same joke already on a different forum. :)|
|Feb-22-09|| ||arkansaw: amazing game, Anand didn't have that much of an edge from the opening, even had ugly isolated doubled center pawns, but Wang through a series of inaccuracies, found his bishop checkmated|
|Feb-23-09|| ||anandrulez: <Woody Wood Pusher: I've never seen Anand play like this before. I kept checking it was him.
1.d4 has really opened up a new dimension for him it seems.|
Topa or Gata, it doesn't matter, Anand has no equal right now.>
RIghtly said , but still I feel he is not the best at times , like you saw in Aronian game , when faced with complications against a opponent he has problems , he fumbled . Is there any official version on why Anand didnt play Rg3 Rxg3 Nxd3 instaed of Qxg3 ?
|Feb-23-09|| ||Eyal: Position after 10...Nd5:
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11.Ne3 <Nothing should bar Bg2 - that's the leitmotiv of Anand's plan.> (http://live.chessdom.com/linares-20...)
<This is one ugly move, only recently thought up by Markus Ragger [M Ragger vs I Schneider, 2009 ], but but once you see the move it makes very good sense. By encouraging Black's two developed minors to leave the board, the Bg2 becomes a powerhouse and White's knight on c4 will eye the juicy b6 and d6 squares [though Anand actually played the knight to d3]. Sure, White has a couple of ugly e-pawns, but they're on a closed file and Black's minor pieces can't easily reach them. Finally, White gets the open f-file out of it as well, which he can use for its own sake and for a rook lift to other useful locations.> (http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/fil...)
|Feb-23-09|| ||notyetagm: Annotated by IM Max Notkin in Chess Today 3031.
Video game commentary by GM Larry Christiansen on ICC: https://webcast.chessclub.com/icc/i....
|Feb-23-09|| ||notyetagm: A kinda similar opening: A Gupta vs A Braun, 2008|
|Feb-24-09|| ||builttospill: I found this game to be very instructive by Anand. I figure to be guilty of missing good moves as a result of limiting myself to aesthetically pleasing ones and this game has inspired me to try to be more open minded with move selection. Anand accepts doubled e pawns, but not without earning some dynamic advantages, including a powerful g2 bishop, an open f file, while managing to stunt black development. I really enjoyed seeing Anand build on these advantages and converting them into a winning position.|
|Feb-24-09|| ||anandrulez: I agree , this was sort of a game you normaly dont see Vishy pushing for win . He is fighting hard probably because of the Rd2 loss to Lev .|
|Feb-24-09|| ||Ulhumbrus: It occurs to me that Anand won this game in the style of Aronian|
|Feb-24-09|| ||volvak: < Black had to try to exploit opponent's doubled pawns by continuing 15...Nf6! with the idea to prevent the advance of the e-pawn after 16...Ng4 or 16...Nd5. For instance: 16.Rc1 (A move like 16.Bf3 cannot be problematic for Black: 16...Nd5 17.e4 Nf6 18.e5 Nd5 followed by 19...Bd7) 16...Ng4 17.e4 Ne3 18.Bf3 c2 Thanks to the pawn on c2 the lonely knight fights successfully against White's entire army! 19.Kf2 Nd1+! 20.Ke1 Ne3 21.Kd2 Nc4+ 22.Kxc2 (or 22.Kc3 b5 23.Rxc2 Ke7=) 22...e5 and Black equalizes.>|
|Feb-24-09|| ||Ulhumbrus: After 13 fxe3 White's minor pieces are three moves ahead of Black's in development. That is because both players loses time for development in the opening, but Black loses much more than White by, for example,the double exchange on e3. Black's c pawn counts for nothing, and it just drops after 20 Rxc3|
21 Bc6!! enables White to play e4 clearing the third rank for his Rook on c3 without obstructing his KB.
The R on c3 is going to go to f3 but only after a pair of moves. That pair of moves consists of the the pawn sacrifice 24 b5!! and the move 25 Ra7+ which will come with check because White will play b5 only after Black has developed his K to e7.
After 25 Ra7+, 25...Kf6 walks into the skewer 26 Rf3+ but on 25...Kf8 26 Rc7!! (Eyal) is the first of two pairs of moves and threatens to play one of the second moves which are 27 Ra3 and 27 Rd3!. Thus 26 Rc7 makes a double threat.
One can learn a thing or two from this game. At the price of repeating what I said before, it occurred to me that Anand won this game in the style of Aronian
|Feb-24-09|| ||notyetagm: <Ulhumbrus: It occurs to me that Anand won this game in the style of Aronian>|
Yes, LarryC called this game a "minor positional masterpiece".
Not what you expect from someone known for playing the White side of the Open Sicilian. :-)
|Feb-25-09|| ||SetNoEscapeOn: <Ulhumbrus: It occurs to me that Anand won this game in the style of Aronian.>|
To me it seemed more like Karpov, it seems so simple and crushing. But of course Aronian is strong at everything too so I'm sure he's had games like this, perhaps including some that I haven't seen.
|Mar-01-09|| ||patzer2: With 24. b5!! White takes advantage of Black's poorly coordinated and weakly protected pieces to target the Bishop on c8 and prepare a deep pinning combination, which he doesn't actually set until seven moves later with 30. Ra8! . |
Here's my computer checked breakout:
<24. b5!! axb5> Black can decline the pawn, but it still loses. For example:
If 24... Bd7, then White wins after 25. bxa6 Bxc6 26. Rxc6, when play might continue 26...Rb5 27. Rc7+ Kf6 28. a7 Ra8 29. e5+ Kg6 30. g4 Rb4 31. Kf3 Rb3+ 32. e3Rb4 33. h4 h5 34. gxh5+ Kxh5 35. Rxf7 Kh6 (35... Kxh4 36. Rh1+ Kg5 37. Rxg7+ Kf5 38. Rh5#) 36. Re7 Rb6 37. Rd1 Ra6 38. Rdd7 Rf8+ 39. Kg4 Ra4+ 40. Rd4 Ra6 41. Rb4 Kh7 42. Rbb7 Rg8 43. Kh5 Ra5 44. Rxe6 Ra8 45. Rg6 Rxe5+ 46. Rg5 Rxe3 47. Rbxg7+ Kh8 48. Kh6 Re6+ 49. R5g6 Rxg6+ 50. Kxg6 .
If 24... a5, then White wins after 25. Rxa5, when play might continue Rh5
26. h4 Rf8 27. Ra7+ Kd6 28. Be8! Rxe8 29. Rc6+ Ke5 30. Rc5+ Kf6 31. Rxh5 .
<25. Ra7+ Kf6>
If 25...Kf8, then White wins after 26. Rc7!, when play might continue 26...Kg8 (26...Ba6 27. Ra3 Rc8 28. Rxc8+ Bxc8 29. Ra8 ) 27. Ra3 Rc5 28. Ra8 g6 29. Raxc8 Rxc8 30. Rxc8+ Kg7 31. Bb7 .
<26. Rf3+ Kg6 27. Rfxf7 Rg8 28. Rfc7! Rh5>
If 28... b4, then White wins after 29. Ra8, when play might continue 29...Kf6 30. Raxc8 Rxc8 31. Rxc8 Rc5 32. Bb7 Rxc8 33. Bxc8 b3 34. Ba6 b2 35. Bd3 .
<29. h4 Kf6 30. Ra8> Now the pin is set and after the exchanges, White has just enough to capture Black's passer on the b-file.
<30...Rc5 31. Rcxc8 Rxc8 32. Rxc8 b4 33. Bd7> 1-0
Black resigns in lieu of 33...Rxc8 34. Bxc8 b3 35. Ba6 b2 36. Bd3 .
|Mar-01-09|| ||patzer2: It's hard to believe that such a natural looking try as 23...Ke7? is the losing move.|
Yet it would seem Black just might save his game or at least give himself practical drawing chances with the alternative 23...h6!
After 23... h6!, the move 24. b5 is no where near as effective for White. For example, after 23...h6 24. b5 play might continue 24...axb5 25. Ra8 Ke7 26. Ra7+ Kf6 27. Rf3+ Kg6 28. Rfxf7 Rh5 29. h4 Rc5 30. Rfc7 Kf6 31. Ra8 b4 32. Rcxc8 Rxc8 33. Rxc8 b3 34. Rf8+ Ke7 35. Re8+ Kd6 36. Ba4 b2 37. Rb8 Rc4 38. Bd1 Rc1 39. Rxb2 Rxd1 when Black has practical drawing chances despite White's extra pawn.
|Aug-09-10|| ||WiseWizard: This game is so smooth it conceals the brutal strength in World Champion Anand's moves.|
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