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Arkadij Naiditsch vs Vladimir Kramnik
"Achtung Baby" (game of the day Jan-17-2018)
Dortmund Sparkassen (2010), Dortmund GER, rd 9, Jul-24
Pirc Defense: General (B07)  ·  1-0

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Jul-25-10  yalie: <AgentRgent: <yalie: I think most observers (+engines) feel the game was lost aftr Bc1, but what about 29...Qf5+. Kc1 c3! appears unclear to my patzer eyes.> The connected passers, backed up by a rook (or rooks) will break through. >

where are the connected passers? only the a pawn is a passed one.

Jul-25-10  Ulhumbrus: After 15 Kd1 White has lost the right to castle and his King is in the centre. This may be too much for a pawn.

the Chessbase website gives the 15...Re8 as an alternative to 15...Bxd4.

Another interesting alternative is 15...exd5 16 Bxd5 c5 when the d4 pawn is pinned and without a pawn on d5 White can't reply by 16 dxc6. Then if White's Queen moves, eg by 16 Qb6, Black can offer an exchange sacrifice by 16...cxd4.

Jul-25-10  cormier: - - Fritz 12, 99999s/Move ----------


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Analysis by Fritz 12:(dpa = 25)

<1. > (0.59): 13.h4 Re8 14.h5 e6 15.Bc4 Rb8 16.dxe6 Bxe6 17.Bxa6 c5 18.hxg6 hxg6 19.Kf2 Bc8 20.Bxc8 Rxe3 21.Kxe3 Bxd4+ <2. > (0.41): 13.Qxb4 e6 14.Bc4 Qh4+ 15.Bf2 Qg5 16.dxe6 Bxe6 17.Bxe6 fxe6 18.0-0 Rxf3 19.Qc4 Kh8 20.Rae1 Raf8 21.c3 e5

(, ---------- 25.07.2010)

Jul-26-10  pferd: <yalie: panzerkampf: on move 20, what is wrong with black playing Bf2, intending to prevent loss of the piece??

nothing wrong relative to what transired in the game, but Kramnik would be a passed pawn down after Qxh4 Bh4. maybe Kramnik with his technique could have held it, but the are only playing for 2 results.>

Rather than Qxh4, could White not play 21.Qf1 and 22.g3 winning the trapped bishop?

Jul-26-10  AgentRgent: <yalie: where are the connected passers? only the a pawn is a passed one.>

After 29...Qf5+ 30. Kc1 c3 and now White must play 31. Rxe2 [Not Bxc3 which leads to a perpetual] cxd2+ 32. Rxd2 Rc4+ 33. Rc2 Rf4 34. b3 Rf1 35. Qxf1 Qxf1+ and White has the connected passers (and the win).

Jul-26-10  cormier: - - Fritz 12, 99999s/Move ----------


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Analysis by Fritz 12:(dpa = 25 done)

<1. (0.50)>: 9.a4 b4 10.Ncd5 Nfxd5 11.Nxd5 Nxd5 12.exd5 Rb8 13.Bh6 0-0 14.Bxg7 Kxg7 15.Bc4 Re8 16.0-0 Qd7 17.Rfe1 c6 <2. (0.50)>: 9.h4 h5 10.0-0-0 c6 11.Be2 b4 12.Nb1 a5 13.c4 bxc3 14.Qxc3 0-0 15.Na3 Bd7 16.Qb3 <3. (0.48)>: 9.d5 Nfd7 10.a3 0-0 11.h4 h5 12.0-0-0 Ne5 13.b3 Bd7 14.Bd4 c5 15.dxc6 <4. (0.47)>: 9.0-0-0 c6 10.h4 h5 11.Bd3 Nfd7 12.Kb1 Rb8 13.Nce2 Nc4 14.Bxc4 bxc4 15.Qc3 Qb6 16.Ka1 <5. (0.43)>: 9.a3 c6 10.h4 h5 11.Bd3 Rb8 12.e5 Nfd5 13.Ncxd5 Nxd5 14.Nxd5 cxd5 15.exd6 Qxd6 16.0-0-0 Rb7 17.Rhe1

(, ---------- 26.07.2010)

Jul-27-10  cormier: - - Fritz 12, 99999s/Move ----------


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Analysis by Fritz 12:(dpa = 25 done)

1. (0.72): 5.h3 Bg7 6.Nf3 0-0 7.Bd3 Nfd7 8.a4 Nc6 9.Be2 Nb4 10.a5 c5 11.0-0 cxd4 12.Nxd4 Nc5 13.Nd5 Nxd5 2. (0.68): 5.Nf3 Bg7 6.h3 0-0 7.Bd3 Nfd7 8.a4 Nc6 9.0-0 Nb4 10.a5 c5 11.Nd5 Nxd5 12.exd5 cxd4 13.Bxd4 Ne5 3. (0.67): 5.Qe2 c6 6.h4 b5 7.e5 dxe5 8.dxe5 Nd5 9.h5 Nxc3 10.bxc3 Bg7 11.f4 Qa5 12.Qd2 Be6 4. (0.67): 5.h4 Ng4 6.Qd2 h5 7.0-0-0 Nc6 8.Kb1 Nxe3 9.Qxe3 Bg7 10.Nf3 Bh6 11.Qd3 0-0 12.Be2 Bd7 5. (0.61): 5.Bd3 Bg7 6.Nf3 0-0 7.h3 Nfd7 8.a4 Nc6 9.0-0 Nb4 10.a5 c5 11.Qd2 cxd4 12.Bxd4 Ne5 6. (0.60): 5.Be2 Bg7 6.Nf3 0-0 7.0-0 Nbd7 8.a4 c5 9.a5 cxd4 10.Bxd4 Nc5 11.Bxc5 dxc5 12.Qc1 e5 13.Rd1 Qe7 7. (0.54): 5.a4 Bg7 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Be2 0-0 8.0-0 e5 9.d5 Nb4 10.a5 c6 11.Ra4 c5 12.Ra1 8. (0.48): 5.Bc4 b5 6.Bb3 e6 7.f3 Nc6 8.Nge2 Bg7 9.Qd2 0-0 10.0-0 Bb7 11.Nf4 e5 12.dxe5 9. (0.42): 5.Qd2 b5 6.Be2 b4 7.Nd5 Nxe4 8.Qd3 Bf5 9.Bf3 c6 10.Bxe4 cxd5 11.Bxf5 gxf5 12.Qxf5 e6 13.Qd3

(, ---------- 27.07.2010)

Jul-28-10  cormier: - - Fritz 12, 99999s/Move ----------


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Analysis by Fritz 12:(dpa =25 done)

<1. > (0.43): 4...Bg7 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 b6 7.0-0 Bb7 8.Qd3 e5 9.dxe5 dxe5 10.Rfd1 Qxd3 11.Bxd3 Nc6 12.a3 <2. > (0.65): 4...c6 5.Nf3 Bg7 6.Be2 0-0 7.h3 Na6 8.0-0 Nc7 9.Re1 Bd7 10.Qd2 Ne6 11.a4 Qb6 12.b4 <3. > (0.73): 4...Nc6 5.Nf3 Bg7 6.Be2 0-0 7.0-0 a6 8.Qd2 Re8 9.Rfe1 Bd7 10.h3 e5 11.d5 <4. > (0.76): 4...a6 5.Nf3 Bg7 6.h3 Nc6 7.Qd2 b5 8.Bd3 Bb7 9.0-0 0-0 10.a3 Re8 11.Rfe1 Qd7 <5. > (0.81): 4...Nbd7 5.Nf3 Bg7 6.h3 c6 7.Be2 Qc7 8.a4 0-0 9.0-0 e5 10.dxe5 Nxe5 11.Qd2 Nxf3+

(, ---------- 28.07.2010)

Jul-28-10  cormier: - - Fritz 12, 99999s/Move ----------


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Analysis by Fritz 12:(dpa = 25 done)

<1. (0.73)>: 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be2 0-0 6.0-0 c5 7.d5 Bg4 8.Qd3 Nbd7 9.h3 Bxf3 10.Qxf3 Qb6 11.Qg3 <2. (0.67)>: 4.Be2 Bg7 5.Nf3 0-0 6.0-0 c5 7.d5 Bg4 8.Qd3 Nbd7 9.h3 Bxf3 10.Qxf3 Qb6 11.Qg3 Ne8 <3. (0.59)>: 4.Bg5 Bg7 5.Qd2 Nbd7 6.Nf3 c5 7.0-0-0 cxd4 8.Nxd4 Nc5 9.f3 Bd7 10.Be3 h5 11.h3 a6 <4. (0.54)>: 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 Nc6 7.d5 Nb8 8.0-0 Nbd7 9.Re1 c6 10.h3 Qc7 11.Rb1 <5. (0.50)>: 4.Bb5+ c6 5.Be2 Bg7 6.Nf3 0-0 7.0-0 Nbd7 8.h3 e5 9.dxe5 Nxe5 10.Bf4 Qe7 11.Qd2 Be6 12.Ng5 <6. (0.46)>: 4.Be3 Bg7 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 Nbd7 7.0-0 c5 8.Qd2 cxd4 9.Nxd4 a6 10.h3 Nc5 11.Bf3 Bd7 12.Rfe1 <7. (0.45)>: 4.h3 Bg7 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Bd3 e5 7.dxe5 dxe5 8.Bg5 Nc6 9.Bc4 Be6 10.Bxe6 fxe6 11.0-0 Qd6 12.Qxd6 <8. (0.44)>: 4.Bd3 Bg7 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.d5 Ne5 7.Nxe5 dxe5 8.Be3 0-0 9.Qe2 a6 10.Bc5 b6 11.Be3 b5 <9. (0.42)>: 4.Bc4 Nc6 5.Nf3 Bg7 6.d5 Ne5 7.Nxe5 dxe5 8.Bb5+ Bd7 9.Bxd7+ Qxd7 10.0-0 0-0 11.Qd3 Rfd8 12.Bg5 c6 13.Rfd1

(, ---------- 28.07.2010)

Jul-29-10  cormier: - - Fritz 12, 99999s/Move ----------


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Analysis by Fritz 12:(dpa = 26 done)

1. (0.65): 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be2 0-0 6.0-0 c5 7.dxc5 dxc5 8.Be3 Qb6 9.Qd3 Na6 10.Rfd1 Be6 2. (0.38): 3.Bb5+ c6 4.Bd3 Nbd7 5.Nf3 e5 6.0-0 Be7 7.c3 Qc7 8.Re1 0-0 9.Nbd2 Nb6 10.Nf1 Re8 11.Ng3 3. (0.32): 3.Bd3 e5 4.Nf3 exd4 5.Nxd4 g6 6.0-0 Bg7 7.Nc3 Nc6 8.Nxc6 bxc6 9.Bg5 0-0 10.Qd2 Re8 11.h3

(, ---------- 29.07.2010)

Jul-30-10  cormier: 258: - - Fritz 12, 99999s/Move ----------


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Analysis by Fritz 12:(dpa = 25 done)

<<1. (0.63)>: 3...e5> 4.dxe5 dxe5 5.Qxd8+ Kxd8 6.Nf3 Bd6 7.Be3 Ke7 8.0-0-0 Be6 9.Ng5 Nbd7 10.Nxe6 <2. (0.69)>: 3...g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be2 0-0 6.0-0 c5 7.d5 Bg4 8.h3 Bxf3 9.Bxf3 Nbd7 10.Be2 Qa5 <3. (0.75)>: 3...Nbd7 4.Nf3 c6 5.e5 Nd5 6.Nxd5 cxd5 7.exd6 e6 8.Bf4 Qb6 9.Bd3 Bxd6 <4. (0.75)>: 3...c6 4.Nf3 Nbd7 5.e5 Nd5 6.Nxd5 cxd5 7.exd6 e6 8.Bf4 Qb6 9.Bd3 Bxd6 10.Bxd6 Qxd6 11.0-0 <5. (0.81)>: 3...Nc6 4.d5 Nb8 5.Nf3 g6 6.Bc4 Bg7 7.0-0 0-0 8.Qe2 Bg4 9.h3 Bxf3 10.Qxf3 <6. (0.83)>: 3...a6 4.Bf4 g6 5.Qe2 Bg7 6.0-0-0 Bg4 7.Nf3 0-0 8.h3 Bxf3 9.Qxf3 Nc6 <7. (0.85)>: 3...e6 4.Nf3 Be7 5.Bd3 0-0 6.0-0 Na6 7.a3 c5 8.e5 Nd5 9.Ne4 <8. (0.94)>: 3...h6 4.Nf3 e6 5.Bd3 Be7 6.0-0 Nc6 7.a3 0-0 8.h3 Bd7 9.Re1 d5 <9. (1.04)>: 3...a5 4.Nf3 g6 5.Bg5 Bg7 6.e5 Nfd7 7.exd6 cxd6 8.Bb5 0-0 9.0-0 Nc6 10.Re1

(, ---------- 30.07.2010)

Aug-13-10  Dr. Funkenstein: Chessbase confirms Yalie's idea above. 29. ...Qb3+? loses while 29. ...Qf5+! leads to a draw.

29. ...Qf5+ 30. Kc1 c3!! (allowing the rook access to the fourth rank) 31. Bxc3 Qf4+ 32. Kb1 Qe4+ 33. Kc1 draw as

32. Ka1?? Rd4! and now taking with the bishop or queen leaves d1 or e1 hanging respectively with a mate threat as the king's escape squares on a1 are all blocked.

32. Ka1?? Rd4! 33. Qc1 Rxe1 34. Bxe1 (Qxe1 Qxe1 35. Bxe1 Rd1#) Qg4! covers c8 with the unstoppable Rd1 threat

Source: http://www.chessbase.com/cbm/reeh20...

Jan-17-18  goodevans: <Dr. Funkenstein: Chessbase confirms Yalie's idea above. 29. ...Qb3+? loses while 29. ...Qf5+! leads to a draw. 29. ...Qf5+ 30. Kc1 c3!! (allowing the rook access to the fourth rank) 31. Bxc3...>

I'm somewhat perplexed why Chessbase and others should focus on <31.Bxc3> when <31.Rxe2> looks to me both more obvious and better. After <31...cxd2+ 32.Rxd2> white is a whole rook up, and whilst black retains the attack I can't see him overcoming that deficit.

Jan-17-18
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  offramp: <Cormier: - - Fritz 12, 99999s/Move.

Analysis by Fritz 12:(dpa = 26 done)

1. (0.65): 3.Nc3...>

That's more than 27 hours of computer analysis to see that 3. Nc3 is a reasonable move, something which has been known since Cochrane vs Mohishunder, 1850.

In 2010, Cormier's computer time might have been better used mining for bitcoins.

Jan-17-18  WorstPlayerEver: 19... Rxb2=
Jan-17-18
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  jinkinson: Also worth noting in Dr. Funkenstein's line is that 35. Bd2 is no good because of ...Rxd2! 36. Qxd2 Qg1+.
Jan-17-18  RookFile: Highly unusual play by white to say the least.
Jan-17-18  ajile: Whenever I see openings like this I always wonder why Black doesn't play 4..Ng4 harassing the Be3. Why allow White to leisurely play f3 or h3 later when it suits him better?
Jan-17-18  drpoundsign: The Pirc (usually) sucks.
Jan-17-18
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  Check It Out: Not getting this pun at all. Achtung is German for attention. Game played in Germany. U2 released an album titled Achtung Baby.

Uh...

Jan-17-18  Raul Montanari: Funny that Cormier's Fritz appearently does not consider among his suggested 4th moves for White the ultra-popular Austrian Attack, 4. f4.
Jan-17-18
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  HeMateMe: <Not getting this pun at all... >

Naiditsch is a German citizen.

Jan-17-18  cormier: 1) +0.37 (37 ply) 12...O-O 13.h4 e6 14.Bc4 Qe8 15.Kf2 exd5 16.Bxd5 c6 17.Be4 f5 18.Bd3 Qf7 19.g3 a5 20.c3 Be6 21.h5 Rfe8 22.Bf4 Rad8 23.Bh6 Bd5 24.Rae1 Bf6 25.Bg5 Rb8 26.hxg6 hxg6 27.Bxf6 Qxf6 28.Rxe8+ Rxe8 29.Rh6 Bf7 30.Kg1 Bd5 31.Kg2 Rb8 32.Rh1 bxc3 33.bxc3

60.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 8

Jan-17-18  cormier: <Raul Montanari> ... 1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 <4. f4> <<Bg7>> 5. Bd3 e5 6. dxe5 dxe5: 1) +0.17 (35 ply) 7.Nf3 exf4 8.Bxf4 <<<O-O>>> 9.h3 Nh5 10.Bh2 Be6 11.Qd2 Nc6 12.O-O Nf6 13.Nb5 Rc8 14.c3 Nd7 15.Nbd4 Nde5 16.Nxc6 Nxc6 17.Qe3 Qe7 18.Bb5 Bf5 19.e5 Rfe8 20.Rae1 a6 21.Ba4 Rcd8 22.Nd4 Bd7 23.Nxc6 Bxc6 24.Bxc6 bxc6

60.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 8

+0.33 (35 ply) <<4...Bg7>> 5.Nf3 O-O 6.Be3 Ng4 7.Bd2 Nc6 8.h3 Nf6 9.Qe2 Nh5 10.Qf2 e5 11.dxe5 dxe5 12.O-O-O exf4 13.Bxf4 Qe7 14.Bd2 Be6 15.g4 Nf6 16.a3 Rad8 17.Be2 Nd7 18.Kb1 Nde5 19.Bg5 f6 20.Be3 Rxd1+ 21.Rxd1 Rd8 22.Rxd8+ Qxd8 23.Nxe5 Nxe5 24.Bxa7 b6 25.Bb5 h5 26.gxh5 gxh5

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Analysis by Houdini 4

<<<8...0-0>>> 9.Qd2 Nbd7 10.0-0-0 Nc5 11.Kb1 Nxd3 12.cxd3 Be6 13.Bg5 Qb8 14.e5 Nd5 15.Ne4 Re8 16.Bh6 Bh8 17.Rhf1 Qd8 18.h3 Ne7 19.g4 Qd5 20.Nc3 Qa5 21.d4 Nd5 22.Ng5 + = (0.28) Depth: 25

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