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Magnus Carlsen vs Maxime Vachier-Lagrave
GRENKE Chess Classic (2018), Baden-Baden GER, rd 4, Apr-04
Zukertort Opening: Sicilian Invitation (A04)  ·  1/2-1/2


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Apr-04-18  tigreton: I thought Black would take on h4
Apr-04-18  chessdgc2: I Carlsen’s got a reputation for winning games that are thought to be drawn, but I don’t think he’ll win this one. The position and his opponent spell “draw” to me. Regardless of tempi, White doesn’t have enuf to pull the win.
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  Sally Simpson:

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Nobody has a passed pawn ATM. (are you on the live site?)

Suddenly MVL's Knight is not King restricting duty.

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  whiteshark: 1st draw of the day.
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  Domdaniel: <Sally> - < This will encourage another minor blunder and another.> This will sound like nit-picking (sic!), but I'm not sure that 'minor blunders' exist. Is it a useful term? What does it add to the gaiety of nations?

Descriptions like 'error', 'mistake' or 'inaccuracy' might be better.

'Minor blunder' is a bit like 'harmless fatality' ...

Apr-04-18  Marmot PFL: Wow, that was close, had Draw in 40 moves or over
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  Sally Simpson: Draw.

Carlsen was hiding his endgame prep.

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  Domdaniel: Draw, eh? Maybe *that* qualifies as a 'minor blunder' ...
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  whiteshark: All other games look drawish (endgames), only Caruana-Naiditsch is still in the middlegame...
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  moronovich: Anyway,some blunders are bigger than others.

But I know what you mean <Dom> ;)

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  OhioChessFan: I disagree with Dom's advice.
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  Mateo: If we witch to another game, I think it could be wise to avoid Vitiugov vs Anand, close to a draw. Caruana vs Naiditsch seems more interesting.
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  Domdaniel: <Ohio> -- <I disagree with Dom's advice.> When I pick my nits, you'll be first in line.

That's a joke, btw. Even after all these years, I reckon we still have to account for the internet's tin ear function.

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  Sally Simpson: Hi Dom,

Minor Blunder. Those moves that you cannot demonstrate is outright losing but due to it, later (sometimes much later) another not exact move is required to cover it up.

Slowly you drift into a position that reduces you to only moves and you blunder. You as the player, or those annotating Carlsen's or Karpov's games cannot quite put their finger on the losing move prior to the game losing blunder.

It's a bit like Steinit's accumulating of small advantages but on more subtle level. The knack is spotting the minor error (that is way beyond me. I call it luck!)

Apr-04-18  Ulhumbrus: As there may be ladies and young children present I suggest giving inelegant language a rest.
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  offramp: <Sally Simpson: ...I'm happy to stay up the tree eating bananas, you guys can examine the watch and pick fleas off each other.>

Blimey! I fancy you are in a bad mood. Luckily that never happens to me, Geoff. I have the equanimity of a giraffe.

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  Domdaniel: <Ulhumbrus> - <As there may be ladies and young children present I suggest giving inelegant language a rest.>

As far as I can see, CG already ban 'bad' language. I may not agree, but I accept their decision.

"Young children" perhaps need to be protected from certain concepts. But the idea of protecting 'ladies' is one that I find inherently sexist and rather insulting.

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  Sally Simpson: Hi offramp,

Just joking. If ever I'm a bad mood, which apparently is very rare. (either that or I'm always in a bad mood.) I'd never post.

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  ChessHigherCat: <Mateo: Mateo: If we witch to another game>

You mean like this?:

Apr-04-18  CountryGirl: "Carlsen was hiding his endgame prep."
That made me laugh - good one!
Apr-04-18  JPi: With Black Maxime has very well negotiated the type of pressure imposed by which the World Champion is usually so effective.
Apr-04-18  fisayo123: MVL seems to now be playing confidently against Carlsen in classical chess. Zero problems posed by the WC here
Apr-05-18  The Kings Domain: Interesting opening, nice to see the two top players deviate from the norm. Good game.
Apr-05-18  Justin796: Too many trades, no action.
May-01-18  Everett: <"Young children" perhaps need to be protected from certain concepts. But the idea of protecting 'ladies' is one that I find inherently sexist and rather insulting.>

#youToo, hmm? It seems “ladies” still need protection in all sorts of ways. Just look at how often they still claim to be victimized in today’s society.

If their claims are true, it seems they need special protection, being unable to prevent their own victimization without help.

Thank goodness we have you, though, to denounce “sexism” and bear insults.

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