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| Feb-13-14 | | alkinoos: first! |
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| Feb-13-14 | | notyetagm: Bronstein Memorial (2014) Second! |
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| Feb-13-14 | | twinlark: What a field! 64 GMs, 28 IMs and various other _Ms in a field of 139 players. Well over half the field rated over 2400 and no one under 2000. |
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Feb-14-14
 | | HeMateMe: Is this the Bunratty or the Bronsteinratty event? It all starts to blur... |
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| Feb-14-14 | | whiteshark: <David Bronstein Memorial in Minsk> The Belarus Chess Federation is holding an International Open Tournament from 11th to 19th February to mark the 90th anniversary of David Bronstein’s birth. The former World Championship challenger, who nearly dethroned Mikhail Botvinnik in 1951, was born in 1924 in Ukraine and passed away in 2006 in Minsk. The Open A will be open for the players rated above 2100 FIDE, while the Open B will accept lower rated participants. Both sections will be completed over nine rounds of Swiss system. The playing venue will be at K.Marksa str, 10, Minsk.
Top prizes in Open A (in USD – 12%tax): 10000 + cup, 6500, 4000, 2600, 1300, 650, 650 etc. There are also special prizes for women and veterans.
The playing field is impressive with 62(!) Grandmasters among 111 participants. 23 countries will be represented.
The prizes in Open B are USD 1000, 700, 500, 400, 300. http://www.chessdom.com/david-brons... |
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| Feb-15-14 | | ACMEKINGKRUSHER: Howdy,
In game # 48 between DUBOV & KOVALEV... 8 moves GAME OVER??? How did that happen with NO FIREWORKS? A BRIBE perhaps? Heart ATTACK? No Mate in 1 or 2 around. A bunch of us have looked this one over and are STUMPED, barring CHEATING of some kind, WHAT's UP ???? AK |
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| Feb-17-14 | | Boomie: <Chessgames.com>
Here is the crosstable for the leaders after round 6. Notice Dubov won his round 2 game. You have that scored as a loss for some reason. Your source for this tournament is bogus. Try http://chess-results.com/tnr123404.... 1 GM Dubov Daniil RUS 111b1 84w1 38b½ 31w1 16b1 9w1 2b 5.5 2529 5 0.0 21.0 2930 2 GM Jobava Baadur GEO 62w1 54b½ 14w1 7b½ 27w1 23b1 1w 5.0 2549 4 0.0 23.5 2822 3 GM Zhigalko Sergei BLR 132w1 41b1 26w½ 52b1 5w½ 4b½ 12w 4.5 2553 3 0.0 21.5 2746 4 GM Durarbayli Vasif AZE 63b1 66w1 20b1 16w½ 6b½ 3w½ 11b 4.5 2547 3 0.0 23.0 2740 5 GM Tiviakov Sergei NED 133b1 39w½ 74b1 55w1 3b½ 8b½ 7w 4.5 2547 3 0.0 21.5 2740 6 GM Shimanov Aleksandr RUS 49w1 44b½ 50w1 26b1 4w½ 7b½ 10w 4.5 2532 3 0.0 23.5 2725 7 GM Rakhmanov Aleksandr RUS 107b1 80w1 55b½ 2w½ 65b1 6w½ 5b 4.5 2523 3 0.0 21.5 2716 8 GM Grachev Boris RUS 13b½ 99w1 15b½ 42w1 38b1 5w½ 9b 4.5 2473 3 0.0 22.0 2666 9 GM Khalifman Alexander RUS 95w1 37b½ 59w1 35b1 17w1 1b0 8w 4.5 2441 4 0.0 22.5 2634 10 GM Rasulov Vugar AZE 112w½ 98b1 17w0 95b1 46w1 45b1 6b 4.5 2428 4 0.0 18.0 2621 11 GM Oleksienko Mikhailo UKR 128w1 36b½ 37w½ 76b½ 73w1 34b1 4w 4.5 2421 3 0.0 18.0 2614 12 GM Zhigalko Andrey BLR 110w0 116b1 96w1 53b1 34w½ 41b1 3b 4.5 2382 4 0.0 17.0 2575 |
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| Feb-17-14 | | zluria: Jobava's games are really an inspiration. He's like a modern-day Tal. I particularly loved his round 5 game,
Jobava vs B Savchenko, 2014 ,
where he sacrifices an exchange on move 7 (!). The computers think at first that he has no compensation, but slowly the evaluation changes, without any great mistakes on Savchenko's part. |
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Feb-17-14
 | | kingscrusher: Does anything think Bronstein was actually stronger than Botvinnik overall ?! |
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Feb-17-14
 | | perfidious: <whiteshark....Top prizes in Open A (in USD – 12%tax): 10000 + cup, 6500, 4000, 2600, 1300, 650, 650 etc.> For all the kvetching regarding last-round quickies such as Eljanov vs W So, 2013, a table such as the above explains a great deal. If two GMs have, eg, 6.5 entering the last round, with a mass of others on 6, a quick draw is the only probable outcome. The leaders will most likely have one or more pursuers catch them, but there is no reason for one 2650 player to go all out for a win with Black against another and risk falling into the pack sharing prizes of $650, for the slight chance of gaining several grand by somehow winning and getting outright first. This is a living for the GMs, not a game of chicken for millionaires who don't give a rat**** about a few thou. |
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| Feb-17-14 | | KingchecksQueen: <Who is the Greatest among the 3?> * 1vote per kibitzer From Zurich to Gibraltar and now.
Here is the result, so far:
Kasparov---- 6 votes
Fischer---------6 votes
Karpov------------1 vote |
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| Feb-17-14 | | mrbasso: How can you dare to compare Jobava with the great Tal? Tal surely would never have played such a bad game:
A Rakhmanov vs Jobava, 2014
This exchange sacrifice is well known from other openings and the Computers _do_ see quite some compensation for white.
Maybe you are still using Chessmaster 2000? |
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| Feb-17-14 | | AsosLight: <Does anything think Bronstein was actually stronger than Botvinnik overall ?!> lol. This is so idiotic like saying that Obama is better leader than Putin. |
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| Feb-17-14 | | AsosLight: Make Kasparov's votes 7 |
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Feb-17-14
| | kingscrusher: <AsosLight:> Not sure why you say that. Are you not aware they had a world championship match which was basically a draw? |
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| Feb-17-14 | | AsosLight: <kingscrusher> I am not sure why you mention this. Are you not aware that both had carriers that spanned a few decades? Despite the 13 years of age difference and the fact that they faced each other when already Botvinnik was not exactly a season player he was able to maintain better record against _every single_ major player of their era and this on top of the fact that he was WC for about 15 years compare to none and that he missed at least a few more years of triumphs due to WW2. Close? maybe. Better? No way with scientific criteria. Amazing player? yes. Spectacular player? certainly. Now what is your argument apart from aesthetics? |
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| Feb-17-14 | | Gypsy: <kingscrusher: Does anything think Bronstein was actually stronger than Botvinnik overall ?! > I do think that.
I am an admirer of Botvinnik's chess and the <averall> clause leaves a lot of wiggle room for finding Botvinnik's superiority. But I do think Bronstein was the deeper thinker. |
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| Feb-17-14 | | Conrad93: Bronstein was too creative for his own good. |
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| Feb-17-14 | | Cushion: Make Kasparov 8 |
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| Feb-17-14 | | PhilFeeley: Is this a knockout tournament? I don't understand this table. |
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Feb-17-14
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| Feb-18-14 | | Boomie: <PhilFeeley: Is this a knockout tournament? I don't understand this table.> The CG source for this tournament is bogus. Use the following site for the results. http://chess-results.com/tnr123404.... |
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| Feb-18-14 | | ACMEKINGKRUSHER: Make FISCHER 7 |
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| Feb-18-14 | | Everett: <Gypsy: <kingscrusher: Does anything think Bronstein was actually stronger than Botvinnik overall ?! > I do think that.
I am an admirer of Botvinnik's chess and the <averall> clause leaves a lot of wiggle room for finding Botvinnik's superiority. But I do think Bronstein was the deeper thinker.> Bronstein was ultimately not the driven and pragmatic competitor that Botvinnik was. Both were incredible players, but they were so different in so many ways. What I find amazing about Bronstein was he could really play any kind of game, and was coming up with different ideas over the board even in his 60's. Even Kasparov was following Bronstein's games in the 1980's, because he felt there were always ideas popping up, ideas that had not occurred to anyone else before. Here is a tandem of games as an example:
Bronstein vs V Tukmakov, 1990
Kasparov vs Svidler, 1999 |
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| Feb-18-14 | | Nosnibor: <AsosLight> Although I agree with you that Botwinnik was a stronger player than Bronstein it is not quite true to say that he maintained a better record against all of the major players of his era.For instance his score against Geller was +1 =5 -4 and Petrosian +3 =20 -6 not to mention a litte known player called Bohatyrchuk who scored +3 =2 -0 against Botwinnik.In addition to these he only scored level against Tal,Gligoric and the great Capablanca., not forgetting Euwe. |
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