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Sep-19-02
 | | Sneaky: Fischer adheres to the principles of Steinitz: delaying unfounded provocation and instead accumulating small advantages in his position. By the time 20.Qd4 is played, the advantage was in the form of White's doubled pawns. He almost could capture on e4, were it not for the weakness on the back rank (20 ...Qxd4?? 21. Qd8+). Most players would provide luft with 20...h6 and probably have enough to win. However, Fischer's style is not to strangulate the opponent through small advantages forever. Now that the upper hand is obtained, he plays 20...g5! Simultaenously providing luft for the king (thereby attacking e4) and threatening to rip open the White kingside. Nice. |
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| Oct-01-02 | | drukenknight: how does Fisher respond to 21 Qd2 |
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Oct-01-02
| | Sneaky: 21. Qd2? Qxd2 22. Rxd2 Rc1+ 23. Bf1 Ba6 |
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| Oct-02-02 | | drukenknight: gee you're right, what a mess this is. |
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| Oct-02-02 | | drukenknight: Have you seen the Alekhines defense in Browne v Fisher 1970, I think it is? That one's the real interesting Alek def. w/ Fisher, that and one of the two he played vs Spassky in 72. I think it was game 19 that is the real good one. |
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| Oct-02-02 | | drukenknight: Gee that's funny I thought this game was one of the 2 Alekhines def. games Berliner played against fisher. This game isn't even in the data base when you do the search although the other two are. |
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Oct-02-02
| | Sneaky: Here are the links: Fischer vs H Berliner, 1962 and Browne vs Fischer, 1970 |
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| Oct-02-02 | | drukenknight: There's also the 1960 US open game, not sure how to post links but you can search for Fisher/Berliner b03 and its in there. THe Browne game is the best, I think there is a sacrifice on about move 23 but it's all very murky. There's also some crazy combinations involving a pawn push to f4. |
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Oct-02-02
| | Sneaky: To post a link to a chess game: first find the game, then cut the URL out of the "address bar" on your browser, now you can paste the URL into a message. Anyhow, that Browne game is amazing. Thanks. |
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| Oct-03-02 | | drukenknight: do you want to kibbitz the Browne/Fisher game? |
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Oct-03-02
| | Sneaky: OK, you go first =) |
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| Oct-03-02 | | drukenknight: Here is the link, or you can just hit "recent kibitzing." hope these url thingies work: Browne vs Fischer, 1970 hey is there a way to see the old kibitzing games, or do they just disappear from that window as they get older? |
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Oct-04-02
 | | chessgames.com: You guys seem to have figured out the "auto-linking feature" just fine. About seeing old kibitzing games: if it falls off of the list on the hompage, you can see some more games on the 'new kibitzing' page here http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... And if it has fallen off of that list too, you can always do searches and click on the "with kibitzing" box. Note that if a single game receives enough kibitzing, eventually the older comments will be archived with an "older kibitzing" link, similar to what you see at the Kibitzer's Cafe. Thanks, and enjoy. |
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| Nov-27-03 | | Starswirl: My version of Fritz gives 21. Bd3 and evaluates the subsequent positions as more or less equal. Is this a flaw of computer chess programs? What is the continuation after 21. Bd3? (btw, if after 21. Bd3, Rc1 then 22. Qd8+ at least draws) |
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| Nov-28-03 | | crafty: 21. ♗d3 ♔g7 22. g3 ♕f3 23. ♖e1 ♖c5 24. ♗c4 ♗c6  (eval -0.43; depth 15 ply; 1000M nodes) |
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| May-15-04 | | crippledpawn: Another fine game by Fischer!!! |
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| Jun-09-04 | | talchess2003: Ba6! a great move, not only because it is nice to hang a piece that is immune but the positional motive was that the light squared bishop held up white's crippled pawn structure, and by trading it off black gained a decisive advantage. |
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| May-04-05 | | Pawn Ambush: Fischers 4..Nd5 instead of 4...ed took Berliner by surprise 17.Ne5 is positional suicide. Black gets better fighting chances with 4...Nd5 than with 4...ed. |
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| May-04-05 | | RookFile: 20... g5 is an unbelievable move.
Here we are in the 21st century, and
it still seems incredibly profound.
To play such a move, I think Fischer
had a deep understanding of the King's
Indian Defense. You say this is
not a King's Indian? Well, you're
right. However, he forsaw that
f3 was going to be inevitable, and
therefore pushing that pawn to g4,
like you do in the King's Indian,
was the way to go.
I think most of us, even if we had
concieved of this idea, would have
rejected it as being too outlandish.
Fischer obviously knew what he was
doing. |
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| May-04-05 | | Snow Man: 20. ...P-N4 is very energetic. |
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| Dec-18-06 | | who: Berliner suggests 7.Rb1 as better due to the unfavorable complications arising after 11...b6. However, he doesn't offer any analysis for 7.Rb1. To be honest 7.Rb1 doesn't score so well in this database. |
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| Jan-06-08 | | Kaspy2: both Berliner and Fischer's alleged father came from Berlin. Berliner even won the east coast ch'sh clear of young Fischer. Berliner later wrote THE BOOK on chess theory titled "The System" where he claims to be the guy who formulated the chess theory as the first of mankind. Critics were sceptical though. |
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| Jan-26-08 | | Resignation Trap: Backtrack to the Fourth of July, 1963. The place: the Wenonah Hotel in Bay City, Michigan. The event: the Western Open. The author of these words: Robert James Fischer ! <<> The Western Open was a model of a tournament compared to some of the foreign ones I've been in. They should all be run with the same organizational ability and player consideration that this one was. You would be hard pressed to find fault with it.<>> <RT> If you are eager to follow the footsteps of Fischer, don't bother looking for this hotel, it was destroyed by a fire in 1977: http://www.mybaycity.com/scripts/Ar... . <<>This was my first weekend tournament in six years and I had some second thoughts about the tight schedule. Actually, though, I knew before hand that I wouldn't mind two rounds each day because I don't approach a tournament with the same attitude I approach a match. A tournament is not a test of strength -, only a match demonstrates this - but it's more like a horse race where the order of finish not always according to form.<>> <<> The players at the Open were surprisingly strong. I was expecting twenty move-crushers but it didn't happen. In fact, the opposition was keen enough that I consider 5 or 6 out of 8 of my games played there to be superior to any games played in the Piatigorsky Tournament [see: Game Collection: First Piatigorsky Cup 1963 ] with the exception of Najdorf's win over Keres [Najdorf vs Keres, 1963 ].<>> <<>I'll show you what I mean in the following two games from the Western Open [the other one is A Reinhard vs Fischer, 1963 ]. I didn't have to choose these to make my point. There were at least three others. Compare them to the games at the Piatigorsky Tournament.<>> |
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| Jan-26-08 | | Resignation Trap: <<> Hans Berliner has been called "the man on the flying-trapeze" because he leaves his pieces "up in the air." Like a good trapeze artist, his is a calculated risk. He's a stylist and a crowd-pleaser.<>> |
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| Jan-26-08 | | Resignation Trap: After 2...e6: <RJF> <<> No doubt a surprise for Hans. This game was played in the last round of the tournament and Berliner was most likely expecting a double-edged opening like the Gruenfeld or the King's Indian. At this stage we were tied for first place; a draw would do neither of us any good. Complicated play was indicated but I was reluctant to get entangled in any of Berliner's 35 move-deep analysis in either of these openings. Also, it seemed to me, in watching some of Berliner's games in the last few U.S. Championships, that he has a marked dislike for "simple" positions. Consequently, he does not play them as dynamically as he does the sharp, complex games. Of course all this had to be weighed against the possibility of the draw.<>> |
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