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Amedee Gibaud vs Frederic Lazard
"The Soul of Wit" (game of the day Mar-07-2017)
Composition (1924) (probably analysis), Paris FRA
Indian Game: Lazard Gambit (A45)  ·  0-1

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Feb-20-12  waustad: Moshe Czerniak seems to have played the d4 Nd2 opening. Poking through the opening explorer finds his name several times.
Apr-27-13  DoctorD: Although Lazard's death date is given as 1948, this:

http://www.softdecc.com/pdb/search....

was published as a chess problem in 1951, with the note that "it could happen in a real game."

Apr-27-13  DoctorD: See also:

http://www.chess.com/blog/kenytiger...

Jun-21-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: Edward Winter had looked into this matter in the usual fashion:

http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId...

Jan-07-15  Kingcastle: How is the Knight here makes the game difficult? Cant white capture with its pawn? This is a useless Move.
Jan-07-15  Bubo bubo: <Kingcastle> Of course White can play 5.fxe3, but then he will be mated in two moves: 5...Qh4+ 6.g3 Qxg3#
Jan-15-15  Kingcastle: Thanks Bubo Bubo
Mar-07-17  andrewjsacks: Thank you, CG.
Mar-07-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: There are shorter decisive games than this fake game, such as:

I Skrypin vs A Glebov, 2007

Lindemann vs Echtermeyer, 1893

E Schiller vs H Pack, 1969

Z Djordjevic vs M Kovacevic, 1984

and K D Reichwald vs G Scheuerlein, 2011.

Mar-07-17  Steve.Patzer: That was quick.
Mar-07-17  Dirkster: GOTD? Really??? I've seen more interesting games in beginning chess classes... which is probably where this was taken from! C'mon, CG - you can do MUCH better!!
Mar-07-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: I am curious, <Dirkster>, what exactly was your mindset in posting? If it was to vent a little, okay. If it was to expect cg.c to change their ways, ummmmmmmm, really? What, Daniel Freeman is going to say "You know, <Dirkster> is right, I <can> do better. No more quick losses due to opening traps that some of the people on this site may have actually played on either side, and if they haven't yet, they could in the future, no sir, we can't have that." There's 700,000 other games here that you can review at your desire. They don't have to be GOTD to gain your attention.
Mar-07-17  paavoh: The game list provided by FSR is a good start for the "Chess Theory - alternative facts" collection.
Mar-07-17  The Kings Domain: What a charmer. :-)
Mar-07-17  morfishine: This game has more pages of kbitzing than moves

Lol

*****

Mar-07-17  RandomVisitor: After 3...Ng4 what should white have played?


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Komodo-10.1-64bit:

<+0.36/28 4.e4 Nxe5 5.f4> Nec6 6.Bc4 g6 7.Ngf3 Bg7 8.0-0 0-0 9.c3 d6 10.Nb3 Nd7 11.h3 Qe7 12.Re1 Nb6 13.Bd3 Be6 14.Qe2 Rae8 15.Be3 Bd7 16.a4 a5 17.Qd1 h6 18.Nbd2

+0.27/28 4.Nb3 Nc6 5.e3 Ngxe5 6.f4 Ng6 7.Bc4 Qe7 8.Kf2 d6 9.Nf3 Be6 10.Bd3 0-0-0 11.Bd2 h5 12.Rf1 Kb8 13.Kg1 Nh4 14.Nxh4 Qxh4 15.Bc3 Qe7 16.Qf3 Bd7 17.Rae1 h4 18.h3 f5 19.Nd4

+0.23/28 4.Ngf3 Nc6 5.Nc4 Bc5 6.e3 Qe7 7.Bd2 0-0 8.a3 Ncxe5 9.Nfxe5 Nxe5 10.Nxe5 Qxe5 11.Bc3 Qe7 12.Qg4 f5 13.Bc4+ Kh8 14.Qf4 c6 15.Qe5 d5 16.Qxe7 Bxe7 17.Bd3 Kg8 18.0-0 Bd6 19.g3 b6 20.Rfd1 Bb7 21.b4 c5 22.bxc5 bxc5

Mar-09-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: I read this in a Horowitz story,where white eventually WON over a "Professional Rook Odds Player (PROP)A
Mar-10-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Some more super-brevities:

B Tavassoli vs S Schoknecht, 2007

J F Campbell vs A Ehrlich, 1990 (read the comments if you don't understand what happened)

N Tchinenoff vs R Maillard, 1925

R F Combe vs W Hasenfuss, 1933

W T Mayfield vs W R Trinks, 1959

V Agzamov vs Veremeichik, 1968

Kusin vs Warfalamejew, 1973

G Welling vs T Veugen, 1979

P Morriss vs J McDonnell, 2006

Mar-10-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: If those games were too long to hold your attention, there are 53 games in the database that finished with a decisive result after zero or one moves. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...
Mar-10-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: Great game!--It was practically a comeback from the dead!
Mar-12-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: I started Game Collection: Super-brevities. Let me know if there are other games I should add.
Dec-24-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  Messiah: Terrible.
Apr-29-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: As <kevin86> indicated, there is another story associated with this alleged game, from "Chess Traps, Pitfalls, and Swindles" by Israel Albert Horowitz and Fred Reinfeld. During the Great Depression, Horowitz was approached by someone he called Professional Rook Odds Player (PROP). This was a rabbit who normally received, and lost at, rook odds. PROP made an unusual proposition to Horowitz. They would play a non-odds game for $5, Horowitz playing White. Anytime PROP didn't like Horowitz's move, he could offer Horowitz a quarter to play a different move of PROP's suggestion, which Horowitz could accept or not as he chose. Such a deal!

Horowitz of course accepted, and played 1.e4. PROP suggested 1.d4 instead. Horowitz accepted, pocketing a quarter. After 1...Nf6, Horowitz played 2.c4. PROP suggested 2.Nd2 instead, which Horowitz accepted. Another quarter. After 2...e5, Horowitz figured PROP probably wanted him to take the pawn, and so played 3.Ngf3 instead. PROP proposed 3.dxe5; Horowitz accepted. After 3...Ng4, Horowitz defended the pawn with 4.Ngf3. PROP suggested 4.h3 instead. Horowitz figured that PROP just wanted to regain his pawn, and accepted. After 4...Ne3!, Horowitz realized he'd been tricked. He played 5.Ngf3!, and went on to win a long game.

May-16-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: I think everyone can accept this game never happened (or if it did then it was a skittles game, later smoothed out a bit, between players unknown though Gibaud was possibly Black.)

The Scotsman, 2nd Feb 1929 give this game saying a Mr Rush is the source. You will see it is slightly different, over the years it has been made more attractive.

White Anon - Black Gibaud (France) no other details.

1. d4 Nf6 2. b3 e5 3. dxe5 Ng4 4. h3 Bb4+ 5. Nd2 Ne3


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Edward Winter has a 1922 source that gives a very similar finish. (b3 being played)

https://en.chessbase.com/post/edwar...

Anon - F.L.

1. d4 d5 2. b3 Nf6 3. Nd2 e5 4. dxe5 Ng4 5. h3 Ne3


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I'd go with the Winter game and like a myth being retold and retold a mistake has crept in as players try to show it to each other and...here we are.

May-16-22  Everyone: <I think <Everyone> can accept this game never happened>

Some days you’re the bug; some days you’re the windshield.

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