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| Nov-27-07 | | bystander: <breathweapon, nov-26-07> <1 E4 E5 2 F4 PxP 3 Bc4 D5 is ?! against 3 Bc4, because 3 Bc4 is designed to prevent 3 ... D5> At the moment I am looking how to play the King's gambit with white and I am not sure about the third move: 3. Bc4 or 3. Nf3. In your post, you mentioned some interesting possibilities after 3. Bc4. I was wondering about ... 3 Bc4 d5
Maybe black can prepare playing d5 with 3...c6? Do you have experience with 1. e4 e5 2. f4 ef4x 3 Bc4 c6 |
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| Jan-24-08 | | FHBradley: Has anyone seen "The King's Gambit for the Creative Aggressor" by Thomas Johansson, published by Kania Verlag in 1998, with a 2nd edition in 2005? Henrik Danielsen mentions this book on his website, saying that Johansson has plenty of new ideas about 3 Bc4. |
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| Sep-17-08 | | realbrob: Hi everybody. I like to try different openings (usually I'm a 1.e4 player, but I also play 1.d4 quite often and sometimes try 1.c4, the English Opening). Recently I became interested in the King's Gambit (as White, of course) and especially in the line 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Bc4 (in my country we call it the King's Bishop Gambit, but I don't know if it's the same in English). Usually the line I play (my opponents choose to play) is 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Nc3 c6 5. d4 Bb4 6. e5 Ne4 7. Kf1 Nxc3 8. bxc3 d5 9. exd6 Bxd6 10. Qe2+ but I'm not completely satisfied by the outcome. I don't find a good way to keep the initiative go for White. Probably my fault since I started to study the King's Gambit just a month ago. If someone has any good ideas, they're welcome. |
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| Nov-08-08 | | Fanacas: The most beautiful of all openings and the only opening who is hardly affected sinds the old times it was createt. |
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| Mar-02-09 | | FiveofSwords: I never play the king's gambit but I do admire it. I find myself playing against it sometimes, and enjoy that. Unfortunately there seems to be a real lack of interesting ideas that I see from people playing the white side of this gambit. You can't play the king's gambit as white and then play typical moves and hope to get anything but a lost game, you need to play with much more tactical creativity than that and not be afraid of shedding some material for an attack. I think the main reason why this opening hasnt changed much since the old days is because it is extremely rare for the strongest modern players to take it up and contribute to its theory. I dont really know why this is the case but I can say that for myself (not that im anything close to the strongest of modern players) I simply got used to thinking this openign was bad for white very early for some reason before I understood chess very well, and then became quite comfortable and used to different 2nd move options so I just never really thought of taking up this opening. Now I feel rather differently and if someone wanted to make this an important part of their repitore I think it could serve them just fine up to the highest levels of play, so long as they supported it with strong understanding and their own original ideas. |
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| Mar-02-09 | | FiveofSwords: you guys discussing this line 1e4 e5 2 f4 ef 3 Bc4...I wonder if you have any idea on how to avoid transposition to a typical fischer defense setup vs 3 Nf3 if black simply plays 3...Nc6, which is what I do. the game generally continues like 4 Nf3 g5 and now if 5 h5?! the point of Nc6 is that 5..g5 6 Ng4 Ne5 is clearly in black's favor, while if you just do normal moves like 5 d4 or 0-0 I can just proceed with 5...Bg7, d6, h6, nf6 etc, not having to be tempted to play ...g4 and get some typical fischer defense. so how do you stop this? |
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| Mar-13-09 | | Marmot PFL: <FiveofSwords> If you don't want to transpose why play 4 Nf3? 4 d4 looks better so if g5 5 h4 there is no Nf3 to attack with g4 and 5...Bg7 6 hg Qxg5 7 Nge2 and Bxf4 with advantage for white. 3...Nc6 is not accomplishing much here. |
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| Mar-14-09 | | FiveofSwords: right, i agree 4 d4 seems better and i guess id just play Qh4+ and transpose to the normal stuff. Its funny that I never see d4 tho. Nc6 does accomplish stuff anyway tho, because if white plays this way it seems to me that after I get the Qh5 Bg4 setup the knight is making real theats at d4 and e5. |
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| Jan-09-10 | | muwatalli: Have there been any books written for the bishops gambit variation of the KG? If there are any, would it be worth buying? |
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| Feb-26-11 | | Tigranny: I've always been successful with the King's Gambit. It's one of my favorite openings. |
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Dec-07-11
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King's Gambit Accepted
1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4
click for larger view |
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Dec-07-11
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Dec-07-11
| | Penguincw: < SteinitzLives: Fischer played the 3.Kf2 line once. Anybody seen that game? > Nope. Not in the database. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... |
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| Dec-07-11 | | TheFocus: <SteinitzLives> <Fischer played the 3.Kf2 line once. Anybody seen that game?> That game is not in <CG>, nor in Donaldson's book <A Legend on the Road> nor in my personal database, which is bigger than <CG>'s. Where and when did he play 3. Kf2? Do you have the game-score? And isn't 3. Kf2 known as the Tumbleweed Opening? |
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| Dec-07-11 | | beenthere240: They used to have gambit tournaments where players had to open with one of a predetermined list of gambits. |
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| Dec-07-11 | | Shams: <3.Kf2> The Tumbleweed, sometimes called the "King's Own" gambit or possibly the Drunken King's gambit. Can be quite dangerous for the unprepared Black player! A slutty blitz fave of mine. |
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Feb-16-12
| | Penguincw: What happened to the King's Gambit now? Before, it was popular and you can see it in a lot of games, but now, it's more of a surprise weapon. |
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| Apr-02-12 | | radu stancu: "Busting the King's Gambit, this time for sure":
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...
Although since there seems to be at least one way to draw I wouldn't call it "busted". I hope someone will try to replicate the results using different engines. |
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| Apr-02-12 | | SimonWebbsTiger: note the date of the interview!? |
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| Apr-02-12 | | cro777: Vasik Rajlich (Rybka/IBM cluster): "The King's Gambit has been solved - it is a draw. 3.Be2! is the only move that leads to a draw." (1st of April, 2012) |
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| Apr-02-12 | | Chess for life: If this is an April FOol's joke, I don't think it's a good one. There's too much ambiguity as to whether it's true or not. And the implications are rather historical if the article is real; so, I hope it's not an April Fool's. And add to that that this was published on April 2, not 1st, so technically April 2 jokes are not allowed. |
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| Apr-02-12 | | Chess for life: Not busted, but SOLVED. However, the article does say that their results are not rigorously proven, only within a margin of error that is very small. For example, when the position was a +5, they stopped looking and assumed it was a win. This is not a result that can be easily replicated. It took four months to arrive to it, and with enormous resources that cannot easily be replicated. |
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| Apr-02-12 | | AVRO38: <The King's Gambit has been solved> That's a load of crap!
The claim is ridiculous on it's face. Both 3.Bc4 and 3.Nf3 are clear draws. |
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| Apr-02-12 | | JoergWalter: every year at april 1 chessbase tries to be funny. a 3000 core engine and not a single line running 7-10 moves deep?
come on, I was born at night but not yesterday night. |
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| Apr-02-12 | | Shams: A highly annoying project, the one noted in the chessbase article. |
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