I'm sorry for hurting your feelings about not being so considerate of Herr Klaus and feeling better than him. If you love him so much, why don't you ask his opinion on the matter?

Olavi. Who made such a statement, you know nothing of my opinion on such cases.

You're asking what I think of Nazi collaborators? Not too highly, if you can believe such a stance. Might I inform you that one of the founders of the SS was a Jew? I don't doubt they didn't like the Nazis/Nazism. (The select Jewish soldiers you are referencing I mean.) But they collaborated and provided real military aid, starving the people of Leningrad. Might I inform you how Viktor Korchnoi's Dad died?

I am knowledgeable that the Finnish have used the Swastika for a long time, certainly longer than the Nazis. But what point would you be making? That the Swastika isn't now ruined by Nazis? It is, deal with it.

For Europeans it's a tainted symbol.

I have some personal accounts handed down from Spanish sources with color commentary on Madrid, but it wasn't "graphic" enough to interest <Missy>.

It's not just never considering collaboration. It's never actually collaborating, or providing any source of benefit to those scum. Which he did, full stop.

The point is the Nuremberg Trials.

"Diffusion of responsibility".

Most nazis got very light sentences. Especially when they were members of a royalty.

What was his responsibility? To end up like canon fodder.

I do have to ask, what's the similar/familiar event that you are referencing specifically?

So we should only condemn people that survived the war? or make it to old age (like many did) What does his death have to do with any of this?

To add, the Nazis indeed never went away. And literally yes, they changed their uniforms - to western uniforms like the US or amazingly West German uniforms. However (especially nowadays), they don't even need to change their uniforms.

Well, the nazis were a worker's party.

I remember the Volkswagen Beetle. A project that was created so that each German worker could afford a car.

However, none of the workers ever saw a single car, which is the basis of socialism: plenty of promises, but do rather nothing to accomplish them. On top of that it's a complete corruption of handling tax payers' money by the government. Whether they are so called "right wing" or "left wing". It's all the same: a cattle market.

No one ever asks for the body. It has nothing to do with a free market; it's literally a market of speculation. Little wonder. It's not their money.

Capitalism? If capitalism is directed from one (controlled) source, then it's simply called socialism.

I would like more clarification of what you mean by a 'Worker's Party'. I fear the worst.

Correct, the Volkswagen Beetle was created, along with Volkswagen itself, for that purpose. Of which 22 million were made and sold. Sounds like a few workers got to see them.

What is the basis of Socialism?

It's always satisfying when people remark that Socialist governments were corrupt yet get replaced by infinitely more corrupt institutions i.e. look at all of eastern Europe. But I guess the West can make themselves feel better in this regard by instead of calling it bribery just calling it lobbying. You can't be guilty of bribery when you codify it.

Might I ask how Centrism seeks or has historically ever sought to avoid the inadequacies of capitalism? I will answer for you, it hasn't, if you aren't against capitalism then - you are just a capitalist but somehow don't know it?

Just some food for thought for you. If you ever are scared of the concept of a planned economy. Might I ask you what corporations do? Buying competition, setting prices, buying politicians, etc. The number one organizations that despise the 'free market' are the corporations on top.

I have yet to read anywhere (that knows what it's talking about, that is.) that the definition of Socialism is when one controlled source. Especially since the result of Socialism is collective ownership so if anything it's spread far more but whatever.

Really, you should inform yourself better about the Volkswagen Beetle history.

Plan economy? You mean: weaponry.

Simply because that is their nr1 business policy when it comes to tax payer's money haha.

There's no way to deny my statement. People vote because they fear something. But maybe NATO just exists because it exists. At random. Who knows.

The mean reason of your voter's existence is your fear and how to manage that fear. If there is nothing to fear, the government would soon run out of business= lose total control over managing your fears.

So yeah, it's all business as usual :)

Hitler set up the state-owned Volkswagen company before the war in Nazi Germany under the umbrella of the DAF, the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (German Labour Front). The DAF ran the Kraft durch Freude (KdF – “Strength Through Joy”) program, designed to bridge the divide between classes and promote National Socialism to the masses, and so the car was named after this – the KdF-Wagen (literally – the “KdF Car”).

Source: the collector
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A savings scheme was set up by the DAF, which had invested heavily to produce the car, whereby people gradually put in enough money to have a car delivered, and then finish paying it off.

Many, many German families invested in the scheme. Nobody, not one family, ever received a Volkswagen. Some investors did receive some money back in the 60's (from memory), but most simply lost their investment.

Source: Quora (edit: I picked this one, because it briefly states what other sources also state, it's "common knowledge")

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Two excerpts of the "production":

Volkswagen had only just started small scale production, building about 210 Beetles, when civilian production was halted at the start of the war.

- A handful of KdF-Wagen were produced, primarily for the Nazi elite, from 1941 to 1944, as the Typ 60.