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| Dec-26-07 | | YouRang: <WannaBe: <YouRang> Believe it's because the result field in the PGN is "*".> Ah! I gather that you've been down this road before? :-) |
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Dec-26-07
 | | WannaBe: <YouRang> Oui, Oui! |
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Dec-27-07
 | | Viewer Deluxe: <YouRang>, <WannaBe>,
Both of you are right!
My guess is that the CG database has few more games like that. No doubt those need to be fixed to comply with the PGN standard. Somebody might feel that for a single game this shouldn't be a big problem but even then we have a simple question to answer.
<Which is the true Result of the game?>
I don't think we want to apply any amount of guessing when it comes to the game result. |
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Dec-27-07
| | WannaBe: I will see if I can compile a list of the 'bad' PGNs, and e-mail them to CG... |
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Dec-28-07
 | | cu8sfan: <Viewer Deluxe> I just noticed that I have problems using my scroll wheel when viewing a site with the Viewer Deluxe on. The problem is that as long as the chess board is on the screen I can not scroll up or down using the scroll wheel. When I use the sidebar and the board is not in view anymore it works fine even with the wheel. I am using Windows XP and Internet Explorer 6. I don't have the problem at home, using OS X Leopard with Safari. |
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Dec-28-07
| | Viewer Deluxe: Thanks for your feedback <cu8sfan>,
Your summary is very helpful and informative. As I said above the next CVD release will include a good workaround to this problem.
So far we know for sure that mouse-wheel always worked fine on Mac OS-X and Linux. On Windows it works as expected when MS-JVM is used. The issue with Sun’s JVM is caused mostly by the subtle differences in the way OS (Windows) handles mouse-wheel events. In addition Sun’s JVM for Windows tries to implement a mixture of the two mouse-wheel concepts in a very inconsistent way. For example, list boxes (of any applet) can be scrolled with the mouse-wheel without having the focus (hovering the controls is enough). In other words, we have a platform “look and feel” of Linux and OS-X when using Sun’s JVM on Windows. Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do about that. |
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Dec-30-07
 | | DrNyet: (Re the Opera problem)
> Have you tested your PC memory recently?
No, but I looked into doing so. Sounds like I should download memtest86 or other testing software? > Can you try Opera on another machine?
Finally did that and the problem is present. (I guess that makes the memory issue less likely.) I wonder how hard it might be to set up and try the MS Java? I haven't looked into how to do that but you obviously test various JVMs. Any tips? |
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Dec-30-07
| | DrNyet: FYI the reason I'm slow to respond is I've been using Firefox for Chessgames until I could get back to the problem. I do appreciate your help. |
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Dec-31-07
| | DrNyet: (Re Opera problem)
A reasonable workaround is to open another Chessgames page through the Bookmarks, and when finished vewing a game, to close the tab (remembering not to click a link within the tab window but outside the applet). Another workaround (a little more laborious) is to Right Click | Copy Position (EPD) | Right Click (in the EPD window) | Select All | Copy (the EPD text), and then I can successfully click a link outside the applet but within the window. Is there an easier way to take the focus away from the applet and place it back in the window (other than clicking on a link outside the applet, which is where the problem occurs)? |
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Dec-31-07
| | Viewer Deluxe: <DrNyet>, I’m glad you found those workarounds. It is still not clear how CVD will cause your browser to freeze. Problems within JVM or the CVD should not affect the whole page. If it has something to do with the focus you could try scrolling the viewer out of the screen using the scroll bar. Then you should be able to use the browser us usual. Regaining focus in CVD is related to mouse-wheel issue and a very good workaround is on its way (see above). <MS-Java> used to come pre-installed with Windows including Win2000 and it is very much out of date (Java 1.1). You can only use it with IE (I heard Firebird could use it but I never tried it.). MS-Java installation is hard to find anymore and if you don’t have it already you shouldn’t bother. The only good news about it is that it loads/runs much faster than Sun’s and uses twice as less memory. It does make sense on older machines with limited resources and luckily those are likely to have it (Win98, Win2000). If you suspect your JRE it might be easier to try a different version from Sun (eg 1.5.0). |
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Dec-31-07
| | DrNyet: <Viewer Deluxe> "If it has something to do with the focus you could try scrolling the viewer out of the screen using the scroll bar. Then you should be able to use the browser us usual." That did work (although scrolling back up and clicking links within the window gives the error). Anyway, at least I have a workaround. I do like to use the highly customizable Opera. Thanks again. |
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Jan-03-08
| | Viewer Deluxe: I quite agree, <DrNyet>, Opera is a great browser indeed. I just received one more user feedback that with Opera/9.25 mouse-wheel works fine. You seem to be the only one who has the issue (using Opera). Are you using any special browser extensions?
It is quite possible that CVD is only contributing to an already existing problem to make it worse and end up freezing your browser. Anyway, even though mouse-wheel scrolling problem is clearly causing some inconvenience, nobody else reported it to make their browser or CVD freeze. |
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Feb-04-08
 | | juan31: Viewer Deluxe ; Gracias por su respuesta lo voy a intentar,
Gracias de nuevo |
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Feb-04-08
| | Viewer Deluxe: You are welcome <juan31>. I want to thank <jrlepage> for improving the grammar of an error message. It does take effort to find such things. <Everyone>, please, post your CVD related problems/comments on my user forum. This way I’ll make sure not to miss any of them. Keeping the posts together in one place will help other users. |
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Mar-05-08
| | Viewer Deluxe: I was already asked few times about copy/paste functionality of CVD and
the question keeps popping up so I decided to include a section in the documentation (home page)
to clarify the situation (see "Copy/Paste support" below):
http://www.geocities.com/pilafovi/C... Shortly, I'd love to make it work in Firefox but it seems impossible. |
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| Mar-10-08 | | Benzol: <Viewer Deluxe> Thanks for your efforts with regards to the new viewer.
It will be very welcome I'm sure.
:) |
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| Mar-10-08 | | hms123: <Viewer Deluxe> I have been using CVD since December and have never had a problem. I think it is terrific. thanks. |
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Mar-10-08
| | Viewer Deluxe: You are welcome <Benzol>, <hms123>. <Benzol>,
Here is a few words about illegal moves. One of my goals with CVD was a meaningful error handling. Showing the illegal moves (in red) is much better than just complaining that “something’s wrong”. It’s even better when other (valid) moves can be played up to that point which actually helps us figure out what’s wrong. Of course, the illegal move itself cannot be played and the following moves most likely will be affected but there isn’t much we can do about that. |
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| Mar-12-08 | | Benzol: <Viewer Deluxe> Thanks for the explanation. :) |
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Mar-13-08
| | WannaBe: The new 'scroll' fix is wonderful!! Kudos to your hard work! |
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Mar-13-08
| | Viewer Deluxe: Thanks for noticing, <WannaBe> I was wondering about users' experience and just about to ask for some feedback. Also, I wouldn’t mind hearing from those who are using a special platform (combination of OS/browser/JRE). The mouse-wheel problem was only seen on Windows/Sun’s JRE and I expect it to be gone for good now. |
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Mar-20-08
 | | chessgames.com: Below is a repost of an announcement from the Kibitzer's Cafe. We are confident that this transition will go smoothly and be well received. Many thanks to Nikolay for his excellent work in updating the old MyChess software to be more robust and fully featured. ♔ NOTICE ♔
We have changed our default java viewer, from MyChess to the improved Chess Viewer Deluxe. Every account which was previously using MyChess has been automatically switched over to the new software. If for some reason you would prefer to continue using MyChess, you can visit your Chessgames Preferences Page and choose MyChess in the section titled "Choose Java Chess Viewer." (Alternately, you can use the form which appears under the diagram on any game page.) If you have feedback or experience any problems with the new software, visit the Viewer Deluxe chessforum where you can directly contact the software author Nikolay Pilafov. |
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| Mar-20-08 | | bgkuzzy: The new viewer is great! |
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| Mar-20-08 | | malthrope: [cross posted from the 'Kibitzer's Café']
<chessgames.com: ♔ NOTICE ♔ We have changed our default java viewer, from MyChess to the improved Chess Viewer Deluxe.> Thanks CG.com it works like a charm! :^) Loads almost instantly whereas the old Java program took many minutes to fully load for me... :( Oh well, that's what I get for being a dinosaur still on 'dial-up' I guess! ~lol~ ;) Much thanks to the software author Nikolay Pilafov. :) - Mal Many thanks <Viewer Deluxe> ! :)) |
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| Mar-21-08 | | druid: Is there somewhere where I can report a bug? The new viewer doesn't work for me at all (Firefox, Linux), but when I open the Java console, there is a nice stack trace that might be of some interest to the developer. However, the stack trace seems too long to post here. |
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