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May-01-22
 | | Stonehenge: Please look into this:
stevemcd87 chessforum (kibitz #1019) and stevemcd87 chessforum (kibitz #1020). I cannot work like that. |
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May-01-22
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
I have to agree with <z's> post here eh? Seems like the most logical way to deal with "duplicates": stevemcd87 chessforum (kibitz #1116) |
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May-03-22
 | | stevemcd87: <Sometimes after updating something on CG, the page seems to be waiting forwww.google.com (at least that's what I see on the bottom left side of the screen) and then I get the message <Unable to connect to the reCAPTCHA service. Please check your internet connection and reload the page to receive a reCAPTCHA challenge.>> I removed a recaptcha script on the editor page. Let me know if that helps the issue. Does it happen throughout the site? |
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May-03-22
 | | Stonehenge: <Does it happen throughout the site?> I believe it only happens when I'm editing stuff, this need not be on the editor page. I don't think it happens when I'm normally using the site. |
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May-16-22
 | | MissScarlett: Will you remove the game Harrwitz vs Staunton, 1846. |
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May-17-22
 | | Stonehenge: You can do that yourself in the editor page.
<Get GID> and then delete the game. |
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May-17-22
 | | MissScarlett: I deleted it even though it claims to have already have been deleted. Entered the game again, with the offending (to my knowlege) mistake corrected but it still won't go through. Is it too much to expect Steve to reply in his own forum? |
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May-17-22
 | | stevemcd87: Harrwitz vs Staunton, 1846
For odds games, we need to update the eco for the game to display.
After Uploading the game, you should be able to go to the page and see an "ECO" input and "Update ECO" button. The ECO was "?", I updated it to "000". You can then reload page after the update. |
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May-17-22
 | | MissScarlett: If I uploaded the game with <[ECO "000"]>, would it go through? I'll try! |
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May-17-22
 | | MissScarlett: Well, it works, but the game doesn't show up as a link in the Processed Submissions list. You have to find the GID from the Raw Data log. |
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May-18-22
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<MissScarlett>
You wrote:
<Well, it works, but the game doesn't show up as a link in the Processed Submissions list. You have to find the GID from the Raw Data log.> I confirm that is the same result I get. I ran across this issue some time ago, and began to submit <[ECO "000"]> in pgns for odds games. I only ever look at the Raw Data log, so the game not showing up in the Processed Submissions list never bothered me. That said, I can see that it should show up in the list, and possibly <Stephen> can arrange that for us? I can confirm at least that all of the odds games I uploaded so far with <[ECO "000"]> were duly processed, and did appear on the each of the player pages in question. |
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May-18-22
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<MissScarlett>
You wrote:
<Well, it works, but the game doesn't show up as a link in the Processed Submissions list. You have to find the GID from the Raw Data log.> I confirm that is the same result I get. I ran across this issue some time ago, and began to submit <[ECO "000"]> in pgns for odds games. I only ever look at the Raw Data log, so the game not showing up as a link in the Processed Submissions list never bothered me. That said, I can see that it should show up in the list, and possibly <Stephen> can arrange that for us? I always find processed game links by doing a manual search for them. I'm not sure why I never look for the link on the editor page. I think it was not working properly for me at some time in the past. At least all of the odds games I uploaded so far with <[ECO "000"]> were duly processed, and have appeared on the each of the player pages in question. That's a lot better than having to ask <Stephen> to manually fix these because the games didn't publish at all. |
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May-18-22
 | | MissScarlett: <I confirm that is the same result I get. I ran across this issue some time ago, and began to submit <[ECO "000"]> in pgns for odds games.> I don't think it's an issue for odds games where the pawn array isn't disturbed - never had a problem uploading P+1, knight/rook games. The ECO allocator can handle these, but P+2 confuses it. But adding the <[ECO "000"]> tag is still useful, because it saves one having to manually change it. |
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May-18-22
 | | Stonehenge: <Due to 'null moves', please update the 'PGN Viewer:'(below) to 'pgn4web', to view this game> AC--Q-00010 CFC ch rd1 (2003). AC--Q-00010 (2003). |
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May-18-22
 | | MissScarlett: What you wittering on about? Speak no riddles. |
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May-18-22
 | | MissScarlett: I need to take back what I said - P+2 games can be uploaded without trouble. The problem comes if the game is edited to include a null move in the opening. If the ECO isn't 000 when this occurs, then the system short-circuits. |
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May-19-22
 | | Stonehenge: <What you wittering on about? Speak no riddles.> I think Steve fixed those games without telling anyone :) |
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May-19-22 | | Z free or die: The real riddle is wth does <AC--Q-00010>" mean?! |
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May-19-22
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<z> I was thinking exactly the same thing, but I was afraid to say anything. Why, you might ask. Excellent question.
I was, and remain, scared that <AC--Q-00010> is an association of chess cyborgs dedicated to the erasure of any remaining human element to chess. |
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May-20-22 | | Z free or die: <RE: null moves> How hard would it be to add null moves to <chess.js>? Not very, I suspect - so why doesn't it have them already? . |
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May-21-22
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<Stephen>
I uploaded this game some months ago, and the alert <Stonehenge> has discovered it won't play on any of our viewers. It's a "pawn and move" affair. Did we end up finding a protocol for uploading these successfully so they will play? Here is the game:
F Amelung vs G Schneehagen, 1856 [Event "Move Odds game"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1856.12.13"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Friedrich Amelung"]
[Black "G Schneehagen"]
[ECO "000"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[Source "Baltische Schachblatter No.2 p.101"]
[PlyCount "40"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "  click for larger view"] 1... e5 2. e4 Bc5 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. d3 d5 5. exd5 Nxd5 6. Nf3 f6
7. O-O g5 8. Nxe5 Be6 9. Qh5+ Ke7 10. Re1 c6 11. Nc3 Nd7
12. Bxd5 Nxe5 13. Rxe5 cxd5 14. Qe2 Qd6 15. Bxg5 fxg5 16. Re1
Kd7 17. Rxe6 Qf4 18. Re7+ Bxe7 19.Qe7+ Kc8 20.Nxd5 Qb8 (White
announced mate in 6) 1-0
==============
I inserted () parentheses on the annotation, because these kibbutz boxes will not recognize the specialized "annotation parentheses." |
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May-21-22 | | Z free or die: We went over this on <JFQ>/s forum, but gor others, I'll repeat: <Null moves>, same as other moves, are recorded as moves in the PGN, with the distinction that a null move uses the notation <--> instead of something like <e4>, etc. So, the raw PGN should begin like this:
< 1. -- e5 2. e4 Bc5 > ... etc ... In SCID, one can record a null move on the board by playing KxK which would otherwise be an illegal move (except in certain forms of blitz, etc). (Hmm, are there any gui's out there that allow king capture, in blitz or otherwise?) |
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May-22-22
 | | stevemcd87: <Jess>
The FEN was wrong also.
It had <ppppp1pp> for the 7th rank, I updated it to <pppppppp>.
You can tell by <6... f6>, the pawn is needed.
The game now works on pgn4web:
F Amelung vs G Schneehagen, 1856 |
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May-22-22 | | Z free or die: Now that we're past the mechanics of <null moves>, I realize I don't understand what is going on here.... To wit, pawn and move games, usually have the stronger player being Black, with Black's f-pawn removed. So a typical PGN would go along these lines: <
[White "fish"]
[Black "champ"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/ppppp1pp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq 0 1"] 1.e4 -- 2.d4 {etc.}
>
This game:
F Amelung vs G Schneehagen, 1856 as it currently stands, is not an odds game, but merely a colors-reversed game. . |
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May-25-22
 | | Stonehenge: <Steve>
Can you remove the photo here: Alexander McDonnell? That's not Alexander McDonnell the chess player. I tried to remove the caption but I get this message (and that's not the first time): <
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EACCES: permission denied, open '/home/chessgames/www/chessgames.com/f/19110.txt'> |
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