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Lajos Portisch vs Robert James Fischer
"Any Portisch a Storm" (game of the day Sep-06-2015)
Second Piatigorsky Cup (1966), Santa Monica, CA USA, rd 11, Aug-03
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Normal. Bronstein (Byrne) Variation (E45)  ·  0-1


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  HeMateMe: You're just unhappy because you missed a simple capture that wins, due to the pin. Better break out your fred Reinfield books.
Jul-09-14  kereru: Not sure if you're drunk, an idiot or a troll, but whatever the case further conversation is pointless. I hope chazsmiley found my sensible reply helpful.
Jul-09-14  ughaibu: Hilarious!
Jul-09-14  Sally Simpson: This is what happens when none of you use the diagram feature.

Select the position you want discuss and click on the square b8. Where is b8? The Black King is on b8.

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You can then copy and paste the fen into your post and add your golden nugget of wisdom.

Any mistake should be spotted and corrected at the 'Preview Kibitz' stage thus preventing any misunderstanding and stopping any comments like...

"HeHateMe what position are you looking at??"

...which typically leads to name calling, violent oaths and threats of putting a player on their ignore list.

So chazsmiley can you please start again.

This is the position with White to play his 29th move.

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Jul-09-14  kereru: Actually his question was perfectly clear, and does not need repeating. My answer was clear too.
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  HeMateMe: Why even participate, if people are going to be such rude, immature morons? If you have an opinion on a chess position, put it out there like an adult, not as a 14 year old boy.

These are the guys who could never get laid, so they live inside a chess board. More's the pity.

Jul-09-14  ughaibu: But what you posted was utter nonsense, continued utter nonsense, and you began the insults. If "rude, immature moron" applies to anyone in the above exchange, that person is you, not Kereru.
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  perfidious: Whatever one makes of the argument which has gone in recent days, <ughhaibu> demonstrates a consummate understanding of utter nonsense, though this is not at all surprising to those long acquainted with his tendencies.
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  offramp: The kibitzing is more memorable than the game.
Sep-06-15  The Kings Domain: Interesting game. White was too optimistic in giving up his queen as his material advantage would not be sufficient once black gobbles up his queenside pawns with the help of black's queen.
Sep-06-15  optimal play: <offramp: The kibitzing is more memorable than the game.> lol

<chazsmiley has kibitzed 2 times to chessgames Jul-08-14 Portisch vs Fischer, 1966> These were <chazsmiley>'s first and only posts!

He joined the site as a premium member, asked one simple question, then realised he had inadvertently started a sh#t-fight, (which as usual involved <HeMateMe>) and the poor bastard was so dismayed he hasn't posted since!


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  offramp: I love this one:

<HeMateMe: chaz--after 29. f3 black plays 29...R (either) takes Knight. White can't recapture because of the pin with the Bishop on d5. After 29. f3...Q-d2 white might still make a game of it with 30. N-g4>

Soon followed by this jobbernowling comeback
<kereru: You're making no sense at all.>


Sep-06-15  optimal play: I like this bit...

<HeMateMe> <Black munches once the double rook coordination is gone> huh?

And this...

<kereru: @HeHateMe what position are you looking at?? White has no knight.> LOL!

Poor ol' <chazsmiley> was probably so confused gave up chess after this!


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  morfishine: <optimal play> Poor ole <chazsmiley> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
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  thegoodanarchist: < morfishine: <optimal play> Poor ole <chazsmiley> I don't know whether to laugh or cry>


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  thegoodanarchist: <HeMateMe: chaz--after 29. f3 black plays 29...R (either) takes Knight. White can't recapture because of the pin with the Bishop on d5.

After 29. f3...Q-d2 white might still make a game of it with 30. N-g4 Jul-09-14 kereru: @HeHateMe what position are you looking at?? White has no knight. Jul-09-14 HeMateMe: You're right, optical illusion. Would you play 29...RxN or 29...Q-d2? Jul-09-14 kereru: You're making no sense at all.>

I haven't laughed this hard in a long time! Black hasn't had a rook since move 15, yet HMM keeps moving Black's imaginary rooks!

Sep-06-15  1 2 3 4: <optimal play> He was last seen on September 4th, 2015. I think he bought premium member for a reason.
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  lost in space:

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Why not 29. f3?

29. f3?? Qd2

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If not 30. Rxe3 here there is no other move than Rg1 to protect mate on g2

30. Rg1? Qf2

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This is mate in three. if - for example - 31. hxg5 Qh4#

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  NeverAgain: Are four diagrams really necessary to illustrate a three-move sequence?
Sep-06-15  Absentee: <thegoodanarchist: I haven't laughed this hard in a long time! Black hasn't had a rook since move 15, yet HMM keeps moving Black's imaginary rooks!>

I think he just accidentally inverted White and Black in the notation. I'm more puzzled by the pin. The f4 pawn is pinned because it would expose White's King to its own Bishop?

Anyway, one of my favorites Fischer games. What follows the Queen exchange is like a clockwork symphony.

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  HeMateMe: Looks like the dog and pony show. Keep nipping at my ankles...
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  offramp: HEY, <HeMateMe>, don't worry about it. We have all done it.
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  Once: <NeverAgain: Are four diagrams really necessary to illustrate a three-move sequence?>

Given the earlier nonsense kibitzing, probably.

<chazsmiley> was/is new, so it is not a bad idea to cut him a bit of slack and be friendly.

Besides I make it a six move sequence - three for white and three for black.

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  kevin86: Black wins this one! Black is about two pawns ahead...
May-03-17  Mithrain: I didn't know the positional ideas of a Queen vs 2 Rooks position so I am grateful to have found this game!
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