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Robert James Fischer vs Bent Larsen
Fischer - Larsen Candidates Match (1971)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Fischer-Sozin Attack. Leonhardt Variation (B88)  ·  1-0
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Nov-03-09
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  Garech: <Eyal: Since you don't mention any more specific games besides the one vs. Gligoric, I'll probably have to go over all of them myself if I really want to find out. Right now I don't have enough time and patience to do that, but if I do and find some more I'll post them here - you might do the same yourself if you happen to remember any.>

These last couple are sicilians, but still great wins:

A Redolfi vs Fischer, 1959

Nov-03-09
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  Garech: <Eyal: Since you don't mention any more specific games besides the one vs. Gligoric, I'll probably have to go over all of them myself if I really want to find out. Right now I don't have enough time and patience to do that, but if I do and find some more I'll post them here - you might do the same yourself if you happen to remember any.>

This time a middlegame exchage sac; the standard Rxc3 in the sicilian although I don't think that should disqualify it for the growing collection!

W Ader vs Fischer, 1959

Nov-03-09
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  Eyal: <A Redolfi vs Fischer, 1959>

I wouldn't say that's an example of the kind of sacrifice we're talking about - in this game it seems that Fischer blundered the exchange rather than "sacrificed" it (after missing a simple win on move 21 by ...Qxe3, btw) - he was dead lost until moves 39-40, and had a very lucky escape.

I actually had a quick look at all the KID and Sicilian wins by now, so here are the remaining candidate games that I found (I still haven't gone over them in detail to see how sound Fischer's play really was):

A Pomar-Salamanca vs Fischer, 1966
Minic vs Fischer, 1967
Fischer vs S Hamann, 1968
R Byrne vs Fischer, 1971

Nov-04-09
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  Garech: <Eyal: <A Redolfi vs Fischer, 1959>

I wouldn't say that's an example of the kind of sacrifice we're talking about - in this game it seems that Fischer blundered the exchange rather than "sacrificed" it (after missing a simple win on move 21 by ...Qxe3, btw) - he was dead lost until moves 39-40, and had a very lucky escape.

I actually had a quick look at all the KID and Sicilian wins by now, so here are the remaining candidate games that I found (I still haven't gone over them in detail to see how sound Fischer's play really was):

A Pomar-Salamanca vs Fischer, 1966
Minic vs Fischer, 1967
Fischer vs S Hamann, 1968
R Byrne vs Fischer, 1971>

I take your point that it wasn't the kind of sac we were talking about - but still, Fischer goes into the middlegame/endgame the exchange down and wins.

Are you sure you did that search correctly? Cos I have just found:

Fischer vs M Bertok, 1961

which should surely both qualify and be found by the sac explorer.

Nov-04-09
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  Eyal: <Garech> See my very first post on the subject:

<Speaking of Fischer's exchange sacrifices, I can't recall so many of them. I can think of the Rxh5 sacs in Fischer vs Larsen, 1958 and Fischer vs Gligoric, 1959 (though in those cases the resulting attack is so immediate and forcing that it's more part of a combination than a "genuine" long-term sacrifice); the nice 14.Rxe4 in Fischer vs Najdorf, 1962, shattering Black's center and opening lines against his king; <and Fischer vs M Bertok, 1961, where - like in this game - a powerful bishop pair + pawn majority on the Q-side is correctly judged as more valuable than an exchange.>>

That's why, in my last post, I said "the remaining" games, meaning those that haven't been mentioned so far...

Nov-04-09  ewan14: Fischer v Smyslov 1959

Fischer v Korchnoi 1967

Could these games be included ?

Nov-04-09
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  Eyal: <ewan14> If you include drawing, as well winning, sacs (like the 17th game from 1972 match, mentioned earlier by <euripides>); in the game from 1959 Fischer is Black, btw - Smyslov vs Fischer, 1959.
Nov-04-09
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  Garech: <Eyal: <Garech> See my very first post on the subject:

<Speaking of Fischer's exchange sacrifices, I can't recall so many of them. I can think of the Rxh5 sacs in Fischer vs Larsen, 1958 and Fischer vs Gligoric, 1959 (though in those cases the resulting attack is so immediate and forcing that it's more part of a combination than a "genuine" long-term sacrifice); the nice 14.Rxe4 in Fischer vs Najdorf, 1962, shattering Black's center and opening lines against his king; <and Fischer vs M Bertok, 1961, where - like in this game - a powerful bishop pair + pawn majority on the Q-side is correctly judged as more valuable than an exchange.>>

That's why, in my last post, I said "the remaining" games, meaning those that haven't been mentioned so far...>

Ok sure thing. Hey - I had an idea - seeing as we have all gone to so much effort to find these games (I'm still going thru them all myself) how about we make a collection of games under the title of "Fischer's greatest exchange sacs" or something like that? Do you have to be a premium member to make these collections? If not then I'll do it, but I think you have to be.

Nov-07-09
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  Garech: <Eyal: Since you don't mention any more specific games besides the one vs. Gligoric, I'll probably have to go over all of them myself if I really want to find out. Right now I don't have enough time and patience to do that, but if I do and find some more I'll post them here - you might do the same yourself if you happen to remember any.>

This one from a simul, but should still count for the collection:

Fischer vs T Hartwell, 1964

Nov-07-09
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  Garech: This is a great one in a sicilian, Rxc3 but with white castled kingside:

R Reyes vs Fischer, 1967

Nov-07-09
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  Eyal: <Garech: Fischer vs T Hartwell, 1964>

I noticed this game (actually already a while ago, when I was going over all of Fischer's games against the Dragon), but didn't include it for the same reason as the game vs. Redolfi - the "sacrifice" (or simply blunder) is incorrect, Fischer was in a losing position for quite a while, but got lucky when his opponent made an awful blunder (here, 41...Rb4??). To paraphrase his famous "sac, sac, mate" commment on the 1958 game vs. Larsen, that was more like - "pry open the h file, sac, sac... ooops - I'm down an exchange with no compensation, ooops - there goes another exchange, well - luckily he missed mate in 4".

But the game vs. Reyes is very nice - somehow I missed it in the "survey". Btw, like most of the other games I went over, when you look at it with an engine, as far as the engine is concerned it's not "really" a sac (or at least not a "speculative" one) in the sense that 12...Rxc3 is considered to be the best move and to give Black a clear, "objective" advantage. As for your question about the game collections - no, I don't think you have to be a premium member to make them.

Nov-09-09
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  Garech: Another one, this time most of the middlegamme down the exchange due to an early oversight, I think.

Minic vs Fischer, 1967

Nov-10-09
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  Garech: Also, it would be a travesty to forget this one, although it's an example of one of those where it leads to almost immediate vicroty:

Fischer vs Spassky, 1972

Nov-11-09
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  Garech: A very creative one that leads to a winning position some ten moves later:

Fischer vs S Hamann, 1968

Nov-11-09
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  Eyal: <I actually had a quick look at all the KID and Sicilian wins by now, so here are the remaining candidate games that I found:

A Pomar-Salamanca vs Fischer, 1966

<Minic vs Fischer, 1967>

<Fischer vs S Hamann, 1968>

R Byrne vs Fischer, 1971>

Nov-11-09
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  Eyal: In the Minic vs Fischer game, btw, the sac seems pretty sound although not decisive. In fact, I think that's the only sac of those I've seen so far that truly belongs to the "speculative" or long-term positional class - rather than being a blunder, part of a forcing combination, or leading immediately to a clear advantage.
Nov-16-09
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  Garech: This is a nice one that leads to a winning position, although I haven't analysed it with Fritz but it certainly looks like it was the strongest move:

Fischer vs H Camara, 1970

Nov-16-09  Eduardo Leon: <Garech>, in the Fischer-Camera game, the exchange sacrifice was justified by the fact that black hadn't castled. He lost a precious tempo by playing 10... Qa5 only to retreat the queen later with 14... Qc7. Instead, 10... 0-0 would have been better.
Nov-17-09
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  Garech: A blitz game, but nonetheless - still a nice one:

R Byrne vs Fischer, 1971

Jan-11-10
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  Garech: <Reshevsky vs Fischer, 1961;

An accidental one! (I think). But still, he wins!

Oct-29-10  BobCrisp: From a ringside report by a <Robert Sandberg> which appeared in the September 1971 <BCM>:

<The observer looks on with fascination as Larsen, the supreme tactician, is outplayed at every turn. As incredible as it may seem, he is simply no competition for Fischer. He sets up solid positions, with sound strategic goals, and then loses his way, his attention diverted by a tactical flurry. One senses in position after position, that Larsen has run out of ideas. Fischer's chess simply does not allow Larsen to demonstrate the beautiful chess which he has repeatedly demonstrated in recent tournaments. When insightful moves are made, they are generally Fischer's; when tactical skirmishes occur, they are to Fischer's advantage; when the endgame is reached, it is always Larsen struggling to hold on. In the fifth game, Larsen played perhaps ten moves in a dead lost position, uncomprehending. When the game was over, as Fischer was receiving an enthusiastic handshake from one of the judges and rolling applause from the audience, Larsen looked out into the crowd with a pinched, drawn expression, bewildered, confused, and then shambled off, the picture of defeat. With all regard for Fischer's remarkable play, what a sad sight it was to see this other great player so humbled.>

Oct-29-10
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  parisattack: <BobCrisp: From a ringside report by a <Robert Sandberg> which appeared in the September 1971 <BCM>:>

I watched this match live and can indeed attest that by the third game almost everyone saw 6-0 as a foregone conclusion.

Jan-13-11
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  AylerKupp: <<Garech>: Looking at the board after 24. c4 the power of piece centralisation is blindingly clear. I wonder what an engine eval of that position would be, seeing as objectively speaking he is one pawn down in material. Great game in any case.>

<<Eyal>: A good engine should recognize a big advantage for White without problems. My own Fritz 10 (which is already a bit outdated) recommends immediately 21.Rxe6 as the best move by far for White, and evaluates the resulting position at about +1 in his favor.>

To bring the discussion about engine evals somewhat up to date, Rybka (Deep Rybka 4 w32.exe dated 5-24-10) evaluates the position as [+0.94] at d=22. Likewise Houdini (Houdini_15_w32.exe dated 12-15-10) evaluates the position as [+0.42] at d=26, and Stockfish (stockfish-201-32-ja.exe dated 1-08-11) evaluates the position as [+1.41], d=35. So all 3 engines evaluate white’s position as being better and all 3 engines suggest that black’s best move is 24...a5.

And, yes, great game in any case.

Apr-10-14
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  thegoodanarchist: Fischer plays the Fischer Attack... and wins
Apr-10-14
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  thegoodanarchist: And by move 40 it is HOPELESS for BL but he keeps fighting until the bitter end.
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