Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

There is a clue unsolved right now on the Holiday Contest Clues Page!   [Official Contest Rules]
Please see this announcement for some updates.
(If you register a free account you won't see all these ads!)
Salomon Flohr vs Henri Grob
"Grobbeling on the Flohr" (game of the day Aug-30-2014)
Match (1933), Arosa SUI, rd 1, Feb-??
Queen Pawn Game: Krause Variation (D02)  ·  0-1


Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 27 times; par: 49 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 8 more Flohr/Grob games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" button below the game.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Aug-11-06  aazqua: White's play in this game is atrocious. F4?? Wasn't flohr supposed to be pretty good? How did he play b*p and then q-k4 without having a response to q-n5??? He could always have played b-n2 and settled for a draw.
Premium Chessgames Member
  Richard Taylor: Oops! Good game by Grob.
May-27-08  Alphastar: White could not find a way to defend against the <MATING FOCAL POINT> f1, so he <RESIGNED>. He thought that he would have to move the queen, however the queen also <DEFENDS> d5 so when she goes to b1 or e1, the Bd5 is <UNDEFENDED>. A simple case of being <OVERWORKED>.

Do I sound like notyetagm yet?

May-27-08  gus inn: Yes you do ! But nothing to be ashamed off .
May-23-09  Hugh the Drover: Grob grinds Flohr's initiative to a halt, proving the superiority of pepper over salt. Black moves h6 for his back-rank air, but White moves g3 for his Luft, beware. He's stung by the grip of Black's Bh3, milling coarse pepper from Tellicherry.
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: This was Flohr's only loss to Grob in eight games!
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <Alphastar> You've got to remember that a diagram is needed after every move as well; your portrayal above is bang on, though!
Jun-04-13  sfm: One to the list of people who resigned in won positions.

Tim Krabbes page, very enjoyable, does not include this game.

Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: White missed the best defense. But with the drafty King, I think it's a stretch to say White is winning.
Aug-21-14  posoo: "Grobeling on da flohr."


Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: Good pun, Posoo. Not sure if there's been a Flohr/floor pun before for GOTD.
Premium Chessgames Member
  morfishine: The 'O' in 'Grob' is long, as in 'obituary', which is where this pun ends up


Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: He did the Worm.


best at :20

Aug-30-14  Vinod S U: How could he not see a bishop on F2,,,... flohr sheer blindness in chess!!!!
Premium Chessgames Member
  NM JRousselle: What Flohr likely missed was Bg1 and not Kh1. In my experience, the most difficult moves to find are retreating moves, especially along a diagonal.

In 1963 Fischer gave a simul in New Orleans. One of his losses was game where he overlooked a simple bishop retreat.

Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: How sad! Btw, the book does mention white's escape- check again, it might be a footnote.
Aug-30-14  Francio: <Offramp:Not sure if there's been a Flohr/floor pun before for GOTD.> Sokolsky vs Flohr, 1953
Aug-30-14  posoo: LOL morfoos, NOBODY calls it da GROBE any more than people say "ALYOKIN"

I bet you call it meheeco too lililo

Aug-30-14  Tim Delaney: <OhioChessFan: White missed the best defense. But with the drafty King, I think it's a stretch to say White is winning.>

The win is difficult, but I believe it's there. If black attempts to defend the f7 pawn passively, White wins the b7 pawn. Black cannot take his queen out of play with Qf1+ without giving up the f7 pawn via be6. Eventually, with careful play, White can bring his king toward the center and mobilize the Kingside pawns. Granted, Black has drawing chances, but I believe white can prevail. But as you imply, it's not a walk in the park for White.

Aug-30-14  adamico: <Francio> <Offramp>

Also, this GOTD pun relates to the Flohr variation of the Ruy Lopez: Kasparov vs Karpov, 1986

Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Houdini 3 analyzes <26. Kh1 Qf1+ 27. Bg1 Bg4 28. Qg2 Qd3 29. h3 Bf5 30. Qf3 Qb1 31. Qe3 Bd7 32. Qe4 Qf1 33. Qg2 Qd1> (also possible is 33... Bxh3 34. Qxf1 Bxf1 35. Bxb7 Kf8 36. Be3 a5) <34. Kh2 Bxd4 35. Bxd4 Qxd4 36. Bxb7 a5 37. a3 g6> and Black will hold the draw (+0.23).
Premium Chessgames Member
  morfishine: <posoo> Nice try, keep digging
May-07-15  posoo: WAIT it actually WORKED?! POSOO MADE the pun!?

first i DID it with da chessbookie game. and now dis?

Thanks Ernesto!

May-02-16  posoo: Morfisin mad LOL. Too bad da POSOO PUN



Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: <TGA> likes the pun!

This is the first time I've seen it because when this was GOTD I had just moved to Oregon and was trying to get all of my household goods unpacked and set up in the new apartment.

Didn't have time for for a few days.

search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No posting personal information of members.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors.
Spot an error? Please submit a correction slip and help us eliminate database mistakes!
<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)

Featured in the Following Game Collections [what is this?]
P-Q4 Krause Var (D02) 0-1 Flohr Bewitched by an Illusion
from Green Tea and Toast for Fredthebear's Ghost by fredthebear
August 30: Grobbeling on the Flohr
from Game of the Day 2014 by Phony Benoni
nimzo indiangames
by tanu123
Flohr gets floored
from kevin86's favorite games by kevin86
Flohr Bewitched by an Illusion
from Chess Traps, Pitfalls & Swindles by SamAtoms1980
Now for something completely different
by Timothy Glenn Forney
Flohr resigns but could easily win! (See Kibitz at the bottom)
from Leearn Checkmates on the 3rd/6th Outer File by fredthebear
WHAT A GAME!!!!!!!
by chesschampion11
Match , Arosa SUI 1933 (Swindle)
from Favorite Games from (1917-1943) by wanabe2000
by Morphischer
zumakal blunders archivadas2
by zumakal
Flohr resigns but could easily win! (See Kibitz at the bottom)
from Random Stuff by GoodKnight

home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC