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Garry Kasparov vs Viktor Korchnoi
ct(1/2) (1983)  ·  Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation. Petrosian Attack (E12)  ·  0-1
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Dec-14-03  ZztoP: Left me scratching my head.. 24.Qe3 (?), 35.Rxa4 (??), 37.RH7 and 44.Kb3. What was he thinking? I guess Kasparov was playing for a draw from the onset and ended up loosing.
Oct-24-04  alexandrovm: this game, the only win of Korchnoi over Kasparov (in this database) is worth looking at. Nice game
May-01-05
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  Karpova: <Shadout Mapes: Another case of a great attacking player being destroyed by Korchnoi. He certainly has some sort of gift against aggressive players.>

Kasparov: 19 wins
Korchnoi: 1 win

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May-10-05  lentil: apparently, the game score has been corrected to 44. Kxb2 as suggested
Oct-21-05  Brown: It is often said that Kasparov was not the same player as Tal. The former's combinations and aggressive intentions are backed by rigorous calculation at the board, whereas Tal flew on the carpet of his own prodigious intuition.

Korchnoi against attacking players is a "show me" type, taking material and trusting his defensive and endgames skills would see him through. Kasparov is one of the few who showed Korchnoi what a disciplined attacker can do.

Oct-02-06  Robyn Hode: Interesting comments about this game in an early Kasparov book, The Test of Time.
Oct-30-06  MadBishop: Nicely done by Korchnoi. Baiting Kasparov into commital lines before delivering the final blow with some inspiring chess!
Dec-20-06  argishti: Karpova: <Shadout Mapes: Another case of a great attacking player being destroyed by Korchnoi. He certainly has some sort of gift against aggressive players.> Kasparov: 19 wins
Korchnoi: 1 win
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haha, i like that!

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Nov-08-07  outsider: karpova> korchnoi was born in 1931. kasparov was NOT. if kasparov comes back to play some more chess, let us see if he gets 1/5 of korchnoy's achievements at the same age. but no, he's going to attack and mate other kings...
Nov-08-07  pacelli: A younger Korchnoi (say the 1974 Korchnoi) would've beaten Kasparov in 1983.
Nov-13-07  arnaud1959: I remembered this game, especially Korchnoi's 0-0 instead of recapturing the pawn and I tried to find it. Nothing easier with Internet/Chessgames! At that time people had started doubting about Kasparov's ability to become a challenger but later, with some convicting wins he showed that he had deserved that title.
Jul-16-08  Helios727: Are all the 1983 games between these two part of their candidates match (excluding the blitz games of course)?
Jul-16-08  Amulet: <argishti: Karpova: <Shadout Mapes: Another case of a great attacking player being destroyed by Korchnoi. He certainly has some sort of gift against aggressive players.> Kasparov: 19 wins Korchnoi: 1 win
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haha, i like that!

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Huh!
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Oct-28-08  Xeroxx: No further comment.
Oct-16-09  birthtimes: Kasparov would likely win the game aftel 21. Ne5! Rd8 22. Qh4 Rd5 23. Ng4 Rxb5 24. Rad1 Bd5 25. c4 Qxc4 26. Rxd5 exd5 27. Qd8+ Kg7 28. Qf6+ Kf8 29. Re1 Qe4 30. Qh8+ Ke7 31. Rxe4+ dxe4 32. h4 ...
Oct-23-10  jerseybob: birthtimes: I'm not totally convinced by your 21.Ne5 analysis. Is that a line that one of the GMs recommended? In your analysis, the BN and BQR never get developed. 21..Nc6 seems better to me. If 22.Qd7, Rac8, and though white seems to have pressure, I don't see any win.
Jan-08-11  chukcha96: <birthtimes> 25.c4? Rf5! 26.Nh6+ Kg7 27.Nxf5 exf5
Aug-04-11  DrMAL: <pacelli: A younger Korchnoi (say the 1974 Korchnoi) would've beaten Kasparov in 1983.> Of course, LMAO. Fact is, this was the one game Korchnoi ever beat Kasparov (out of 45, including a simul when Kasparov drew as a boy).

Even here, the endgame was probably a draw if Kasparov had played 47.Kd3 or 47.Kd4 or 47.gxf4 he simply made a mistake.

Aug-09-11
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  Eggman: <<Kasparov: 19 wins Korchnoi: 1 win
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Age at which Korchnoi first played Kasparov: 51. That's 3 years older than Kasparov is now, and Kasparov is already 6 years into retirement. So I think we can cut Korchnoi some slack.

Dec-07-11  Robeson: "Even here, the endgame was probably a draw if Kasparov had played 47.Kd3 or 47.Kd4 or 47.gxf4 he simply made a mistake."

Why would an eventual two pawn down rook and pawn ending be a draw?

Dec-17-12  leka: Kasparov played 21. knight g5????? The Botvinnik school student Kasparov should know put your knight in the center.Every player in the would have played 21.Knight e5!!! a winning move.i believeFischer played his knight g5 twice against Kholmov in 1965 and against Korchnoi in blitz in 1970.
Feb-08-13  vinidivici: Well, well, we see the young Kasparov which at that time still with a bit clumsy, awkward and cautious style. There are 3 options for move 21 for white...The gist is black bishop threatening to take the f-knight, so the problem, is it better to move the knight or protect with the queen...

The choice are 21.Ng5/Ne5/Qe3.....???

Noted that Kasparov had spent the 16 first moves over than 2 hours, so for him to chose 21.Ng5 is a remarkable and brave move.....BUT the WEAKEST. Just we have seen he lost the match.

For my POV, i myself had i been in the match, i would have chosen the most passive move...21.Qe3. And this move is better than Ng5. When my partner gave me the position years ago i chose Qe3 because the specified time control. In that training session, i lost to my opponent...after 21.Qe3 Bxf3 22.Qxf3 Na6 23.Bxa6? (at that time i preferred to simplify the position) Rxa6 24.Rfd1 Ra4...and many moves later i lost the match due to very active blacks pieces and the fact that i just had little time for the match.

But actually the strongest move is 21.Ne5!, Yes it would be lose a piece (bishop), but the the attacking knight and queen would surely lead to a draw.

main
21.Ne5! Rd8
22.Qh4! Rd5
23.Ng4! Rxb5 (no worries!!)
24.Rad1! (threatening Rd8) Rd5 (if 24...Bd5 25.c4)
25.Nf6 Kf8 (25...Kg7 26.Ne8+)
26.Qxh7 Rxd1
27.Rxd1...this position is DRAW 27...Rxa3
28.Qh8+ Ke7
29.Ng8+ ... perpetual check...draw

If 26...Nd7 27.Nxd5 exd5 28.Qh8+ Ke7 29.Rfe1+ Kd6 30.Qh4 b5 31.Qe7+ Kc6 32.Qxf7...1-0 white up 2 pawns and a rook for 2 minors but with overwhelming attack.

from the main
if 24...Nc6 25.Nc6+ Kg7 26.Rd7!! Qxd7 (queen must take if not it would be mate after some moves) 27.Nxd7...1-0

the conclusion is
21.Ne5! is the best defense...this would likely draw if nobody make a mistake.

21.Qe3!? is the second best defense...its passive but solid but white has to be careful with each moves because it permits black mobility throughout the match.

21.Ng5?! is Kasparov choice, its the weakest and harder to defense. Its also has some chances to draw. But white position wosened from the beginning.

Feb-09-13  vinidivici: And these are the comments from both players about 21.Ng5

Korchnoi: "Kasparov strays from the correct path."

Kasparov gave his own move 1 question mark (?):
"Having missed this possibility, White completely hands over the initiative to his opponent. The choice of this incorrect route for the knight fully justifies Black's avoidance of complications three move earlier (18...Bg7)"

Kasparov is right 18...Bg7 is weaker than 18...Rd8!.

Feb-09-13
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  perfidious: < vinidivici: Well, well, we see the young Kasparov which at that time still with a bit clumsy, awkward and cautious style....>

Here are two games from Kasparov played three years before this match-I've no doubt his opponents thought his play anything but 'clumsy, awkward and cautious' after getting blasted off the board.

Of course, you know better.

Kasparov vs Marjanovic, 1980

Kasparov vs G Ligterink, 1980

Feb-09-13  vinidivici: <perf>

I have to peek my English again a bit i think.
<cautious> is not a right word for the young Kaspy...i admit that. But maybe a bit reckless and hope for the complication almost every time.

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