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Tigran Vartanovich Petrosian vs Petrovsky
"Love Triangle" (game of the day Mar-26-13)
Leningrad (Russia) (1946)  ·  Bogo-Indian Defense: Nimzowitsch Variation (E11)  ·  1-0
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Mar-26-13  ounos: Amazing. Without knowing this game, playing the moves casually, for some reason I stopped after 17. ...f6, wondered what would Petrosian play. Exchange? Retreat? Exchange? Retreat?

Let's see what he did.

Bam.

That's why he was Petrosian and I'm a nobody

Mar-26-13
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  Abdel Irada: <Phony Benoni: My guess is that the "pun" refers to the White's pawn structure after <21.b4>>

Pretty good "guess," I'd say. :-D

But I see it as more of a "flying wedge" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying...).

Mar-26-13  morfishine: The mother of all pawn rollers

<Abdel Irada> Interesting note on the 'flying wedge'; I knew its connection to American football, but not its military origin

Mar-26-13
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  Abdel Irada: Either way, I'm sure that after this game, Petrovsky would like to see the tactic banned.
Mar-26-13  King Sacrificer: Check Capablanca vs K Treybal, 1929 to see the triangle reversed.
Mar-26-13  goodevans: <Triangle> - yeah, I get that, but in the words of Tina Turner, "What's <Love> Got to Do with It"?
Mar-26-13  Ratt Boy: <WhiteRook48: why not ...axb5?> I'm figuring 28.♘xb5, cxb5 29.♕xb7, with three for the piece and a ♖ penetrating to the 7th in a hurry. That would likely have been better than the quick resignation of the game, but it really seems that Tigran knew what he was doing.
Mar-26-13
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  Travis Bickle: Wow, Petrosian puts black in a vacuum!
Mar-26-13
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  Abdel Irada: <King Sacrificer: Check Capablanca vs K Treybal, 1929 to see the triangle reversed.>

Worth noting in both cases was White's enormous spatial advantage.

In one game, Black's forces are split, in the other outflanked, but both times the winner is he who has more room to maneuver.

Mar-26-13  blue wave: After <18.exd5>


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Black might have done better to play <18...cxd5>.

Perhaps play may have then continued <19.Nd3 Nc6> giving this position.


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But still - Petrosian is clearly winning even with this play by black.

Beautiful game by Petrosian.

Mar-26-13  jackpawn: I just love some of Petrosian's games. Often I see lines he plays, but I reject them too soon. Guess that's why he was a world champion and I'm a borderline expert.
Mar-26-13  King Sacrificer: I'm following this site for two years now and i watched many games, got information about many grandmasters. After everything , Petrosian is the player who impressed me most.

How can one be so cautious and can sacrifice pieces like this at the same time? Petrosian clearly had a different understanding of chess. I wonder what he would do against nowadays' players. Would computer era let such an original player survive on the board?

Mar-26-13
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  RookFile: Sure. I think Kramnik is a close approximation, and he, like Petrosian, was a worthy world champion who successfully defended his title.
Mar-26-13
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  playground player: <morfishine> Hannibal tried to use a "flying wedge" of mercenary infantry to break the Roman line at the Battle of Zama (along with elephants on the flanks), but Scipio Africanus didn't allow this tactic time enough to succeed. The regular Carthaginian infantry, which was supposed to follow up the mercenaries, never got a chance to engage. The Roman/Numidian cavalry on the wings crumpled Hannibal's flanks and the mercenaries turned and ran--right into the Carthaginians.

It was a good plan defeated by a better one--something that happens in chess fairly often.

Mar-26-13
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  kevin86: check at move 21 to 23-and see the Great Leningrad Pyramid!
Mar-26-13
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  fm avari viraf: The same year I was born but little did I know that one P was thrashing the other P. Anyway, a good game!
Mar-26-13
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  PinnedPiece: <goodevans: <Triangle> - yeah, I get that, but in the words of Tina Turner, "What's <Love> Got to Do with It"?>

Not much, but I love that final diamond with the knight sparkling at the toe.

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Mar-26-13  Edeltalent: <Whitehat1963: How on earth do you manage to keep all your pawns for 27(!) moves?> Here's Tigran himself, beating this mark - with Black, against Spassky, in a match for the World Championship no less: Spassky vs Petrosian, 1966
Mar-26-13  goodevans: <Whitehat1963: How on earth do you manage to keep all your pawns for 27(!) moves?>

You may like to take a look at R Nuber vs R Keckeisen, 1994

Mar-26-13  morfishine: <playground player> Very interesting! I am a history lover and just gobble this stuff up for breakfast; The old campaigns and battles were fascinating: Cannae and Alesia come to mind as well as the wide ranging maneuvers of Spartacus
Mar-27-13  EdZelli: King Sacrificer and Edeltalent: Let's not forget the fascinating 'King Walks' by Tigran. The latest generation of the players don't have the distictive styles like Tal and Tigran. R T Cardoso vs Petrosian, 1975
Fischer vs Petrosian, 1959
Fischer vs Petrosian, 1959
Petrosian vs Unzicker, 1960
Apr-29-13  sorokahdeen: EDzelli

But can players nowadays *afford* to have "personalities"?

One of the key characteristics of chess over time has always been the relative scarcity of really strong chess-players and a constantly-changing understanding of the game itself.

Before Steinitz, High-end chess was a game played between men with the leisure necessary to devote themselves to the game and devote a lot of time playing a game that was a matter of hack-and-slash calculation, with almost no understanding of structure and position. Then Morphy and Steinitz come around. There are still massive attacks but fewer evergreen games, players start to develop defensive technique. People stop accepting every gambit pawn thrown their way.

The first world war gives the world trench warfare and the hypermoderns come about and chessgames become wars of maneuver with people seeking breakthroughs in closed positions. Nimzowitsch, by no means the world's greatest player, elucidates a set of positional principles, filling a hole that could (and probably *should*) have been filled by Alekhine, Capablanca, Lasker...

With the level of understanding had by the end of the second world war, the stage is set for an explosion in chess. A potential great chess-player no longer has to "invent the wheel", part of his ability can be the result of study and the Soviet Union, trying to prove the value of its socialism teaches chess the way the Boy Scouts teach woodcraft as Botvinnik and others world-wide are working on the problem of how to make a computer play chess.

Now, you have everything in chess that we have: economies providing children with leisure, online databases of millions of games, and computer programs that are strong enough to work out and test deep continuations in opening lines.

Now, it seems that chess games are more and more a contest not of personalities, but of greater and greater efficiencies in applying the principles of chess that have come down to us from earlier generations and periods in history and with the approach that successful prosecution of a chess game makes necessary, there seems to be less and less of the "wiggle-room" that allows personality to shine through across the board.

If this is right, then it is also unfortunate, because the games of great players of the past are delightful. Petrosian was often bound by a long-strings of draws but his wins were often just as much works of art as the attacks of Tal, Fischer and Kasparov.

Personally, I hope this whole idea is wrong. I hope for more Petrosians and Karpovs and people who can find jaw-dropping approaches to unsound sacrificial attacks on the kingside, but in a world full of computers, where players can view openings theory as the statistical result of playing any variation, it seems less likely than you would wish.

Apr-29-13
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  RookFile: Well, you can start with the question as to whether folks can afford to play chess for a living. For 99.9 percent of the people, the answer is: No.
May-13-13  Edeltalent: <EdZelli> Cool examples. Let me add another famous game to this collection: Kasparov vs Petrosian, 1981
Jun-29-14  sorokahdeen: @Edzell

Well-written and cogent analysis.

Bravo!

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