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|Mar-26-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: There may well be some rook exchanges on the open c- or d-files eventually. If that happens, I suspect this may be over with a draw offer from one of the players after the 30 move requirement.|
|Mar-26-18|| ||technical win: Illuminati paid for all draws today. You're living in the matrix.|
|Mar-26-18|| ||morfishine: <Count Wedgemore> A number of games have been drawn in less than 30 games, so I'm not sure what requirement you are referring to|
|Mar-26-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: <morfishine> The players are not allowed to make draw offers until move 30. But there have been, as you say, several games that have lasted shorter than that. Those have been drawn by threefold repetition.|
|Mar-26-18|| ||BOSTER: e4 is nice move to give more space for white king.|
|Mar-26-18|| ||morfishine: Surely, any of the other 3 games must be more interesting than this one|
<Count Wedgemore> Thanks!
|Mar-26-18|| ||offramp: <chancho: If Wesley wins this, it will be like this clip:
Karjakin is in the chair in this clip:
|Mar-26-18|| ||rogge: May as well watch paint dry.|
|Mar-26-18|| ||boz: Caruan-Aronian getting interesting. Maybe we'll see that next.|
|Mar-26-18|| ||offramp: <technical win: Illuminati paid for all draws today. You're living in the matrix.>|
We would prefer Karjakin to win.
|Mar-26-18|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi whiteshark:
"Rest day recipes, me thinks."
Possible. Though sometimes GM's hold onto TN's for years before they get a chance to play them. (someone will mention the fabled 7 year wait by Marshall.)
But according to here the first time Wes So had this position OTB
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was when he was Black v Mamedyarov in round 4. He could have looked at Nf3 and Qa5+ and cooked up the b4 idea.
Pity Karjakin did not go for Qe5. the Bishop sac looked like good fun. I knew what happening then.
(BTW I saw it before Svidler & co. I know someone here is patched into them because they mentioned Svidler said this was drawish. They never mentioned the Bishop sac. It's obvious them two are looking at C.G. to see what I have to say...Hi Peter and the other guy. )
Now we are looking at a Rook ending....please C.G. go to another game, Rooks endings make me ill. I break out in spots and bark like a dog.
|Mar-26-18|| ||offramp: A 4-rook ending with symmetrical pawns? Faites-moi une faveur, mec!|
|Mar-26-18|| ||Sally Simpson: Hmmm......mildly interesting.
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Neither player wants to swap on c8 or c1 so we will get pass the buck moves. Maybe one of them will be zuggered.
OOPS...the spots are appearing.
|Mar-26-18|| ||Ulhumbrus: <offramp: ... Faites-moi une faveur, mec!> Under the Bing automatic translator this comes out as < Do me a favor, man!> Here is a link: https://www.bing.com/Translator|
|Mar-26-18|| ||Marmot PFL: Thought that 9 Nf3 has been considered a drawish line since the 40s Bronstein vs Boleslavsky, 1948 and white has to risk 9 cd5 if he wants to win. Kasparov vs Kiril D Georgiev, 1988|
Characteristically So chooses the quiet option.
|Mar-26-18|| ||chancho: And so a draw it is.|
|Mar-26-18|| ||whiteshark: User: zzzzzzzz|
|Mar-26-18|| ||Ulhumbrus: On 38 Kg5 axb4 39 Rb5 Black's rook looks immobilized but fortunately for Black he may not need the pawn. On 38 Kg5 Rxb4 39 Rxa5 Rb6 may be a technical draw|
|Mar-26-18|| ||AylerKupp: <BOSTER> It is not difficult imagine that So beat Karjakin in style. Sometimes this happen. Why? To support Caruana.>|
That's a joke, right? There is not a great amount of "love" between So and Caruana (or Nakamura, to name the other top American), at least not according to Caruana. Respect, yes. But these are all professionals who make their living at chess and have to look after themselves first.
Beating Karjakin? Yes, definitely possible. But if he does this it will be because he wants to improve his tournament score and hopefully win a higher prize, not to help Caruana. At any rate, since his two first round losses So has, correctly in my opinion, played steady and solid chess to regain his confidence, without taking many risks. And this current game with Karjakin is typical of that, early simplification leading to an equal endgame with a symmetrical pawn formation. Sure, So could win this but I think that a draw is the most likely outcome. And so it has come to pass.
|Mar-26-18|| ||AylerKupp: <<devere> Pal Benko is remembered most for giving up his spot in the 1970 Interzonal to allow Bobby Fischer to play. If Wesley So wins this game he will be remembered for it, whatever else he accomplishes in the future.>|
When did you turn into a <So>bot? https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uplo...
|Mar-26-18|| ||AylerKupp: <<Count Wedgemore> I'm no expert on the Nimzo, but it's strange if 12.b4 is a novelty. Seems a rather natural move in the position.>|
Just because a move seems like a natural choice it doesn't mean that it has been played before and therefore qualifies as a TN. In this case it seems that it is, I couldn't find that position in a database. But in that case the real TN is 10...Qxc5 (another seemingly natural move in the position), the only move I could find in that position was 10....Nxd2 (which seems like an equally natural move).
|Mar-26-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: <Sally Simpson: Hmmm......mildly interesting. >|
A bit of an exaggeration.
|Mar-26-18|| ||whiteshark: Exaggeration is the inseparable companion of greatness.|
|Mar-26-18|| ||RookFile: This game is a little different than Bobby Fischer whipping out the Benoni and playing a crazy ...Nh5 when already down 2-0 against Spassky. Karjakin makes a draw, but now faces a must win game next time.|
|Mar-26-18|| ||PJs Studio: I would think So would want to shred Karjakin for Caruanaís benefit. This opening didnít look all that aggressive. Or is Karjakin just too careful with Black to allow So any chances?|
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