| European Team Championship (2015) |
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The 20th European Team Championship took place in Laugardalshöll arena, Reykjavik, Iceland, 13-22 November 2015, as a 9-round Swiss System tournament. Rest day: 18 November. Time control: 90 minutes for the first 40 moves, 30 more minutes for the rest of the game, with 30 seconds added per move from move 1. Prize fund: 20,000 euros, with 5,000 euros to the winning team. Tournament directors: Gunnar Bjornsson and ECU president Zurab Azmaiparashvili. Chief arbiter: Omar Salama. Number of games played: 648. Russia (Svidler, Grischuk, Tomashevsky, Nepomniachtchi, Jakovenko) won with 15/18 match points (+6 =3 -0), ahead of Armenia (2nd), Hungary (3rd) and France (4th) with 13/18. Official site: https://web.archive.org/web/2015112...
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Year | Event/Locale | Opening |
| 1. A Beliavsky vs Radjabov |
| ½-½ | 29 | 2015 | European Team Championship | D85 Grunfeld |
| 2. Vachier-Lagrave vs N Grandelius |
| ½-½ | 27 | 2015 | European Team Championship | C97 Ruy Lopez, Closed, Chigorin |
| 3. J Westerberg vs Tkachiev |
 | ½-½ | 16 | 2015 | European Team Championship | C54 Giuoco Piano |
| 4. L'Ami vs Hjartarson |
| 1-0 | 30 | 2015 | European Team Championship | E32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical |
| 5. M Marin vs Kryvoruchko |
| ½-½ | 36 | 2015 | European Team Championship | A14 English |
| 6. L Schandorff vs Hracek |
| ½-½ | 30 | 2015 | European Team Championship | E17 Queen's Indian |
| 7. T Kantans vs S Nyysti |
| 0-1 | 19 | 2015 | European Team Championship | C73 Ruy Lopez, Modern Steinitz Defense |
| 8. D Solak vs Svidler |
| ½-½ | 31 | 2015 | European Team Championship | C68 Ruy Lopez, Exchange |
| 9. Tomashevsky vs A Ipatov |
| 1-0 | 34 | 2015 | European Team Championship | D52 Queen's Gambit Declined |
| 10. M Yilmaz vs Nepomniachtchi |
| ½-½ | 45 | 2015 | European Team Championship | D85 Grunfeld |
| 11. Ivanchuk vs Lupulescu |
 | 1-0 | 45 | 2015 | European Team Championship | D37 Queen's Gambit Declined |
| 12. M Parligras vs Areshchenko |
| ½-½ | 26 | 2015 | European Team Championship | D85 Grunfeld |
| 13. Naiditsch vs L Lenic |
| 1-0 | 29 | 2015 | European Team Championship | C78 Ruy Lopez |
| 14. J Borisek vs R Mamedov |
| ½-½ | 41 | 2015 | European Team Championship | B31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation |
| 15. R Edouard vs T Hillarp Persson |
| 1-0 | 33 | 2015 | European Team Championship | A67 Benoni, Taimanov Variation |
| 16. D Dvirnyy vs Short |
| ½-½ | 40 | 2015 | European Team Championship | E15 Queen's Indian |
| 17. Aronian vs H Stefansson |
| 1-0 | 39 | 2015 | European Team Championship | A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto |
| 18. Rapport vs D Svetushkin |
| 1-0 | 34 | 2015 | European Team Championship | A06 Reti Opening |
| 19. F Berkes vs V Iovcov |
| ½-½ | 33 | 2015 | European Team Championship | A04 Reti Opening |
| 20. Wojtaszek vs M Ragger |
| 0-1 | 44 | 2015 | European Team Championship | E60 King's Indian Defense |
| 21. D Shengelia vs Duda |
| ½-½ | 44 | 2015 | European Team Championship | D14 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav, Exchange Variation |
| 22. G Gajewski vs R Kreisl |
| 1-0 | 52 | 2015 | European Team Championship | A48 King's Indian |
| 23. H Olafsson vs Giri |
| 0-1 | 38 | 2015 | European Team Championship | D92 Grunfeld, 5.Bf4 |
| 24. J Arnason vs Van Wely |
| 0-1 | 34 | 2015 | European Team Championship | B84 Sicilian, Scheveningen |
| 25. Tiviakov vs Petursson |
| ½-½ | 34 | 2015 | European Team Championship | B70 Sicilian, Dragon Variation |
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Nov-29-15
 | | alexmagnus: <With the average age of top players being higher back then> The average age of top players was lower in the 50s or 60s. It was from late 60s to early 80s that it was higher - due to the very vacuum I mentioned. |
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| Nov-29-15 | | Everett: <But then, he NEVER went below 4° (Curacao 1962), and after 1965 his "worst" result was 2nd at Santa Monica (Piatigorsky Cup), and then he won ALL the tournaments and matches he played between 1966- 1972.> He finished pretty low at Souss '67, one of the rare moments during Fischer's later career that he didn't pick his spots wisely. Fischer looks remarkably consistent, but that is likely because he took time off, even entire cycles, if he wasn't up for the grind. This ability to rest was not an option for most of his competitors... |
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Nov-29-15
 | | perfidious: <alex> It was due in part to WWII and its attendant horrors, but was also attributable to the fact that of those eventual top players born in the early fifties (excluding, of course, Karpov), none made themselves a force to be reckoned with in candidates cycles till 1979 (Adorjan, after drawing a playoff with Ribli)--while Timman was already a top GM, he failed at that level till finally qualifying in 1985, when the field was enlarged. The first time the young turks asserted themselves in force was in the 1982 interzonals, with two of six qualifiers being from the old guard (Smyslov and Portisch). |
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Nov-29-15
 | | Sally Simpson: Vlastimil Hort born 1944.
Vlastimil Hort
Played in the candidates 1997 (lost to Spassky). Played Fischer 6 times - 2 losses, 4 draws. |
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| Nov-30-15 | | Al2009: <alexmagnus>
Your list based on age difference is ridiculous.
So, in your opinion a chess player who is 5-10-15-20 years older than another is someway unable to compete, as someone affected by Alzheimer disease, or similar. How ignorant you are is proved by the fact that Botvinnik defeated Tal in the 1961 world chess championship, when Tal was 25 yo, and Botvinnik was already 50 yo. Some argue that Tal had a kidney disease, but that's another evidence that you can find a 50 year old player in good health and shape, and a younger player who is sick, so age difference is not the only parameter. In the 1978 world chess championship, Korchnoi (47 year old) was able to recover and win 3 games out of 4, from game 28 to game 31, reaching a 5:5 score against Karpov (26 year old), who was - after game 27 - sure to easily win, being 3 points ahead. Then Karpov won the 32nd and last game, where he was lucky to play with white color, but surely it was a poor performance by a much younger player as Karpov, who evidenced that a much older player as Korchnoi had much "stamina" and energies than him, in many moments of their match. Moreover, Kasparov won his first Russian Championship in 2004, when he was already 41 yo, and he defeated 4 younger players: Svidler (13 years younger), Dreev (6 years younger), Timofeev (22 years younger), Bareev (3 years younger). As far as I know Kasparov played two rapid games against Carlsen, in 2004, and his score was 1.5:0.5, not so bad for an "old" player who was playing against a boy who was 27 years younger. It seems to me you're confusing chess with boxe or 100 metres race, it is better you clarify your ideas. Any competent chess players know very well that age difference between two players is not so important, at least within a range of 20-25 years of age difference. Finally, the only reason why Magnus Carlsen never wrote a chess book is that he is not good with words and writing, and he does not care a (censored) about chess players, and he is not interested at all in advertising chess, he just thinks about himself, that's all. Thus, I have to amend my all-time ranking, because rating and quality of games is NOT the only parameter to evaluate a really GREAT player. In this respect, Carlsen contribution to chess is very modest, and he deserves to be put much BEHIND great players of the past, such as Tal, Botvinnik, Alekhine, Lasker, Steinitz, Morphy, who really contributed a lot to chess development. Carlsen = plastics + silicon chips |
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| Nov-30-15 | | Al2009: <Everett>
<He finished pretty low at Souss '67> ah ah ah, what are you saying????
Please, dont' try to falsify the history!
Fischer was WINNING and LEADING at Sousse 1967 Interzonal, with a great score of 8.5 out of 10 (+7 =3), and with his nearest challenger (Larsen, who had already played 2 games more!) at 8/12. Then he resigned because he had a disagreement with the organizers and referees (who wanted him playing 6 games in 6 days without a rest, having already and illegally punished him with a game loss for forfeit against Gipslis, because Fischer refused to play on Saturday, as his religious day of rest, and as in the previous agreements). So the truth is that Fischer was WINNING also at Sousse izt, because in the 10 games he played he was much more AHEAD than his competitors. |
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Nov-30-15
| | alexmagnus: <Al2009> I didn't say older players cannot compete, don't twist my words. What I said is that due to the lack of players of his generation the sheer number of his competitors was smaller. It's like if today we still had Kramnik, Anand, Topalov, Ivanchuk, Gelfand and Aronian around (as we do), but had no Karjakin, Caruana, Giri, Nepo, both Wangs, Nakamura, Mamedyarov, Radjabov, Tomashevsky, Andreikin, Ding, Li etc.... |
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| Nov-30-15 | | nok: Remains to be seen if Tomashevsky, Andreikin or the Wangs are better remembered than Gheorghiu, for example. |
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Nov-30-15
 | | Troller: <Any competent chess players know very well that age difference between two players is not so important, at least within a range of 20-25 years of age difference.> So which are the players aged 65+ today who can compete with Anand and Gelfand? Oh, and by the way, Carlsen is 24 - I am not so familiar with Fischer either, please enlighten me which books Fischer had written at that age? |
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Nov-30-15
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Al2009,
I agree with 99% of your post regarding age etc...but not sure if we can judge so called 'greatness' with what a player contributes to Chess. Here I'd have no player at all but the army of nameless individuals who give up their spare time, unpaid' to organise local events and run chess leagues. These chaps get a polite handclap at the end of a tournament and that is it. Regarding the game and raising it's profile then nothing will top Fischer exploits in 1972. As for books, Carlsen is a child prodigy, gifted. How can he explain a natural gift? This was the same with Capablanca. Others are much better at noting up his games than he ever was. The best books are by the ungifted workers. Those who studied and honed their craft into a skill. (Alekhine, Tarrasch, Tartakower, Nimzovitch are just a few from the Capablanca era). ---
Hi Troller,
"...Carlsen is 24 - I am not so familiar with Fischer either, please enlighten me which books Fischer had written at that age." Obviously a gag but I had better get in before someone thinks you are serious and living up to your nickname. It's very dangerous doing jokes on this site. You are liable to attract more flak than a WWII bomber caught in a dozen searchlights. Fischer was 26 in 1969 when a book called:
'My 60 Memorable Games'. was published. (he had written the bulk of it by 1966 but stopped publication because Fischer feared it gave away too many secrets. The last game is 1967 when Fischer was 24.) |
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| Nov-30-15 | | Clemens Scheitz: Sally, it seems like you consider Alekhine, Tarrasch, Tartakower and Nimzovitch as "ungifted". Surely you don't mean that , do you? |
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Nov-30-15
| | alexmagnus: Out of interest I looked which effect on Carlsen's peak distances to #2 and #10 it would have if players born between 1985 and 1995, except for Carlsen himself, magically disappeared from all rating lists. The effect is smaller than I thought.
Carlsen's peak distance to #10 would be 142 (May 2015; to remind you, his actual peak is 123 in March of 2014). His peak distance to #2 would remain unchanged at all - the same 74 in October 2013. Wei Yi would enter top 10 in October 2015 (on the current list he would be #13). |
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| Nov-30-15 | | Everett: <Al2009: <Everett> <He finished pretty low at Souss '67> ah ah ah, what are you saying????
Please, dont' try to falsify the history! > I'm not falsifying history. He quit because he couldn't handle it. He also had multiple rest days, more than anyone else in the tournament at the time, which is his own issue. He saw he wasn't going to have any more rest days, be slammed with back to back games, likely play any adjournments on the same days as other games, etc. He painted himself into a corner and cracked just thinking about it. He cracked in '61 vs Reshevsky. He vastly underperformed at Curacao '62. He skipped approx. <two years> of his prime sitting out, for which everyone here loves to give him credit for as number one. He had on great run, from '70-'72. Otherwise, he gained his great results in relatively weak competitions, as stated above. <alexmagnus: <Fischer discussion> Also, if we judge by the list on Chessmetrics (where he ideed won everything since 1966, though some tournaments have no complete results) - most of those tournaments were quite pale by modern standards, with Fischer being the only top 10 (sometimes even the only top 100) player. Only two or three of them included more than one other top 10 player.> So Fischer picked his spots, likely better than anyone, took rest days while others didn't, and it blew up in his face at Sousse. Fischer was a great player, no doubt, but his resiliency is lacking compared to Karpov, Kasparov, Lasker, Capablanca, Alekhine, Korchnoi, Keres and others. |
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| Nov-30-15 | | SimonWebbsTiger: there were lots of people at this event and none were zombies and called Fischer. Typical insane gibberish being posted at cg.com.
Want to talk Fischer, go to his page! Don't spam and destroy this page with off topic stuff. |
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Nov-30-15
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Clemens Scheitz,
They were 'ungifted' as far as being a child prodigy goes. They all had to work at their game, study hard. Suffer some severe defeats in their early days. Alekhine worked the hardest and reaped the to top prize, the World Championship. I assume you have his two books. Exceptional writing. But if you can, get your hands on the 'Unknown Alekhine' by Reinfeld. Here you see the raw unpolished Alekhine, very imaginative but reckless. Some superb games (quite a few Alekhine losses) but if shown these games and told one day he would beat Capablanca in a world championship match you would be very doubtful. Magnus may put pen to paper, it could be an uncredited joint effort Like Bronstein and Vainstein (Zurich 1953) or to certain extent Fischer's M60MG's and Evans. (Evans does the into's but his prose and writing style are sprinkled throughout that book. Fischer chose the games, supplied the background and anecdotes and analysis - Evans tidied it all up into a coherent package.) Like many others here I've sat in on analysis with GM's. Some are brilliant at explaining things, (Paul Motwani for example) others when questioned why they played a particular move just shrug their shoulders and say 'it feels right'. |
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| Nov-30-15 | | AzingaBonzer: <I've seen dozens of "computer based" rankings. Depending on your favoutite player, I can find a study backing up <anyone>.> Mikhail Tal. Go. |
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| Dec-01-15 | | pinoy king: Carlsen is not gifted or hard working. He is pampered. |
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| Dec-01-15 | | Al2009: <Sally Simpson>
Hi Sally,
Before "My 60 Memorable Games" Fischer wrote also:
"Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess" with Stuart Margulies, and Don Mosenferdel
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/... As you can see book's first edition was 1st January 1966, when Fischer was just 22 year old. With reference to Capablanca, he wrote a famous book too, after he defeated Lasker in 1921: "Chess Fundamentals"
http://www.amazon.com/Chess-Fundame... So, I don't think it is so important whether a famous player is "gifted" or "ungifted", to evaluate his willingness to write chess books. For instance, Karpov is surely a "gifted" player, his chess style is "unique", and he wrote a lot of books. However, I don't like at all Karpov's way to analyze and comment his own games.
It seems as if his challenger - according to his comments - is always playing the best moves, and then ...WOW! the "marvellous" move by Anatoly comes as a thunderbolt and the game is over. This seems to me a dishonest way to analyze, Bobby Fischer, for instance was ALWAYS looking for the "losing move" by his competitors, ALWAYS showing where they could play better and draw. And the same is with Kasparov.
Karpov would like to show that his competitors are BOUND to lose with him, according to his analysis...because he doesn't like to disclose all his analysis. |
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| Dec-01-15 | | Al2009: <Everett>
Sorry, things at Sousse interzonal went in a very different way... Fischer's game with Geller was postponed too (and Fischer complained, because this was not necessary, and Geller did not show a reason for this postponment), along with the one with Kortchnoi (that was postponed for Fischer's religious rest on Saturdays) So, Fischer was right in complaining with the organizers, because he had to play 6 games in 6 day, with no rest day, and also with adjournments after 40 moves to be played in the same day. Moreover, Fischer's level of games at Sousse was evaluated as superior even by Russian commentators, such as Vasiukov, so why are you saying that Sousse izt was badly played by Fischer? |
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| Dec-01-15 | | Al2009: <alexmagnus>
So, in today's world ranking, we have 3 players(!) who are 2nd (Topalov), 3rd (Anand) and 4th (Kramnik) and whose age is 40 or more: Topalov = 40, Anand = 45 and Kramnik = 40. Moreover, a few years ago (2012) Gelfand was playing (and drawing after the classical games!) the World Chess Championship with Anand, when he was 44 year old. So,your argument about age makes no sense, at least for players below 50. It is not true that there weren't young players when Fischer was playing in the '70. Mecking was just 18 year old at Palma de Mallorca 1970 izt, and was really outplayed by Fischer. But also Huebner, who was just 22 year old, and tied as second at Palma izt, 3.5 points behind Bobby, was defeated by the "old" Tigran Petrosian at Sevilla's Candidates match. |
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Dec-01-15
| | alexmagnus: Mecking was too young. Note, I said "within five years", in both directions. Mecking is born even later than Karpov, and, age-wise, Karpov is to Fischer what Wei Yi is to Carlsen. |
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Dec-01-15
| | alexmagnus: As for your first argument - once more, I didn't say old players cannot compete. I said lack of players of own age lowers the number of competitors, thereby making one looking more dominant. Though Fischer was still more dominant than MC would be if all players within five years of him suddenly vanished (see above, peak distances to #2/#10 would at 74/142, compared to Fischer's 125/160). |
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Dec-01-15
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Al2009,
I thought we were discussing a players 'greatness' and his contribution to chess. I was answering your comment that Carlsen's contribution to chess is very modest. He may contribute a classic in the M60MG's mould but I would not be surprised is he had a co-author. He himself admits he's lazy. But staying on books:
"For instance, Karpov is surely a "gifted" player, his chess style is "unique", and he wrote a lot of books." Karpov's name is one the cover but did he actually write them? 'Miniatures from the World Champions' was the work of the 'gifted' Eugene Gik. Karpov's name is on the cover. ""Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess" with Stuart Margulies, and Don Mosenferdel. Bobby gave his name, wrote an introduction to the book and nothing more. It's far too soon to judge Carlsen's contribution (don't forget his chess app - I've not got it because I have a 12 year Nokia that cannot download apps - it's a phone and nothing more.) |
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Dec-01-15
 | | keypusher: <Al2009> <anyone else who cares> Top players are noticeably younger than they were in Fischer's time. Here's the top 10 on chessmetrics at for October 1972 <#1 Bobby Fischer 2870 29y7m
#2 Boris Spassky 2752 35y9m
#3 Lev Polugaevsky 2746 37y11m
#4 Mikhail Tal 2746 35y11m
#5 Anatoly Karpov 2743 21y5m
#6 Tigran Petrosian 2741 43y4m
#7 Leonid Stein 2741 37y11m
#8 Viktor Korchnoi 2738 41y7m
#9 Lajos Portisch 2736 35y6m
#10 Paul Keres 2724 56y9m>
Average age 37. (I ignored months.) Two players in their 20s, three players over 40, top age 56. Here's a link to 2700+
http://www.2700chess.com/?per-page=...
Currently, the top ten average age is 30. Six players in their 20s, three 40 or above, top age 45. |
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| Dec-01-15 | | Everett: <AI2009>
This is the true Fischer, not your made-up Fischer.
<"The 7th Interzonal took place in Sousse (Tunisia) from October 15 to November 16, 1967. Four of the six forerunners had been organized by Sweden. For the first time a FIDE-Tournament took place in Africa, a remarkable propagandistic success for the FIDE. Out of the 66 member nations only two are from Africa, Tunisia and South Africa. They are integrated into the West European Zone. It is not the fault of the organizers, who have really given their best, that Sousse received great publicity, not only because of the chess deeds, but above all because of the "Fischer case". Robert Fischer, US Champion and one of the best players of our times, but unfortunately bare of sporting spirit and diplomatic ability, opposed himself wholly unjustified to the tournament regulations, which had been bent especially for Fischer and Reshevsky to meet their religious feelings. It seems obvious that such far-reaching concessions - Friday no play, Saturday begin only after 7 p.m., no play on four special Jewish holidays - anticipates also adaptations by the players. Reshevsky honoured the concessions made, Fischer did not. Not even when the secretary of the US Embassy in Tunis reminded him to think himself a representative of the Unites States. He answered: I am here as a representative of Robert Fischer! After Fischer did not appear three times for play, he had to be eliminated. As sad and regrettable the elimination of Fischer is - maybe he would have become the first non-Russian World Champion since 1948 - it is obvious, that no player, not even the World Champion himself, can put himself above the regulations of the FIDE. Fischer barred himself from becoming World Champion for five years, the title fight after the present cycle will take place in 1972." (p. 5)> Nice job ignoring the rest of my post as well. How could you not? Like Fischer, his fanboys like to cherry pick their reality. |
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