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Sep-07-02
 | | Sneaky: Engineer, author, professor, philosopher, sociologist, and chess player. http://www.eimv.si/milan_eng.html |
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| Feb-21-03 | | kostich in time: It is reported that at the closing banquet at Nottingham, Vidmar said of Botvinnik"I wish I could accomplish what he has in Chess' Botvinniks reply was "I wish I could accomplish what he has In Electrical Engineering."
BTW, the record for Vidmars games with Euwe is inaccurate.It leaves out a good win Euwe had against Vidmar at Groningen in 1946. Its also inaccurate in another way.The "win" by Vidmar against Euwe at Zandvort in 1936 is actually the game Vidmar LOST at Nottingham in the same year..Chesslab makes the same error..only Chess Database is correct. |
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| Apr-01-04 | | nikolaas: <kostich in time> How do you know YOU are correct? If two important sites like chesslab and chessgames make the same 'error' I wonder or it IS a error. |
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| Nov-24-04 | | kostich in time: Sorry folks, check the original record, Vidmar didnt even play in Zandvort, 1936. Euwes win over Vidmar waseven pretty famous at the time as "Euwes revenge" for Carlsbad 1929 |
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| Nov-25-04 | | kostich in time: Alekhine wrote the following about Vidmar in an essay for the New york Times in 1929;
"all told, he is no great lion in the realm of chess, but he has won many games by virtue of his apparent harmlessness".
Many of Vidmars rivals of the tens and twenties liked to make disparaging comments about him, but they feared him none the less.his good friend Nimzozich, in his bizarre booklet on Carlsbad 1929,sounded like a classical music critic commenting on a gifted Country singer and spoke of Vidmars chess style as containing "many flashes of peasant humor"-and Vidmar was one of his best friends(one of the few humans who could claim that honor) |
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Jul-12-05
 | | chancho: Capablanca said this about Vidmar."I am lucky that Vidmar is torn between engineering and chess,otherwise my title would be seriously threatened".This comment is kind of funny, because I had read somewhere that he actually regarded Vidmar as his "meat",whenever they played. |
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| Sep-17-05 | | Koster: Timman wrote that he never played through a game by Vidmar, at least not any that he won, and that the Vidmar Memorial was an undeserved tribute to a not very talented player. |
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Sep-17-05
 | | TheAlchemist: Did Timman really say that? If he did, he's a jerk. I find that comment deeply insulting. What if someone said something like that about Euwe? |
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| Sep-17-05 | | aw1988: Euwe was far stronger than Vidmar.
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Sep-17-05
| | TheAlchemist: <aw1988> The point is that both are the best players their country has ever produced and the first to play at such a high level. As a Slovenian I am very proud of Vidmar, and such statements really make me angry. |
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| Sep-17-05 | | aw1988: Sure, Timman's comment is a little over the top. I mentioned Euwe as a sideline. |
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| Sep-17-05 | | paladin at large: <chancho>Capablanca was invariably complimentary and respectful of Vidmar, as far as I know. I would be interested in the details of your quote, if you find them. In 1914, Capa wrote: "Vidmar is less well known (in reference to the participants of the Mannheim tournament) but his style is of greater merit than that of practically all the others. He is aggressive and is to be feared when he undertakes an attack. His general tactics are good and as he is young he has to play with brio." In 1922 and 1928, Capa referred to him as one of the "foremost chess players in the world." In 1929, Capa assessed the relative strength of the top twelve masters and put them in three tiers as follows (in alphabetical order): 1. Alekhine, Capablanca, Lasker
2. Bogoljubow, Nimzowitsch, Vidmar
3. Euwe, Marshall, Réti, Rubnstein, Spielmann, Tartakower |
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| Sep-18-05 | | Resignation Trap: Jan Timman made that quip about Vidmar many years ago, when he was quite young and foolish. I'm sure that he has acquired much wisdom since then. I distinctly remember that line, and it had a profound effect on me. At that time, I was writing magazine articles on great players of the past (Schlechter, Spielmann, Capablanca, Rubinstein, etc.)and that comment by Timman provided me with just the right incentive to write about Vidmar as well. Please remember that there were no databases then, only books, and no book about Vidmar in english! The only book I could find about Vidmar was one of a series of biographies by Dr. Slavko Petrovic - in serbo-croat (an excellent series, by the way, with 100 games by each player). This was chess - so the language barrier was no big deal. I normally chose five games of each player for my articles, but I had to sift through many games in order to find their "best" or "most characteristic" games. Needless to say, my rating increased dramatically during this period, and I also learned a lot about world history and languages in the process! |
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Sep-19-05
 | | keypusher: That's a nice story, <resignation trap>. Vidmar seems to have gotten little respect. In Tartakower & Du Mont's 500 Master Games of Chess, there are only seven Vidmar games, and six are losses! But according to Chessmetrics he was pretty consistently in the top 10 between 1910 and 1935. |
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Nov-28-05
 | | Ron: Years before the Internet and having access to a large amunt of chess games, I once said something disparaging about Vidmar to some chess playing friends. All of them strongly and sincerely disagreed with me at that time. Perhaps I was influenced by the few games I saw where Vidmar would lose to a Nimzowitsch or an Alekhine. But I am glad to say that I was wrong then. |
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| Mar-23-06 | | Whitehat1963: An underrated player who left many a masterpiece in his wake, defeating many superstars along the way. |
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| Apr-10-06 | | brankat: For more than 20 years amongst the top 7-8 masters in the world. It is a pitty he didn't/couldn't spend more time working on/playing chess. |
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| Apr-11-06 | | brankat: I have compiled some statistics on Dr.Vidmar's record against the leading 25 players, between, roughly 1905-1935. These are the years when he was in his prime. The info is based on the data from CG.com database, so it may not be 100% complete, but it does give a general idea about his success. Vidmar - Alekhine +2 -4 =11
Vidmar - Bernstein 3 0 1
Vidmar - Bogoljubov 5 1 3
Vidmar - Burn 2 1 0
Vidmar - Capablanca 0 3 6
Vidmar - Chigorin 2 0 0
Vidmar - Colle 4 0 1
Vidmar - Duras 8 3 2
Vidmar - Gruenfeld 1 0 3
Vidmar - Kmoch 1 0 1
Vidmar - Kostic 4 1 1
Vidmar - Dr.Lasker 0 1 1
Vidmar - Marco 2 0 0
Vidmar - Mieses 4 2 1
Vidmar - Maroczy 0 2 9
Vidmar - Marshall 3 3 6
Vidmar - Reti 2 2 1
Vidmar - Rubinstein 3 4 6
Vidmar - Schlechter 2 3 10
Vidmar - Spielmann 4 4 10
Vidmar - Dr.Tarrasch 1 1 1
Vidmar - Tartakover 6 4 13
Vidmar - Treybal 2 1 1
Vidmar - Yates 4 1 1
TOTAL....194 games 64 wins 41 losses 89 draws = 55.9% Quite an admirable rate of success against the best. Again, a pitty Dr.Vidmar didn't commit himself more to the pursuit of his Chess career. |
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Apr-11-06
| | keypusher: ...and against Nimzowitsch +4-2=8 |
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| Apr-11-06 | | brankat: I realised late last night I had forgotten about Nimzo, of all players.
So, I was going to add it here today, but You beat me to it :) Congrats! |
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| Apr-11-06 | | technical draw: Very impresive resume. I must download his games and check them out. 5-1-3 against Boguljobov, that's cool. |
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| Apr-11-06 | | CapablancaFan: Hmmm no wins against Capa. Interesting. Seems that Mr.Vidmar just did'nt know how to handle this man. |
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| Apr-11-06 | | brankat: Very few did:) |
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| Apr-12-06 | | Dr.Fritz: Great find, brankat! |
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Apr-12-06
| | keypusher: <brankat> You did all the work. Very impressive (by you and Vidmar both). |
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