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| Oct-31-04 | | Eatman: <acirce> Just curious what was the tournament situation, which caused your short draw?
I have found that in European tournaments master level players are quicker to offer short draws in the middle of tournament. Never did see that happen in US tournaments.(not talking about GMs, who are fond of quick draws everywhere) |
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| Oct-31-04 | | acirce: Yes, short draws are perfectly common on this level, and then I'm talking also VERY short draws like this one - which are more seldom seen on super-GM level - maybe it is a different chess culture in USA, but you see it all the time here. In this case I was tired after having played an exhausting weekend tournament in another part of the country just the days before (this was a Monday). When my higher rated opponent offered the draw (he was Black) I didn't think much before accepting. I don't remember his reason but apparently he didn't feel like playing either. :) |
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| Oct-31-04 | | azaris: Speaking of short draws, here is my shortest draw ever: [White "millrain"]
[Black "azaris"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Bd3 Bxd3 5. Qxd3 e6 6. Nf3 Be7 7. Nc3 Nd7 8. O-O c5 9. Qb5 c4 10. Qxb7 Rb8 11. Qxa7 Ra8 12. Qb7 Rb8 13. Qc6 Rc8 14. Qb5 Rb8 1/2-1/2 |
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| Nov-09-04 | | Strategic Joker: my shortest draw was :)
[White "Kenny"]
[Black "Jaime"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
1.♙e4 1..♙e5 2.♘f3 2..♘c6 3.♗b5 3..♙a6 4.♗a4 4..♙b5 5.♗b3 |
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| Nov-10-04 | | skeet: This guy is awesome.
<JGD: Yes, I have always liked Andersson and adopt the Reti System frequently. Andersson was a master at retreating his pieces to form interesting fortresses.>
Can anyone recommend some games with examples of this? |
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| Dec-01-04 | | tex: Andersson is the man if you are interested in learning how to play hedgehog formations. |
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Dec-21-04
 | | Benzol: Ulf Andersson
Born 27th June 1951 in Vasteras
Awarded the IM title in 1970 and the GM title in 1972.
He was Swedish Champion in 1969. |
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| Dec-26-04 | | mannyrook: i will like to know who was the stronger player fisher or andersson in their prime i think fisher was better if he keep playing better than gasparrow but not better than capablanca thanks |
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| Jan-25-05 | | aw1988: The shortest draw I can recall was Me vs Simon Damien... or Demien... or maybe it was Demanen... something along those lines.. in 1966, an open tournament of some kind; he was better than me, although very tired, so the game ended after 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 1/2. |
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| Feb-08-05 | | Backward Development: the shortest draw i've ever played was...
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.nf3 nf6 4.nc3 Be7 5.Bf4 1/2-1/2
last round of a three-day tournament. i was white.
i think it's funny how Ulf's page is being dedicated to showing all of our shortest draws... |
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| Feb-14-05 | | Abaduba: I think Ulf is much better known for long draws- He didn't have any problem playing out long games, seeing as he seems to have more patience than anyone this side of Fritz- his high draw % comes from refusing to take virtually any risks and relying on one of the finest endgame techniques in the game's history. Problem is, no amount of technique can make a drawn endgame into a win. (barring blunders, of course) |
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Feb-14-05
 | | WTHarvey: Here are some crucial positions from Ulf's games not given here. http://www.wtharvey.com/andu.html |
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| Feb-14-05 | | Sonofabishop84: My shortest tournament draw was 22 moves... people don't want to play for a draw even in technically drawn positions when they'er are few hundered ELO higher :-( |
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| Feb-14-05 | | aw1988: A swedish heartthrob is player of the day! |
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Feb-14-05
 | | chessgames.com: WTHarvey, http://www.wtharvey.com/ excellent site, I hope you don't mind if we borrow some of these ideas for puzzles of the day sometime soon. |
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Feb-14-05
 | | keypusher: Acirce posted some interesting annotations to Andersson's draw with Kasparov in Moscow 1981. Here's another Andersson classic: Ulf Andersson vs Browne, 1983 |
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| Feb-14-05 | | Helloween: I love Ulf.
"Andersson's chess style consists of playing chess backwards! - Bill Dunphy |
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| Feb-14-05 | | noone2: I'm a bit surprised that no one is mentioning end games when speaking of this positional master. I would think UA's style is Capa like - and that he would be recognized as an endgame virtuoso. |
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| Feb-14-05 | | acirce: <I love Ulf.> I love you too. ;-) <keypusher> We talked about Timman's recent "Power Chess with Pieces" before and I mentioned that game. I compiled a game collection with the games featured in that book -- Game Collection: Jan Timman: Power Chess with Pieces Planning to quote from some of all the fine annotation, if someone is especially curious to see what Timman says about a specific game or moment in a game let me know. |
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Feb-14-05
 | | IMlday: I had a very long endgame at the 1978 Olympiad in Buenos Aires and the last spectators standing were Ulf and Yuri Averbach. Ulf just loved endgames. Neither he nor the Swedish team had a game going--he just loved endgames, the simpler the better. So going to watch the 10:00 AM adjournments was fun for him.
We met first at Wijk aan Zee, 1970, where he raked. Last time was 1996 Yerevan Olympiad where he enthused over his golden retreiver back in Sweden. |
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| Feb-14-05 | | darook: I think Ulf Andersson is the real King of Draw!.
He has 63.5% draws!.
Carl Schlechter only has about 46% (BTW, 46% is by no means a "Draw King" many GMs these days has about 40%-45% draws).
Even the prophylactic Tigran Petrosian has only 54.5% Draws.
So I salute to King Ulf the 1st. |
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| Feb-14-05 | | noone2: <IMlday> interesting...and it makes sense to me. I remember a fantastic ending - Black to play (if anyone knows whose game this is I'd be interested....)
Black: g7,g6,c5,c4,a7,Rd8,Bb6,Kh7
White: g2,h2,b2,c2,Nc3,Rb7,Kg1 |
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Feb-15-05
| | keypusher: <darook> you also have to look at players in the context of their times. Back when Schlecter was playing drawing half your games was really unusual. Pillsbury, an admittedly aggressive contemporary, drew less than a quarter of his games according to the database. In more modern times, Fischer's 26.8% and Larsen's 31.5% draw percentages are extremely low. (Not sure what percentage of Fischer's games in the DB are blitz, simuls etc. which would tend to drive his drawing percentage down.) Andersson's draw percentage is certainly high, but he is playing in an era where, as you point out, GMs routinely draw nearly half their games. |
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| Feb-15-05 | | darook: Thanks <keypusher> for your comments. I guess I missed the big picture as you pointed out. |
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| Mar-01-05 | | Abaduba: Anderssen is still a drawing machine adjusting for modern times. As Karpov said after Bad Lauterberg 1977, "As before, he rarely loses ... but [he] has [also] completely stopped winning"
It's not that anderssen takes an unusual amount of short draws; rather, his unique style (I wouldn't say he plays similarly to any other player; <Helloween> "backwards" is a perfect description) relies on lots of simplification, which means that he gets into a lot of drawish and difficult-to-win endings (most of which he plays out anyway). He plays quiet chess with great fighting spirit! |
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