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Apr-03-21
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<Tabanus> Thank you very much! |
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Apr-05-21
 | | MissScarlett: Finally worked out how to resolve the Persistent Capital problem in the Event field, e.g. Casual Game. It can be done by amending the TID for that game, which can be accessed through the main editors' page. You can find the relevant TID via a correction slip for the offending game. Hope that's clear! |
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Apr-05-21
 | | Stonehenge: You can also find the relevant TID in the Administrative Game Editor below any game. Then you can change all games (with the same TID) in one go. |
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Apr-06-21
 | | stevemcd87: <Tab>, the games have been processed.
<Jess>, we've updated the PGN Upload Utility page to include [Source] in the PGN example.
<MissS>, I was able to find the PGN for Morphy vs M Conway, 1859 and upload it again. I will need some time to look into the Kibitzing, Analysis, etc...
Be sure to use the 'Delete Game' button with extreme caution.We are currently working on a software update that has been taking a majority of my time.
Sorry for the delayed response. |
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Apr-06-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Stephen> Excellent, thank you! Have you guys come up with the "Null Move" capability yet? Or is that something that's in the hands of <The Olga Guy>? I saw <MissScarlett> asking about this a few times. I have a crazy odds game with missing pieces and two null moves in it that I'd like to upload eh. |
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Apr-07-21
| | stevemcd87: <Jess>, I've update the null move game I was aware of -> A Mongredien vs Staunton, 1841 .
It seems, when we upload a null move game, I will need to manually update the eco to '000' so it will display on the page; null moves confuses the gameloader.
In the meantime, the only way to view the game will be through pgn4web.
<MissS> was able to find a brilliant solution to the odds game issue by adding a [SetUp] tag to the pgn, perhaps we can find a similar solution for null moves. |
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Apr-07-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Stephen> Thank you! So at present there is no way for anyone, including you, to upload games with null moves in them that will play in <Olga>? Would contacting the <Olga Man> about this be of any help I wonder. Has anyone considered hiring <MissScarlett> amirite. |
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Apr-08-21
| | stevemcd87: Hello <Jess>,
For odds game, we have to add the [SetUp "1"] tag to the png(credit to <MissS>) and append the "- 0 1" to the fen tag(credit to <Jess>) and, usually, need to update the eco to '000'.
For null moves, It only works on Aria and pgn4web.
We are going to put Aria live so you can use it for these type of games.
Feel free to test it out your device and report any issues, https://www.chessgames.com/perl/ari... .
NOTE: Be sure to switch your viewer to Aria.
We haven't integrated all the bells and whistles yet but can be useful for some of the games, such as null moves.
Looking forward to feedback. |
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Apr-08-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Stephen> In those cases, then would it be possible to put a notification in the game header? Something like <"This game has null moves, and can only be replayed by changing your chess viewer to Aria or pgn4web"> Second question: my chess engine can accept and read null moves, and create a pgn with null moves. So if I upload one of these null move games to chessgames.com, if I manually change my viewer to Aria or pgn4web then I could play the game from cg.com? Or is the problem that cg.com will not publish the null move game to begin with? ===========
lol it's nice to get credit for something, but scads of people had been uploading odds games at cg.com for many years using the "setup" and "0-1" tags. I found out about them some time ago by looking at pgns from some of the many thousands of odds games already in our database. So I can't take any credit. Please give my credit to <MissScarlett>. She can have that and more from me if she wants. She has been extremely helpful to me this year in chess history work. |
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Apr-08-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Stephen> also thanks so much for your expertise in helping Susan deal with various troubling issues. I appreciate the work you have been doing at cg.com, believe me. |
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Apr-08-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
I am not sure of the exact protocol for updating this game here: Allies vs Steinitz, 1896 The "Allies" are Piers Bohl, Kupfer and Ellinson. Should I first create a "new player" who is comprised of these three? Not sure how to do that so I hope somebody can let me know the preferred method in this kind of case. If I had to guess, I would create a new player with this syntax: <Piers Bohl / Kupfer / Ellinson> and then switch that player in and the Allies player out. |
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Apr-09-21
| | Stonehenge: <I would create a new player with this syntax: <Piers Bohl / Kupfer / Ellinson> and then switch that player in and the Allies player out.> That's how I would do it.
Long name: Piers Bohl / Kupfer / Ellinson or Bohl / Kupfer / Ellinson (there's only one Bohl so there cannot be confusion). Short name: Bohl / Kupfer / Ellinson.
I prefer spaces around the slash symbols. |
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Apr-09-21
| | MissScarlett: <lol it's nice to get credit for something, but scads of people had been uploading odds games at cg.com for many years using the "setup" and "0-1" tags. I found out about them some time ago by looking at pgns from some of the many thousands of odds games already in our database. So I can't take any credit. Please give my credit to <MissScarlett>.> To clarify, I think Steve's aware that I didn't invent the entire [SetUp] protocol. My only point was that the <cg> software should automatically assign a [SetUp "1"] tag where a [FEN] is present. I have a PGN viewer called ChessPad 2 which generates such a tag when copying a game, but the SCID program doesn't. If I then forget to add the [SetUp] tag before submission, the game will fail to show properly. |
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Apr-09-21
| | MissScarlett: <I saw <MissScarlett> asking about this a few times. I have a crazy odds game with missing pieces and two null moves in it that I'd like to upload eh.> Until the null move problem is sorted, why not just use the SetUp route? The PGN can always be amended in time. |
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Apr-09-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
Ok thanks you guys. It's done now. |
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Apr-09-21
| | stevemcd87: <Jess>,
We've added a message to Olga when the pgn has a null move.
A Mongredien vs Staunton, 1841
The way we spot a null move in the pgn is by looking for " -- "(must have blankspace) in the pgn.
If there are more ways of writing null moves in a pgn, please let me know, so I can write code to look for it.<Or is the problem that cg.com will not publish the null move game to begin with?>
As far as I know, you are able to upload "null move" games; it will provide a gid when uploaded.
If you see an <ERROR: Game Invalid> message on the game page, let me know, it is likely that we need to update the eco to "000" to remove that error.
You should then be able to view the game with Aria or pgn4web. We've added the ability to select Aria as a PGN viewer.
Features we still need to integrate are:
- Board Interactivity(moving pieces) for game analysis
- Flipping board
Please let me know if you run into any issues. |
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Apr-09-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Stephen>
For me, I regard this to be a serious problem:
Th Mueller When I type <Th Mueller> into the search box on the front page- not the quick bar at the top, but the full search bar- I got <Sorry, we have no names that exactly match 'TH MUELLER' in our database.> I knew he was in the database, and I knew which tournament he had competed in, so I knew where to go to find him. But what if I didn't know this? I would never have found him. I hope this does not indicate a general problem eh? Could be a disaster. |
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Apr-09-21
 | | OhioChessFan: I think it's the two letter name issue once previously brought to Daniel's attention: <Sorry, we have no names that exactly match 'SO' in our database.> |
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Apr-09-21
| | OhioChessFan: If you search "Mueller", it returns "Th Mueller" in the list of Muellers. If you search "Wesley", it returns "Wesley So" in the list of Wesleys. But search "Th" or "So" and nothing comes back. I think the two letter name issue is a serious problem. |
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Apr-09-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Ohio> Thank you- excellent information on the issue. |
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Apr-11-21
| | Stonehenge: In the Player Editor, it would be nice if the <long name> of the player is visible again. |
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Apr-12-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Stonehenge> Like this amirite: Oskar Long Einarsson. |
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Apr-12-21
| | stevemcd87: <Jess> I'll look into the '2 letter player' issue sometime this week. <Ohio> Thanks for pointing in the right direction, it seems you hit the nail on the head. <Stone> The Player editor has been fixed.
We made a hefty update for the editor page last Friday, let me know if you spot any other irregularities.
The main goal was to solve the 'blank edit form' issue.
It looks as if nobody received a 'blank edit form' since Friday, so it seems the update was a success... for the most part.
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Apr-12-21
| | Stonehenge: To quote <Short>: ha ha bloody ha
Nigel Short (kibitz #5999) |
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Apr-12-21
| | Stonehenge: <I'll look into the '2 letter player' issue sometime this week.> Also, and this has been brought up at least 130 times, can you look into certain stop words? Searching for From, Can and Down returns no results. Martin Severin From was not an insignificant player and Emre Can is a grandmaster. |
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