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Mar-28-22
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
Well that didn't last long.
Using the protocol above, I now resurrected the 4th game on the list, and something struck me: M Saltzberg vs K Burger, 1962 This workaround has a serious flaw- the game is now published but has an inaccurate- false, in fact -- ECO listing in the game header. Would it not be better to fix the site hardware? Isn't that the real, and in some ways, only problem here? Daniel set up the code to automatically enter ECO codes to every upload, which is why he- and later Annie- told us NOT to include ECO codes in pgn submissions. But the code is not working properly. Isn't the most important task here to find out WHY some games are being "ghosted"- find out why there appears to be some malformation in the original cg. source code that causes the ghosting? And after identifying the *actual* problem, then you could fix that problem? Rigging the code so that no pgn is ever rejected because of an ECO issue is better than what we have at this moment, but that too is only a workaround. We need a permanent structural coding repair, not just a workaround, though workarounds are certainly useful in their place. For example I will use the workaround <Stephen> gifted us in order to go through this whole list of ghosted games and repair them (Other editors- please feel free to join me... ), but we definitely need the "real" repair. |
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Mar-28-22
| | jessicafischerqueen: Now these games are repaired:
N Vasileisky vs B Zagorsky, 1916
S Lyman vs R Byrne, 1962
Lombardy vs J F Leon, 1962
M Saltzberg vs K Burger, 1962
M Garber vs Paul Fisher, 1962
A Medina Garcia vs L Gilden, 1962
...and it struck me- 5 of them are from the same event -63rd US Open, and have an identical error- a missing parenthesis at the end of the source tag. Clearly this was copy/ pasted for the entire tournament, which is how the error replicated. My point- while we are still in "workaround" mode, would it not be simpler to find out why the editor page processor did not reject these games at the gate, irrespective of any ECO issues? I have tried to process many pgns which were rejected at the gate, and after re-checking the pgn I found out I had overlooked a syntax error. Usually the processor even tells me what kind of error it was. In these cases, I simply fixed the error and re-processed, and the games were duly published. So why did our processing page not catch the missing <"]"> error in all of 5 of those <63rd US Opens> I repaired so far? That error should have been avoided at the gate, as it almost always is, in my experience. The game should never have been published in the first place. So the gate keeper function is not working properly. Sometimes I wonder if ANY of the coding is working properly at this website. |
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Mar-28-22
 | | stevemcd87: <Jess> Let me handle the ghost games.
I'd like to jot down different issues to look out for. Thanks for the help. |
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Mar-28-22
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Stephen>
Thank you- I will do as you say.
In the case of
E Inarkiev vs Vitiugov, 2008
E Inarkiev vs Vitiugov, 2008,
which are duplicates, I have in fact deleted both of them while trying to delete one of them... I hope you can recover the score eh...
If not, I might be able to find it on Rusbase. I am pretty sure this game will be there eh. |
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Mar-28-22
| | stevemcd87: They seem to have been a dupe of this game -> E Inarkiev vs Vitiugov, 2008 |
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Mar-28-22
| | jessicafischerqueen:
Good Heavens... no wonder the two others objected to being "fixed"... Good work on this <Stephen>- I suspect that your recent workload has been daunting. I am sure I'm not the only one who appreciates your effort, and your success in solving our problems. |
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| Mar-29-22 | | Z free or die: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN6... |
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| Apr-02-22 | | Z free or die: Hi <Stephan> thought I'd drop this here... Over on player's <Bang> forum I post tactical problems - but I now see a few positions (ie. diagrams) aren't properly showing up in the kibitzing section, e.g. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/fen... . |
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Apr-02-22
 | | MissScarlett: Steve, could you remove <1242891|Tarrasch|K Eckart> from my <GOTD> Selection List. As before, I was marking it for deletion, not promotion. |
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Apr-04-22
| | MissScarlett: <Steve, could you remove <1242891|Tarrasch|K Eckart> from my <GOTD> Selection List. As before, I was marking it for deletion, not promotion.> Flash, I Love You! But We Only Have Fourteen Hours Left to Save the Earth! |
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Apr-05-22
| | stevemcd87: <Z> Can you provide a link to <player's <Bang> forum>, please?
The more examples I have, the better.
Editors:
I just uploaded the games for European Individual Championship (2022) and noticed about 37 new players were made and about 8 games are still missing.
I will be reviewing the 37 new players tomorrow, to ensure they shouldn't be merged with any existing players... just a heads up. |
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Apr-05-22
 | | Stonehenge: <I will be reviewing the 37 new players tomorrow> I have been doing stuff like that for the last ten years. Leave it to me. |
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Apr-07-22
| | stevemcd87: Editors, mainly <Stone>:
I've created a feature for us to review the new events that are uploaded in the future. https://www.chessgames.com/nodejs/g...
We can now select an event from the dropdown to see the new players that were created, games that were rejected and the ability to jot down notes.
I'm hoping this will help us work together, especially for the larger events.
I would think it takes hours to spot the missing games and new players for such a large event without this feature.
I'd like to also add the ability to mark a player or rejected game as "Reviewed". It should help us keep track of what was done and what needs to be done.
Feel free to let me know of any improvements we can make to this feature.I'm hoping to get the LiveGamesV2 working soon.
Thanks for all the help. |
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Apr-08-22
| | Stonehenge: Thanks.
Can you can rid of the correction slip with <Player - PPP0QQQPPP1QQQ>? |
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| Apr-09-22 | | whiteshark: Hi Steve,
Could you please check E Can vs Bluebaum, 2022
I can play only <1 e4 e6> while the game (stored pgn) lasted 63 moves.
TiA |
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Apr-09-22
| | Stonehenge: Sst, Steve is asleep. I have fixed it. |
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| Apr-09-22 | | whiteshark: [whispering] Tks <Stonehenge> |
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Apr-12-22
 | | Tabanus: For the World Championship Candidates (2007), the Update Event Crosstable does not work. List of players jumps back as if by itself to standings table after a while. |
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Apr-13-22
| | Stonehenge: For some reason I cannot get these two games into the DB, not even after deleting supposed duplicates. [Event "Leningrad-Moscow"]
[Site "Leningrad URS"]
[Date "1959.05.10"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[White "Kolotiy, Natalya"]
[Black "Esterkina, Rebekka"]
[ECO "B32"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "116"]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Qc7 5.Nb5 Qb8 6.c4 a6 7.Nd4
Nf6 8.Nc3 Nxe4 9.Nxc6 Nxc3 10.Nxb8 Nxd1 11.Nxa6 bxa6 12.Kxd1
Bb7 13.f3 e6 14.Be3 d5 15.cxd5 Bxd5 16.Bd3 Bd6 17.b3 O-O 18.Ke2
a5 19.Be4 Bxe4 20.fxe4 a4 21.Rad1 Be5 22.Bc5 Rfc8 23.b4 a3 24.Rd3
g6 25.h3 Bb2 26.Rhd1 Bg7 27.Rd7 Bf8 28.Rf1 Bxc5 29.bxc5 f5 30.Rb1
Rd8 31.Rxd8+ Rxd8 32.Rb3 Rc8 33.Rc3 Kf7 34.Ke3 e5 35.g3 Ke6 36.h4
Ra8 37.c6 Rc8 38.c7 Kd6 39.Rxa3 Rxc7 40.Rd3+ Ke6 41.Kf3 Ra7 42.a3
Ra4 43.exf5+ gxf5 44.Kf2 h5 45.Rb3 Kd5 46.Rf3 Ke6 47.Rb3 Kd5
48.Re3 Kd4 49.Rf3 e4 50.Rxf5 Rxa3 51.Rxh5 Ra2+ 52.Kg1 e3 53.Rh8
Ke4 54.Re8+ Kd3 55.Rd8+ Ke4 56.Re8+ Kf3 57.Rf8+ Kxg3 58.h5 1/2-1/2 [Event "Leningrad-Moscow"]
[Site "Leningrad URS"]
[Date "1959.05.09"]
[EventDate "1959.05.09"]
[Round "1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Esterkina, Rebekka"]
[Black "Kolotiy, Natalya"]
[ECO "C75"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "116"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 d6 5.c3 Bd7 6.d4 Nge7 7.O-O
Ng6 8.g3 b5 9.Bc2 Bg4 10.Be3 Be7 11.Nbd2 h5 12.h4 Bxh4 13.gxh4
Nxh4 14.Bd3 Qf6 15.Be2 Bh3 16.Nxh4 Qxh4 17.Bf3 exd4 18.cxd4 Nxd4
19.Bxd4 Rh6 20.Bg2 Rg6 21.Nf3 Rxg2+ 22.Kh1 Qg4 23.Ne1 Qxe4 24.Qf3
Rg4 25.Rg1 Qxf3+ 26.Nxf3 f6 27.Rxg4 Bxg4 28.Kg2 Bxf3+ 29.Kxf3
Kf7 30.Rh1 Re8 31.b4 Rc8 32.Rc1 c6 33.Bb6 Ke6 34.Rg1 g5 35.Rh1
h4 36.Kg4 c5 37.bxc5 dxc5 38.Re1+ Kf7 39.Kf5 Rc6 40.Bd8 Rd6 41.Bc7
Rd5+ 42.Kg4 Rd2 43.f4 c4 44.fxg5 fxg5 45.Kxg5 h3 46.Ba5 Rxa2
47.Bb4 Rg2+ 48.Kf5 h2 49.Re7+ Kg8 50.Re8+ Kh7 51.Bc3 Rg7 52.Bxg7
h1=Q 53.Rh8+ Kxg7 54.Rxh1 c3 55.Ke4 b4 56.Kd3 Kf6 57.Rb1 a5 58.Ra1 1-0 |
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Apr-15-22
| | stevemcd87: N Kolotiy vs R Esterkina, 1959
[bad chessgames.com link]
It seems they were being associated with a deleted version of Natalya Kolotiy . |
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| Apr-15-22 | | Z free or die: [RE: <<CG> pids - (a good thing™)>] A quick comment on game submissions -
As the above exposes, there is always room for uncertainty when using plain names to identify players. Especially on the quickly shifting sands of <CG>. In another forum I stressed the importance of using pid's to identify players - e.g. when their names might change over time, etc. But I neglected to mention the importance of using <CG> pid's for game submissions. In fact, <Daniel> and I worked on incorporating a new feature into <CG> to allow the use of <CG> pid's, and I believe, <FIDE> pid's as well. In fact, I believe a hierarchy of importance was established, from highest to lowest: <CG> pid -> <FIDE> pid -> player name I would encourage all major (and minor) contributors to <CG> to start submitting games with the <CG> pid as much as possible. And I would caution <CG> to try to maintain the stability of player pid's even more so. . |
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Apr-15-22
| | Stonehenge: Those two games don't show up here Rebekka Esterkina or here Leningrad-Moscow (1959)/Rebekka Esterkina. |
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Apr-15-22
| | Tabanus: <Steve> Thanks for making it 32 games! |
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| Apr-16-22 | | Z free or die: <Stonehenge: Those two games don't show up here Rebekka Esterkina or here Leningrad-Moscow (1959)/Rebekka Esterkina.> Use the pid Luke, ... let go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2w... |
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Apr-18-22
| | Stonehenge: <Number of games in database: 416> Evgeny Gleizerov. There are actually more than 2,000 games.
Something else, please see James Fraser (Frazer) (kibitz #30). |
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